Bicep Tendonitis and training split opinions

[ThatSickRip]

have you/are you pinning the bpc/tb im in that shoulder? If not get some 1/2-5/8in slin pins and get that peptide in front and mid delt around where your tendon meets the shoulder joint. I’ve read contrary testimony on it helping or not but after a labrum surgery and pt I aggravated mine again real bad just sleeping on it wrong and I’ve seen noticeable improvement at 1.5mg of both 2x/day going im

Yep, been using a sling pin for the BPC and TB; BPC going in front/mid delt, TB going subQ on the stomach.
I initially started at 1mg each AM/PM for the first week, then wk 2-3 TB 1mg PM, then wk 4-now TB EOD PM

 

[Ivan Ooze]

Yep, been using a sling pin for the BPC and TB; BPC going in front/mid delt, TB going subQ on the stomach.
I initially started at 1mg each AM/PM for the first week, then wk 2-3 TB 1mg PM, then wk 4-now TB EOD PM

Damn bubba that’s tough. Hope it heals up sooner than later

 

[cage99]

Personally, I’d up the dose of your peptides. I’ve had much better results when using 3-5mg daily of BPC157. The smaller doses do work eventually, but the higher doses make the pain reduction much faster. Anyways, just my experience.

Cage

 

[iron lifter]

Got a gnarly case of bicep tendonitis in my left should that started on 4.9. Been going to my chiro and massage therapy as well. Started high dose BPC/TB protocol (had a post on here about it).
Beginning of last week was starting to feel great, Id say 85% or so. Then did shoulders on Thursday and seemed to reaggravate/flare it up.
This was my standard split due to work and life:
M: Back, light bis
T: Chest, light tris
W: Off
Th: Shoulders, traps
Fri: Bis/tris
Sat or Sun: Legs pending family plans for the weekend

I was thinking that maybe if I did chest & shoulders on the same day, it wold be less work load and give it more time to recover. Neutral grips on most exercises have been pain free, so I try to adhere to that as much as possible currently so I can get this done with.

Thoughts? Anyone tried this before to deal with the tendonitis?

I went through this same thing and still am. I do all my pressing 1 day so i got a week to recover before i was doing chest on Monday and delts Thursday. No time to recover. keep up with physio try Shockwave therapy too. Also get your doctor to RX you diclofenac 15 percent cream and rub it into the bicep tendon post workout for 2 days after the pressing.

 

[ThatSickRip]

I went through this same thing and still am. I do all my pressing 1 day so i got a week to recover before i was doing chest on Monday and delts Thursday. No time to recover. keep up with physio try Shockwave therapy too. Also get your doctor to RX you diclofenac 15 percent cream and rub it into the bicep tendon post workout for 2 days after the pressing.

Got it. Nice to see my idea wasnt that far off of combining chest/shoulders since several replies have mentioned the same.

How long has yours been going on? Im at 2 months now, and even though its still better than it was at first, its still nagging and a pain in the ass

 

[iron lifter]

Got it. Nice to see my idea wasnt that far off of combining chest/shoulders since several replies have mentioned the same.

How long has yours been going on? Im at 2 months now, and even though its still better than it was at first, its still nagging and a pain in the ass

like 10 years been lifting 30 plus so its something that i live with now. i did get a cortisone shot a few years back that helped for 2-3 months at best.

 

[ThatSickRip]

like 10 years been lifting 30 plus so its something that i live with now. i did get a cortisone shot a few years back that helped for 2-3 months at best.

Damn, I was hoping youd say a few months and it went away

 

[booey]

When’s the last time you’ve taken time off from the gym?

 

[ThatSickRip]

When’s the last time you’ve taken time off from the gym?

It first flared up on Thursday 4.9.26 and I took the following week off, so I didnt return to the gym until 4.20.26

 

[Flex500]

Got a gnarly case of bicep tendonitis in my left should that started on 4.9. Been going to my chiro and massage therapy as well. Started high dose BPC/TB protocol (had a post on here about it).
Beginning of last week was starting to feel great, Id say 85% or so. Then did shoulders on Thursday and seemed to reaggravate/flare it up.
This was my standard split due to work and life:
M: Back, light bis
T: Chest, light tris
W: Off
Th: Shoulders, traps
Fri: Bis/tris
Sat or Sun: Legs pending family plans for the weekend

I was thinking that maybe if I did chest & shoulders on the same day, it wold be less work load and give it more time to recover. Neutral grips on most exercises have been pain free, so I try to adhere to that as much as possible currently so I can get this done with.

Thoughts? Anyone tried this before to deal with the tendonitis?

I’ve dealt with similar anterior shoulder/biceps tendon stuff, and the biggest thing for me was figuring out what was actually irritating itand not just what helped it feel better. A lot of “shoulder pain” ends up being biceps tendon irritation near the front of the shoulder. It can feel like rotator cuff/shoulder pain, and over time everything can start compensating, but the trigger may be pretty specific.

For me, the big offenders were:

1. Overhead pressing, especially locking out hard overhead. That position can narrow the space under the acromion and keep irritating the long head of the biceps tendon.

2. Supinated grips especially underhand pulldowns/rows. I love them, but they lit mine up. Neutral grips were way better and then overhand

3. Going too deep on pressing where the shoulder starts to roll forward/internal rotate at the bottom. Full ROM is great, but often this happens when you go all the way down.

4. Fast stretch to a press transitions. Touch and go pressing, fast rows, bouncing out of the bottom that quick eccentric to oncentric transition creates a lot of stress right where the tendon is irriated.

So yes, combining chest/shoulders may help if it reduces total weekly irritation, but I’d pay more attention to exercise selection and execution than the split itself. Neutral grips, controlled reps, dead stop or paused presses/rows, and avoiding the specific angles that flare it up would probably do more than just moving days around.

You can do all the therapy/peptides/recovery stuff in the world, but if you keep accidentally hitting the exact movement pattern that aggravates it, it’s going to calm down and then come right back. That was the biggest issue for me until I just cut the stuff out, changed my form, etc.

 

[Killer.7]

Has anyone tried PRP injections for tendonitis ? My shoulder is becoming unbearable and i seem to have plateaued with physiotherapy.

 

[Phoenix@241]

Got it. I had the KT in my cart on Amazon, so Ill pull the trigger on that.

Weirdly enough, bicep training doesnt bother it at the time, its always chest/shoulders that its noticeable. I do understand though that even though even if I dont "feel" it while training bis, there could still be some aggravation going on.

Maybe a good chance it's not the bicep. Possibly stemming from the front delt/bicep insertion. I had that issue, idk how your massage guy is. Have him work in the arm pit, and get under the front delt into that bicep tendon, almost trying to pull it away from the bone, and into that side delt and brachialis as well as the forearm. Painful af no doubt but helped me. Maybe try to change your training, lighten the load and adjust range of motion to target just the chest or just the shoulder, plus it's help with better muscular contraction on the long run. Maybe throw some gh in the mix.