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OLD QUA
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
Big A and anybody who know somthing about drugs half-life PLEASE HELP!
like a litel more mase!!!!!!!
I was planing to do this:
Cycle 1:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
days 1-10:
suatanon 250mg on day 1,3,5,7 and 9.
days 11-20:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 11,14 and 17.
deca durabolin 200mg on day 12,15 and18
days 21-30:
test propionate 100mg on day 21,23,25,27 and 29
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
now 2 weeks off and then this cycle:
Cycle 2:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
days 1-10:
sustanon 250 per day for 6 days.
test cypionate 250mg on day 7 and 9
days 11-15:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 12 and 14
deca durabolin 200mg on day 11,13 and 15
days 16-20:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 16,18 and 20
test propionate 200mg on day 17 and 19
oxymetholone 12,5 mg in the morning only.
days 21-30
test propionate 200mg on day 21,23,25,27 and 29
oxymetholone 25 mg per day
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
now 2 weeks off and then starting a diet cycle!
I have the drugs, but I have found out that the propionate i have is not propionate but cypionate!
it is a produkt named Testex.
the dealer said it was propionate, and the label reads: "clclopentil propionato detestosteona" but I have don some reesearchs,and I am preaty sure it is cyp.
THE PROBLEM:
I have to replace the propionate with the cyp.I like doing 30 days cycls and have only 2 weeks off,but due to the fackt that cyp is a longer lasting test then prop, I wil not be OFF in my "2 weeks off", if i just replace it :-(
cout I stop the cyp feks. 5 days before the cycle ends, and use some dianabol in thous 5 days??
I need help to due this right!
wath about the dose? I think I have to use a smaler amount off the cyp then if it was prop??
Please make me a plane!!!!!!!
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02-20-2002 07:32 AM
Hvywght
Man of Steel
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Springfield , MO
Posts: 161
Big A you need to help this cat out...
He is confusing me with all the days instead of weeks, and his language is different. i cannot understand him.
hvy
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02-20-2002 02:05 PM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
i wouldnt do any of this
you will just be wasting the drugs, and if u wanna do that, just flush them down the frkn toilet, youll get about the same effects
seems to mee that u only have small amounts of these compounds, if u wanna do a 30 day mass, if u have 5ml of each the cyp and sust, use 3ml the first shot, then do 1ml every 5 days
till its gone, the primo and deca are far too of a long acting drug to use such a short time
you sound very familliar bro, where u from???
frk
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02-20-2002 07:49 PM
Big A
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cyclopentyl propionate is cypionate.
There is no need to panic. Propionate is out in 3 days, cypionate 5 days. Just have your last shot of cypionate 5 days before the end of the cycle. And take the same amount of cypionate as of propionate, as testosterone is testosterone, you need the same dose, regardless of the ester.
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02-20-2002 07:59 PM
OLD QUA
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
Re: i wouldnt do any of this
quote:
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Originally posted by FRKNHUGE
you will just be wasting the drugs, and if u wanna do that, just flush them down the frkn toilet, youll get about the same effects
seems to mee that u only have small amounts of these compounds, if u wanna do a 30 day mass, if u have 5ml of each the cyp and sust, use 3ml the first shot, then do 1ml every 5 days
till its gone, the primo and deca are far too of a long acting drug to use such a short time
you sound very familliar bro, where u from???
frk
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I'm not wasting any drug!...for me this this is 1 heavy cycle,and extreme heavy cycle. I have never used more than 750mg per week off a test before!
my last cycle was 25mg of dianabol per day for 4 weeks,I gainet 10lbs and put 55lbs om my bench press!
so I expekt big and fast gains from this!
The Deca and primo is stoppet about 10-12 days before the end off the cycle, so I dont think most off it shout be out when I stop!
I am from Denmark!(read my location!)
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02-21-2002 09:41 PM
OLD QUA
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
quote:
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Originally posted by Big A
cyclopentyl propionate is cypionate.
There is no need to panic. Propionate is out in 3 days, cypionate 5 days. Just have your last shot of cypionate 5 days before the end of the cycle. And take the same amount of cypionate as of propionate, as testosterone is testosterone, you need the same dose, regardless of the ester.
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thank you!I thort cyp was way more long acting than prop!
now I have pease in my soul agen.
but about the ester: if you feed your body with a long acting test ewery day you wil have a greater dose buildup, then if you were doing the same thing with a short acting test.
I think that if you wer using the drug over a long time, ther wout bee a big difrent in the amount of mg you have in your blodstream! ass time goes by!
what is your opinion on this??
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02-21-2002 10:18 PM
Big A
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It depends on the length of the ester. If you inject sustanon every 3 days or so, you will end up with a much higher cncentration of the drug in time than what you have planned. Cyp or Prop, is not that bad at all.
Also, a factor in the build up is scar tissue. If you inj in scar tissue and the oil doesn't dissipate, then again that will affect you rtotal mg of the drug, as the oil sloly dissipates in time.
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
Big A and anybody who know somthing about drugs half-life PLEASE HELP!
like a litel more mase!!!!!!!
I was planing to do this:
Cycle 1:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
days 1-10:
suatanon 250mg on day 1,3,5,7 and 9.
days 11-20:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 11,14 and 17.
deca durabolin 200mg on day 12,15 and18
days 21-30:
test propionate 100mg on day 21,23,25,27 and 29
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
now 2 weeks off and then this cycle:
Cycle 2:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
days 1-10:
sustanon 250 per day for 6 days.
test cypionate 250mg on day 7 and 9
days 11-15:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 12 and 14
deca durabolin 200mg on day 11,13 and 15
days 16-20:
primobolan depot 200mg on day 16,18 and 20
test propionate 200mg on day 17 and 19
oxymetholone 12,5 mg in the morning only.
days 21-30
test propionate 200mg on day 21,23,25,27 and 29
oxymetholone 25 mg per day
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
now 2 weeks off and then starting a diet cycle!
I have the drugs, but I have found out that the propionate i have is not propionate but cypionate!
it is a produkt named Testex.
the dealer said it was propionate, and the label reads: "clclopentil propionato detestosteona" but I have don some reesearchs,and I am preaty sure it is cyp.
THE PROBLEM:
I have to replace the propionate with the cyp.I like doing 30 days cycls and have only 2 weeks off,but due to the fackt that cyp is a longer lasting test then prop, I wil not be OFF in my "2 weeks off", if i just replace it :-(
cout I stop the cyp feks. 5 days before the cycle ends, and use some dianabol in thous 5 days??
I need help to due this right!
wath about the dose? I think I have to use a smaler amount off the cyp then if it was prop??
Please make me a plane!!!!!!!
__________________
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02-20-2002 07:32 AM
Hvywght
Man of Steel
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Springfield , MO
Posts: 161
Big A you need to help this cat out...
He is confusing me with all the days instead of weeks, and his language is different. i cannot understand him.
hvy
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02-20-2002 02:05 PM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
i wouldnt do any of this
you will just be wasting the drugs, and if u wanna do that, just flush them down the frkn toilet, youll get about the same effects
seems to mee that u only have small amounts of these compounds, if u wanna do a 30 day mass, if u have 5ml of each the cyp and sust, use 3ml the first shot, then do 1ml every 5 days
till its gone, the primo and deca are far too of a long acting drug to use such a short time
you sound very familliar bro, where u from???
frk
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02-20-2002 07:49 PM
Big A
IFBB PRO / Moderator
Registered: Oct 2001
Location:
Posts: 428
cyclopentyl propionate is cypionate.
There is no need to panic. Propionate is out in 3 days, cypionate 5 days. Just have your last shot of cypionate 5 days before the end of the cycle. And take the same amount of cypionate as of propionate, as testosterone is testosterone, you need the same dose, regardless of the ester.
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02-20-2002 07:59 PM
OLD QUA
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
Re: i wouldnt do any of this
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by FRKNHUGE
you will just be wasting the drugs, and if u wanna do that, just flush them down the frkn toilet, youll get about the same effects
seems to mee that u only have small amounts of these compounds, if u wanna do a 30 day mass, if u have 5ml of each the cyp and sust, use 3ml the first shot, then do 1ml every 5 days
till its gone, the primo and deca are far too of a long acting drug to use such a short time
you sound very familliar bro, where u from???
frk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not wasting any drug!...for me this this is 1 heavy cycle,and extreme heavy cycle. I have never used more than 750mg per week off a test before!
my last cycle was 25mg of dianabol per day for 4 weeks,I gainet 10lbs and put 55lbs om my bench press!
so I expekt big and fast gains from this!
The Deca and primo is stoppet about 10-12 days before the end off the cycle, so I dont think most off it shout be out when I stop!
I am from Denmark!(read my location!)
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02-21-2002 09:41 PM
OLD QUA
future national BB-Champ
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: denmark
Posts: 36
quote:
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Originally posted by Big A
cyclopentyl propionate is cypionate.
There is no need to panic. Propionate is out in 3 days, cypionate 5 days. Just have your last shot of cypionate 5 days before the end of the cycle. And take the same amount of cypionate as of propionate, as testosterone is testosterone, you need the same dose, regardless of the ester.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
thank you!I thort cyp was way more long acting than prop!
now I have pease in my soul agen.
but about the ester: if you feed your body with a long acting test ewery day you wil have a greater dose buildup, then if you were doing the same thing with a short acting test.
I think that if you wer using the drug over a long time, ther wout bee a big difrent in the amount of mg you have in your blodstream! ass time goes by!
what is your opinion on this??
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02-21-2002 10:18 PM
Big A
IFBB PRO / Moderator
Registered: Oct 2001
Location:
Posts: 428
It depends on the length of the ester. If you inject sustanon every 3 days or so, you will end up with a much higher cncentration of the drug in time than what you have planned. Cyp or Prop, is not that bad at all.
Also, a factor in the build up is scar tissue. If you inj in scar tissue and the oil doesn't dissipate, then again that will affect you rtotal mg of the drug, as the oil sloly dissipates in time.
