BIG THANK YOU TO AL GORE!

[jamez]

Cause if it weren't for global warming I would have had to shovel 24 inches infront and in back of my house in philly, and another 6-12 inches this tuesday night into wednesday. So I'm so damn glad global warming saved me all that shoveling! Thanks AL!

you have to be pretty dumb if you think a snowstorm in winter somehow disproves GLOBAL warming...

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Interviews Scientist Bill Nye On Climate Change - 02/10/10

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

if you have to be pretty dumb if you think a snowstorm in winter somehow disproves GLOBAL warming...

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Interviews Scientist Bill Nye On Climate Change - 02/10/10

This is a joke right?

 

[jamez]

This is a joke right?

Whats a joke? because shes a "liberal" and she just shitted all over that "its snowing so theres no global warming" nonsense it's somehow a joke?

 

[minister]

you have to be pretty dumb if you think a snowstorm in winter somehow disproves GLOBAL warming...

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Interviews Scientist Bill Nye On Climate Change - 02/10/10

Oh! now I'm not a patriot because I disagree with the global warming crowd, these 2 creeps just called me ignorant and stupid because I oppose their point of view, to me it's funny, you can put a bow tie on any bozo and have him agree with you on your tv show now days. That interview proves absolutely nothing either way, Rachel Maddow is a whack job, just my humble opinion. This has turned into a very interesting thread, thanks Al Gore,LOL.

 

[jamez]

Oh! now I'm not a patriot because I disagree with the global warming crowd, these 2 creeps just called me ignorant and stupid because I oppose their point of view, to me it's funny, you can put a bow tie on any bozo and have him agree with you on your tv show now days. That interview proves absolutely nothing either way, Rachel Maddow is a whack job, just my humble opinion. This has turned into a very interesting thread, thanks Al Gore,LOL.

It would be funny if it weren't so scary.. just how dumb and easily misguided the majority of people (and espeically the right) have become.

Bill made a great point about old people. They just cant seem to grasp any new concept.. they're all "conspiracies" to hold the poor white man down... hold onto all their out of date traditions and losing touch with reality. just look at the fans of glen beck and sean hannity even right on this website.. standing up for them.. and here he is claiming a snow storm disproves global warming... can anyone really be THAT dumb?

 

[minister]

It would be funny if it weren't so scary.. just how dumb and easily misguided the majority of people (and espeically the right) have become.

Bill made a great point about old people. They just cant seem to grasp any new concept.. they're all "conspiracies" to hold the poor white man down... hold onto all their out of date traditions and losing touch with reality. just look at the fans of glen beck and sean hannity even right on this website.. standing up for them.. and here he is claiming a snow storm disproves global warming... can anyone really be THAT dumb?

It works both ways , old people like me (not that old,46) are rooted in our core believes,but I definitely like to listen to other points of view and respect those points of view, on the other hand young people now days are persuaded by the media with a lot of radical ideas, so much so that things that were considered radical a few of years ago,are the norm now. Now to assume that all of Beck's and Haninity's fans are dumb is a bit condescending, I know a lot of educated, intelligent people that listen to their shows, Are they right on with everything? of course not, but who is? As for me I lean to the right because of moral issues, the left has been morally bankrupt for a few years now, that's just one man's opinion> God bless you all.

 

[jamez]

on the other hand young people now days are persuaded by the media with a lot of radical ideas, so much so that things that were considered radical a few of years ago,are the norm now.

I guess fox news .. the most radical station on TV doesn't count?

let's see what used to be "tradition" and considered radical.... womens rights, blacks rights, beating children, etc, etc..

The right hates all progress. You disagree with all new science (big bang, evolution, climate, energy), you disagree with equality for everyone (it was blacks and women, now gays), .. it gos on and on. You claim "fiscal responsiblity" and call obama a socialist.. when it was bush who bankrupted this country, ruined its economy and started 2 unjust wars...

Now to assume that all of Beck's and Haninity's fans are dumb is a bit condescending, I know a lot of educated, intelligent people that listen to their shows, Are they right on with everything? of course not, but who is?

It's pretty sad that COMEDY shows on a daily basis show right through these clowns hypocrisy and lunacy.. and yet "educated" people still believe them.

 

[alecaf]

Here is how the EPA defines the distinction, sort of a matter of semantics really:
“The phrase 'climate change' is growing in preferred use to 'global warming' because it helps convey that there are changes in addition to rising temperatures.” **broken link removed**


Anyhow, In the earlier part of Earth's life, you used the dinosaur era, so let's say the cretaceous period, there was a lot more volcanic activity, which vented Carbon dioxide, sulfer dioxide, nitrogen, and other gasses. This atmospheric layer insulated our planet and trapped heat. It keeps heat in and keeps heat out -- some but not all obviously. This is still happening, via Co2 emissions. And the ozone layer does get punished because the gasses 'punch' through this layer to keep on rising. Our atmosphere is made up of the Troposphere, (the lowest level, it rises about 10 miles up and gets cooler as you get higher, this is where clouds are) the Stratosphere, (no more clouds except the cirro-types and the temp increases a bit, it goes up til about 30 miles and of course the ozone layer is here. Remember that ozone is just another gas, a form of oxygen) the Mesosphere, (about 50 miles up and temps go down fast as you go higher) the "prized" Ionosphere, (which is part of the thermosphere, and it starts off at 50 miles up, it is encompasses plasma and this is where we see such beautiful displays of aurora's. It goes on for hundreds of miles, with the temp increasing with altitude, and this is the level that the govt. installation H.A.A.R.P. uses to bounce microwaves off to a satellite to transmit energy -- Tesla's idea, stolen as usual) and also in the thermosphere is the Exosphere, (the last boundry before outer-space, it goes to about 800 miles and then space.) Just thought I would explain that for anyone who cares or did not already know.

But man I've heard about HAARP and everything but its just a conspiracy theory, for now. I agree with you that the capability is there and you just did a great job explaining it. The thing is we can't prove that, and science is just not open minded for a theory like that.
I think we should agree that climate change is something that happens, we have no stake in its existence, but we might have a stake in its promptness. I always try not to be radical, and even tho i completely agree with what you say and boy you do know your shit! I just think that to be fair and unbiased we should try to go by the accepted evidence we have, first.
Just to let you know tho, i believe in HAARP, I believe in JFK/RFK conspiracies, have my doubts about 911 etc. and i based this skepticism on the fact that the government has lied and kept hidden projects from the public countless times before. All I'm saying is, HAARP might just be for a different discussion, or maybe just once we can establish that climate change happens.
But man thats some fucking knowladge you have there, had to google most of those words lol.

 

[alecaf]

just to let everyone know i think Al Gore is a dougebag for politicizing such a delicate issue better left for science. He made Climate change partisan, and for the people like me, who don't believe a word that comes out of a politician, he made climate change a joke.
Its only been since a second look at the evidence and hearing REAL scientists talking about it that i realized climate change is a fact. And i think, on a totally unrelated topic... I want us to find and alternative to oil, why? because its polluting, oil is a non-renuable resource, and its only found in third world countries who we make our colonies because we are so addicted to their oil, in essence it fucks the third world for it.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Oh! now I'm not a patriot because I disagree with the global warming crowd, these 2 creeps just called me ignorant and stupid because I oppose their point of view, to me it's funny, you can put a bow tie on any bozo and have him agree with you on your tv show now days. That interview proves absolutely nothing either way, Rachel Maddow is a whack job, just my humble opinion. This has turned into a very interesting thread, thanks Al Gore,LOL.

Good points bro. Personally I was just gonna let that video speak for itself.

P.S. fox news .. the most radical station on TV.... there you have it boys and girls!

 

[jamez]

P.S. fox news .. the most radical station on TV.... there you have it boys and girls!

I suppose you think they're "fair and balanced"

After Fox News happily concluded that recent snowstorms debunk global warming theories, Stephen Colbert followed the network's example: 'It is dark outside,' he said, so 'we can only assume the sun has been destroyed.'

He continued: "It's only a matter of time before the mole people emerge from the center of the earth to enslave us in 'Forevernight.' Thanks a lot Al Gore."

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co...ebruary-10-2010/we-re-off-to-see-the-blizzard
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-10-2010/unusually-large-snowstorm

 

[ssdark1]

It would be funny if it weren't so scary.. just how dumb and easily misguided the majority of people (and espeically the right) have become.

Bill made a great point about old people. They just cant seem to grasp any new concept.. they're all "conspiracies" to hold the poor white man down... hold onto all their out of date traditions and losing touch with reality. just look at the fans of glen beck and sean hannity even right on this website.. standing up for them.. and here he is claiming a snow storm disproves global warming... can anyone really be THAT dumb?

this is the problem. you are the problem. this was merely an intelligent debate about a scientific matter and the governments reactions to it and along you come pointing fingers with this bs about the right are idiots, old people cant change their ways, its this persons fault, that groups fault. to make such blanket statements about people is just ignorant.

 

[jamez]

this is the problem. you are the problem. this was merely an intelligent debate about a scientific matter and the governments reactions to it and along you come pointing fingers with this bs about the right are idiots, old people cant change their ways, its this persons fault, that groups fault. to make such blanket statements about people is just ignorant.

Yea.. I'm the problem. When the thread starter is connecting a snow storm in winter time to al gore and global warming... makes sense.

 

[Ivan]

Nice

But man I've heard about HAARP and everything but its just a conspiracy theory, for now. I agree with you that the capability is there and you just did a great job explaining it. The thing is we can't prove that, and science is just not open minded for a theory like that.
I think we should agree that climate change is something that happens, we have no stake in its existence, but we might have a stake in its promptness. I always try not to be radical, and even tho i completely agree with what you say and boy you do know your shit! I just think that to be fair and unbiased we should try to go by the accepted evidence we have, first.
Just to let you know tho, i believe in HAARP, I believe in JFK/RFK conspiracies, have my doubts about 911 etc. and i based this skepticism on the fact that the government has lied and kept hidden projects from the public countless times before. All I'm saying is, HAARP might just be for a different discussion, or maybe just once we can establish that climate change happens.
But man thats some fucking knowladge you have there, had to google most of those words lol.

Good post bro. Yeah I got my associates in biology, (also got a bachelors but at a diff school) but took an astonomy class because I was/am fascinated with astrophysics and such. Instead of getting a health dose of Hawking, I learned a lot about atmospheres, solar radiation, gamma rays etc.

Just thought I would define what the dictionary (Websters) has for:
(In regards to politics)
Liberal(s) - tolerant, open-minded, favoring democratic reform and individual liberty, moderately progressive.

Conservative(s) - disliking or opposed to great or sudden change. Moderate, favoring private enterprise and freedom from govt control.

Communism - a social system in which property is owned by the community and each member works for the common benefit.

Socialism - a political and economic theory advocating that land, transport, natural resources, and the chief industries should be owned and managed by the govt.

I also want to point out how much I cannot stand Sarah-the-dumbass-Palin. That bitch is as dumb as they come and truly a wicked person.

 

[alecaf]

this is the problem. you are the problem. this was merely an intelligent debate about a scientific matter and the governments reactions to it and along you come pointing fingers with this bs about the right are idiots, old people cant change their ways, its this persons fault, that groups fault. to make such blanket statements about people is just ignorant.

completely agree, I tend to be more left leaning on some issues but I sure as hell will never let myself fall into misplaced partisanship. Meaning I'll never allow my politics to cloud an issue that doesn't need politics.
Yeah i disagree with the wars and would love to see some kind of healthcare reform, however climate change has nothing to do with that. And i blame Gore for making this an ideological issue.

 

[alecaf]

Good post bro. Yeah I got my associates in biology, but took an astonomy class because I was/am fascinated with astrophysics and such. Instead of getting a health dose of Hawking, I learned a lot about atmospheres, solar radiation, gamma rays etc.

Just thought I would define what the dictionary (Websters) has for:
(In regards to politics)
Liberal(s) - tolerant, open-minded, favoring democratic reform and individual liberty, moderately progressive.

Conservative(s) - disliking or opposed to great or sudden change. Moderate, favoring private enterprise and freedom from govt control.

Communism - a social system in which property is owned by the community and each member works for the common benefit.

Socialism - a political and economic theory advocating that land, transport, natural resources, and the chief industries should be owned and managed by the govt.

I also want to point out how much I cannot stand Sarah-the-dumbass-Palin. That bitch is as dumb as they come and truly a wicked person.

Yeah and its a damn shame that such uneducated people have the say in such important matters, and i blame the rest of the dumbasses who vote for her.
I really wish fatso Limbaugh and pugy Beck would read the definition to the latter two ideologies, oh wait, that will ruin all attempt to get people on their side.

 

[alecaf]

good video explaining

YouTube - Ratigan of MSNBC Destroys Glenn Beck on Climate Change

 

[ssdark1]

sarah palin is the fakest bitch ever. i cant stand to listen anything she says. i dont know whats worse anymore, watching these dumbass reality shows or politicians trying to win over whatever they perceive to be the majority. im just so sick of fake people.

 

[tl2001]

It works both ways , old people like me (not that old,46) are rooted in our core believes,but I definitely like to listen to other points of view and respect those points of view, on the other hand young people now days are persuaded by the media with a lot of radical ideas, so much so that things that were considered radical a few of years ago,are the norm now. Now to assume that all of Beck's and Haninity's fans are dumb is a bit condescending, I know a lot of educated, intelligent people that listen to their shows, Are they right on with everything? of course not, but who is? As for me I lean to the right because of moral issues, the left has been morally bankrupt for a few years now, that's just one man's opinion> God bless you all.

Discussions like climate change, evolution, germs causing disease, gravity, the earth revolving around the sun, etc... These are not points of view to be listened to and respected. These are discussions, conclusions, and theories from the scientific community. Individuals who dedicate decades of life in their fields; PhDs and professors on their subject matters, the cream of the crop of our species. I'll take that over my or your core beliefs, and to quickly dismiss something as meticulously studied as climate change is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous.

 

[pesty4077]

Wow! I guess this turned into a political debate. Miinster, no offense, I like you brother, but the right(republicans) have morals? I don't think so. Hey Ivan, Socialism, isn't that the Democrats now a days? I can't stand either party and thier crookeness When are we going to have a third party who actually gives a crap?

Oh well, getting back to the subject at hand. Dam Al Gore! It was sunny and 65 degrees today and the global warming is making it 70 tomorrow!