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[Silencer]

Liberal(s) - tolerant, open-minded, favoring democratic reform and individual liberty, moderately progressive.

That may be the definition, but liberals can be the most IN-tolerant people you will ever meet. They are tolerant and open-minded only as long as your views match theirs.

If they are tolerant, why do they abhor my life membership in the NRA? You think I'm Satan when I mention my AR15s...If I disapprove of universal healthcare, I'm called names -- ignorant, uneducated, hater of the poor, whatever. If I try to explain it financially (since I'm an MBA), I just get attacked with "statistics lie"...

Doesn't tolerance mean being able to deal with other views? The biggest issue I have is far leftists trying to force their views on others. Tolerate me, don't try to convert me.

And this is coming from someone who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative.

Libertarianism is looking more and more attractive: do what you want as long as it doesn't impinge on any body else's rights.

 

[jamez]

That may be the definition, but liberals can be the most IN-tolerant people you will ever meet. They are tolerant and open-minded only as long as your views match theirs.

If they are tolerant, why do they abhor my life membership in the NRA?

That's funny b/c im pretty "liberal" (or common sense) on a lot of issues.. and im a proud gun owner...

Doesn't tolerance mean being able to deal with other views? The biggest issue I have is far leftists trying to force their views on others. Tolerate me, don't try to convert me.

Hmm.. how about the right? Trying to force abortion to be illegal, against gay marriage.. against drugs, trying to force "Creationism" into schools and evolution out? but dont "force" your views on me? odd...

Libertarianism is looking more and more attractive: do what you want as long as it doesn't impinge on any body else's rights.

I'm by far more libertarian than anything else.. but left leaning.

 

[Ivan]

Yeah

But there is a distinction between being tolerant -- and being a total pushover. Know what I mean? And I just posted those definitions to make sure people understood what exactly these terms are 'supposed' to mean lol. Like the conservative def; I could twist that and put a spin on it and say how afraid of change they are blah blah blah -- when great men come along that bring about change, it is these ppl who destroy them (Jesus, Ghandi, Lincoln, and the church almost killed Galileo to name a few) It is a close-minded mindset that is dangerous. Be cautious by all means, but allow growth and new possibilities to flourish. It is greed and fear that some men harbor, which hurts humanity. So many great men had to censor themselves, to put a filter on, in order to avoid persecution and ill-will. This is what they mean when they say $$$ is the root of all evil. Just remember this; behind my mask there is flesh, and behind this flesh there is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof.

 

[ssdark1]

But there is a distinction between being tolerant -- and being a total pushover. Know what I mean? And I just posted those definitions to make sure people understood what exactly these terms are 'supposed' to mean lol. Like the conservative def; I could twist that and put a spin on it and say how afraid of change they are blah blah blah -- when great men come along that bring about change, it is these ppl who destroy them (Jesus, Ghandi, Lincoln, and the church almost killed Galileo to name a few) It is a close-minded mindset that is dangerous. Be cautious by all means, but allow growth and new possibilities to flourish. It is greed and fear that some men harbor, which hurts humanity. So many great men had to censor themselves, to put a filter on, in order to avoid persecution and ill-will. This is what they mean when they say $$$ is the root of all evil. Just remember this; behind my mask there is flesh, and behind this flesh there is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof.

V...my favorite movie!

 

[minister]

I guess fox news .. the most radical station on TV doesn't count?

let's see what used to be "tradition" and considered radical.... womens rights, blacks rights, beating children, etc, etc..

The right hates all progress. You disagree with all new science (big bang, evolution, climate, energy), you disagree with equality for everyone (it was blacks and women, now gays), .. it gos on and on. You claim "fiscal responsiblity" and call obama a socialist.. when it was bush who bankrupted this country, ruined its economy and started 2 unjust wars...


It's pretty sad that COMEDY shows on a daily basis show right through these clowns hypocrisy and lunacy.. and yet "educated" people still believe them.

I have no idea why you would assume that I am against equality for women and black people, funny I am 3/4 hispanic, 1/4 black, and my mom is a woman,and as far as new science goes if you want to think your greatggreatgrandfather was a monkey, that's fine with me, but don't make a monkey out of me bro. I was more thinking about the traditional family, and fiscal responsibility, I wasn't saying that the politicians on the right think like me , they used to, but something has gone wrong in Washington, it's not about the people anymore, it's about power grabbing politicians with their own agendas. You got me on one thing though, I disagree with giving a group of people special civil rights not because of the color of their skin, or because of gender, but because of a specific behavior as in the case of homosexuals. It's time to go to bed, long day tomorrow, don't get so exited bro, we're just sharing our thoughts, tomorrow you will forget all about this conversation. God bless you and yours. The Minister.

 

[Ivan]

V...my favorite movie!

I LOVE that quote!

(and movie for that matter)

 

[minister]

Discussions like climate change, evolution, germs causing disease, gravity, the earth revolving around the sun, etc... These are not points of view to be listened to and respected. These are discussions, conclusions, and theories from the scientific community. Individuals who dedicate decades of life in their fields; PhDs and professors on their subject matters, the cream of the crop of our species. I'll take that over my or your core beliefs, and to quickly dismiss something as meticulously studied as climate change is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous.

well, again Why do you assume that I dismissed this theory of global warming so quick? Bro I used to believe this was true, but I have been studying on this subject for the last 8 years, and just because the media is saturated with misguided studies that simply everybody seems to take as truth without even blinking an eye, it doesn't make it true, the science and theorys behind this whole concept is shaky at best, do your own research, you just might be surprised of what you find, Tomorrow I am posting a series of books written by well known scientists that opposed this idea, backed with facts and numbers, some very interesting reading. Blessings to all my friends at PM.

 

[Krom]

Guy wins a Nobel peace prize for a slide show

 

[godzillaballs]

Discussions like climate change, evolution, germs causing disease, gravity, the earth revolving around the sun, etc... These are not points of view to be listened to and respected. These are discussions, conclusions, and theories from the scientific community. Individuals who dedicate decades of life in their fields; PhDs and professors on their subject matters, the cream of the crop of our species. I'll take that over my or your core beliefs, and to quickly dismiss something as meticulously studied as climate change is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous.

That is where you are completely and utterly wrong.

 

[wostok]

Well, the real threat to us and our environment is all the pollution from chemicals and heavy metals.

Our water gets more and more polluted everyday and the same with our food.


That is the real problem, no politican never mentions it.

And when will it stop? It wont... everyone just ignores it. Its time for people to respect Nature... Water and Soil should be classified as HOLY.

 

[kid1dakota]

Guy wins a Nobel peace prize for a slide show

I agree but at least he did something even if it was just a slideshow.That prize is now a joke after Obama won it for what???? getting a dog! thats all he has done.

 

[alecaf]

Well, the real threat to us and our environment is all the pollution from chemicals and heavy metals.

Our water gets more and more polluted everyday and the same with our food.


That is the real problem, no politican never mentions it.

And when will it stop? It wont... everyone just ignores it. Its time for people to respect Nature... Water and Soil should be classified as HOLY.

yeah but if democrats mention it republicans will forever try to debunk it, and if republicans mention it democrats will do the same. If one politician mentions it it will become partisan just like global warming.

 

[alecaf]

But i do have to say something about this thread, for being in a bodybuilding forum it has been a pretty intelligent discussion, on the most part. I would've expected more radical politics.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

But i do have to say something about this thread, for being in a bodybuilding forum it has been a pretty intelligent discussion, on the most part. I would've expected more radical politics.

Thats what makes america the best country in the world brother. You can openly discuss your views without fear of being thrown in jail or hunted down and hooded on the middle of the night and taken out to some farm house in the filed and interagated by someone with 30 letters in his first name.

 

[tl2001]

That is where you are completely and utterly wrong.

Care to ellaborate?

 

[STEVO 47]

But there is a distinction between being tolerant -- and being a total pushover. Know what I mean? And I just posted those definitions to make sure people understood what exactly these terms are 'supposed' to mean lol. Like the conservative def; I could twist that and put a spin on it and say how afraid of change they are blah blah blah -- when great men come along that bring about change, it is these ppl who destroy them (Jesus, Ghandi, Lincoln, and the church almost killed Galileo to name a few) It is a close-minded mindset that is dangerous. Be cautious by all means, but allow growth and new possibilities to flourish. It is greed and fear that some men harbor, which hurts humanity. So many great men had to censor themselves, to put a filter on, in order to avoid persecution and ill-will. This is what they mean when they say $$$ is the root of all evil. Just remember this; behind my mask there is flesh, and behind this flesh there is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof.

People shouldn't be afraid of there goverment, goverment should be
afraid of there people..

Seen it 7 times .

 

[jamez]

Thats what makes america the best country in the world brother.

LOL. How many other countries have you lived in before proclaiming such nonsense?

We're not the best on quality of life, life expectancy, health... oooh ooh wait... we are #1 on most IMPRISONED population.. #1 on alot of violent crimes per population... #1 on military spending... #1 deficit (debt of the people).. yea yea your right we're the best

without fear of being thrown in jail or hunted down and hooded on the middle of the night and taken out to some farm house in the filed and interagated by someone with 30 letters in his first name.

Read the patriot act. You sure can be... held without charges or any legal rights for as long as they see fit.. all they have to do is "suspect" your an enemy combatant. Thanks to some guy's named Bush and Cheney.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

LOL. How many other countries have you lived in before proclaiming such nonsense?

We're not the best on quality of life, life expectancy, health... oooh ooh wait... we are #1 on most IMPRISONED population.. #1 on alot of violent crimes per population... #1 on military spending... #1 deficit (debt of the people).. yea yea your right we're the best

Well like i said, the simple fact that you can come on here say whatever it is you want to say about your government without them tracing your IP adress and beating you over the head with a club. Makes it the BEST COUNTRY ON EARTH! Do I have to live in another country to be able to say that? MAYBE. But I dont believe i have to. But I am very happy living in this country. I may not "like" the direction it's going in. But I certainly love this country and thank this country for all the opportunities it has given me and my family.

 

[Wynn]

Snow on the ground in 49 of 50 U.S. states.

49 states dusted with snow; Hawaii's the holdout | US National Headlines | Comcast.net

 

[Ivan]

Well

Snow on the ground in 49 of 50 U.S. states.

49 states dusted with snow; Hawaii's the holdout | US National Headlines | Comcast.net

It is the winter...