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Any brothers own any? Any brothers prefer to pay for their gear with it? i want to hear some feedback from all the brothers on their opinions on the Bitcoin!! If you are not sure what a Bitcoin is click the link below.

Getting started - Bitcoin

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If you accept them, you would be smart to hold onto them, as they could make you very rich one day. I do understand there is risk involved with Bitcoins, but man if they are here to stay they will make many people rich.
 
If you accept them, you would be smart to hold onto them, as they could make you very rich one day. I do understand there is risk involved with Bitcoins, but man if they are here to stay they will make many people rich.


This thread isn't just about me its about every person in this community. But yes for me I would like to own a few.
You should too brotha

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for anybody looking at bitcoins as an "investment", what do you base that off? There is nothing fundamental, technical, track record, nothing! It is a shallow, baseless and a very easy to manipulate market, so unless you are "in the know" which I doubt anybody here is, you are taking a 50/50 guess if its going up/down, when it might drop like a hammer, when regulation will be announced and crush price. Such a crap shoot, don`t get sucked into the hype of I`m gonna make 10x my $ in 6 months.
 
for anybody looking at bitcoins as an "investment", what do you base that off? There is nothing fundamental, technical, track record, nothing! It is a shallow, baseless and a very easy to manipulate market, so unless you are "in the know" which I doubt anybody here is, you are taking a 50/50 guess if its going up/down, when it might drop like a hammer, when regulation will be announced and crush price. Such a crap shoot, don`t get sucked into the hype of I`m gonna make 10x my $ in 6 months.

Love the input. You can however buy a porsche with Bitcoins, also some financial institutions are accepting it for tuition. So if you bougt a couple thousand when they were at 10 bucks you are in the green.

But what about the IRS?? They have not figured out how to tax it yet. Dont think people are going to turn this into cash and the us government not have their hands out

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Like it or love it, bitcoin has been a constant theme of headlines for the past year, as 2013 marked its coming of age.

Last year’s nerd money fad has become this year’s most talked about product.

Ultimately, nature abhors a vacuum and with western political leadership an increasingly distant memory, citizens are becoming increasingly restive about the parlous state of financial governance. Throughout the West, the ravages of quantitative easing [QE] have helped the wealthiest prosper, while ordinary citizens have struggled through a grinding economic plight, which has left voters feeling increasingly abandoned by government.

Into this void has stepped something which had been mooted for many years: a popular electronic currency. Bitcoin is filling a gap self-interested central bankers are keen to suggest doesn’t need filling. Establishment media has been wrong-footed as the Copernican Revolution in finance creates not just bitcoin but a series of parallel financial universes where independent money is at the center of commerce, as opposed to government manipulated fiat currency.

Meanwhile, bitcoin may not be the cryptocurrency the world uses in a decade and the biannual obituaries may yet prove right! As 2013 concluded, BTC’s value had multiplied albeit off its highs after the Bank of China endeavored to close the door to the threat of a backdoor floatation of the renminbi.

In reality, BTC is still remarkably small - growing exponentially from about 142 million dollars to circa 8 billion by Christmas. In other words, the total value of bitcoin amounts to the annual GDP of the Bahamas. Clearly bitcoin isn’t economically significant, yet. However, it now has its first ATM and many have bought beers, lattes and even homes with BTC this past year.

Naturally bankers of all shades are scared of losing their monopolist grip on money, yet given the vast inefficiency of their decrepit systems, it is probably already too late. Decentralized money is an idea whose time has come. Bitcoin is the breakthrough currency creating a widespread consciousness that there is an alternative to holding greenbacks, or lugging a trunk full of gold around.

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Perhaps the most surprising thing about bitcoin is, in essence, the banality of the arguments. When all else fails, skeptics just cry tulipmania. Indeed, bitcoin bubbled and almost halved in value before the year’s end, but then again, thanks to the idiocy of the banker-government nexus in the last decade, just about every asset bubbled then and a great deal are bubbling now, like art and classic cars, thanks to QE [quantitative easing].

Yes, people steal bitcoins and these thefts are techno-mythologized by scaremongering media. Yet stealing bitcoin is just a virtual variant of traditional pickpocketing. Indeed BTC has been used to finance crime, just like the dear old anonymous bearer bond dollar is beloved of drug cartels. Some American security agencies have expressed concern about their lack of control over bitcoin, but they had an annus horribilis, during which, despite their vast overarching eavesdropping capacity, they still failed to see their own currency woes coming.

While price inflation is the first thing everybody recalls about bitcoin in 2013, what really defines its incredible year was how it slipped out of nerds’ virtual wallets into the mainstream. An 8 billion dollar asset leveraged its value to dominate the headlines and gain widespread recognition. Germany legalized it and many nations acknowledged it - even the US courts. That Norway called it an asset was seen as a dreadful slight; rather it was a splendid incremental step to wider appreciation. In the end, China and Thailand pushed back against the bitcoin juggernaut. The latter is hardly of global economic significance, while the former maintains a closed currency regime.

The year of bitcoin began with the currency on the fringes of digital society, but by the end of the year it was clearly “merging with the mainstream”. Decentralized crytocurrency is still in its infancy but the argument against central bankers’ follies is being won across the globe. After all, you can’t ‘clip’ bitcoin to degrade its value, nor can you inflate its value with QE or other flawed government policies.

2013 ended with citizens increasingly alienated from government as a monetary ally and edging closer to “In Bitcoin we Trust”. Bitcoin itself may only be the first stage of a revolution, similar perhaps to the Netscape browser at the birth of the web, or the Ford Model T which popularized automobile transport. Ultimately, however you look at it, this was the year when bitcoin made its irrevocable mark on history.
 
This is a completely and totally unregulated non-tangible asset that is trading which happens to be heavily influenced by the black market...

I will be staying away.

Simply put any get rich quick crap isn't for the masses to invest in, like an IPO very few individuals will truly profit from bitcoins where a majority will be left with their dicks in their hands.


Bitcoins are already hyper valued, they will not appreciate much more as they gain global attention they are finally being scrutinized how they should have been in the first place. They will go the same way as tangible currency (gold/silver/etc)... down..down...down
 
This is a completely and totally unregulated non-tangible asset that is trading which happens to be heavily influenced by the black market...

I will be staying away.

Simply put any get rich quick crap isn't for the masses to invest in, like an IPO very few individuals will truly profit from bitcoins where a majority will be left with their dicks in their hands.


Bitcoins are already hyper valued, they will not appreciate much more as they gain global attention they are finally being scrutinized how they should have been in the first place. They will go the same way as tangible currency (gold/silver/etc)... down..down...down

At this point yes it wouldn't be wise to purchase because the value is high but alllllll those people that purchased at a couple bucks made out big time.

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It isn't "all" at all. A very very limited number of people got into bitcoins when the value was absurdly low.

Look at the growth patterns from the valuation of 0.0 to 1,500... slow and stagnant. These were the early utilizers coming in and purchasing large swathes of them.

Then the growth became erratic from everyone trying to jump onto a bandwagon. I don't consider someone buying in at 2,500 to sell at 5,000 making out big at all. Things like these basically run off of the same principal of VC investing. About 10-15% of your investments will do extremely well, the other 85% will tank. This was an idiotic risk that very few people did minimally well on and very small percentage did extremely well on. Which is no different than the standardized markets other than that the exposure to risk is exponentially higher.
 
It isn't "all" at all. A very very limited number of people got into bitcoins when the value was absurdly low.

Look at the growth patterns from the valuation of 0.0 to 1,500... slow and stagnant. These were the early utilizers coming in and purchasing large swathes of them.

Then the growth became erratic from everyone trying to jump onto a bandwagon. I don't consider someone buying in at 2,500 to sell at 5,000 making out big at all. Things like these basically run off of the same principal of VC investing. About 10-15% of your investments will do extremely well, the other 85% will tank. This was an idiotic risk that very few people did minimally well on and very small percentage did extremely well on. Which is no different than the standardized markets other than that the exposure to risk is exponentially higher.

Everything you say makes sense to me.
Digital currencies will be around for a while. I myself want to keep an eye on all if it.
Twitter should be making some noise for the next 2 - 4 weeks.

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It is interesting I will admit without a doubt. A global currency not directly attached to a specific bank is very exciting if it were to come about.

I don't see bit coins being around for another decade though. If the price tanks again I would say sure as an experiment but not as a corner stone investment.
 
It is interesting I will admit without a doubt. A global currency not directly attached to a specific bank is very exciting if it were to come about.

I don't see bit coins being around for another decade though. If the price tanks again I would say sure as an experiment but not as a corner stone investment.

Very knowledgeable person thank you for participating in this thread. Plus continue to follow.

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I will translate this tomorrow

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It's okay for transactions but I would never leave a substantial amount in there. The IRS will get them eventually and shut them down just like the rest before them.
 

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