Blood work Mid Blast

[KyleSmith1985]

Cycle
600 Test
400 Npp
250 EQ
200 Primo
200 Tren
100 Mast
Titrating GH from 10IU M-W-F to now 7IU AM & PM
Orals(training days only)-50 Anavar, 50 Winstrol, 50Injectable Super drol-Dropped the SDROL after two weeks.
During many months of this blast I was also on 100mg of Accutane but have been off for about 3 week prior to this test.

Some of you may be thinking wtf kind of cylcle is that so dangerous and irresponsible..... Yet If I posted I'm runng 1500 test 1000 Primo everyone would be fine with it even thought is a higher androgen load. I've been cycling for years and I perform, grow, and feel better when I use multiple compounds at lower doses. Whereas a 1g of test ill feel like crap.


Some observations for the first time in years maybe even a decade my Red Blood Cells and Crit are within range. This is also my first time running EQ in years in fear of increasing RBC. So EQ at least in lower doses isn't the boogey man of thickening blood. I test my ferritin because I crashed it donating blood and its been really hard to get it back in range, I'm getting close. This is also the best ever APO-B, Liver values, Crit since I've started cycling.

Also looks like the GH is crashing my T4. My t3 is still high. Does this warrant t4 use?

 

[specter]

Cycle
600 Test
400 Npp
250 EQ
200 Primo
200 Tren
100 Mast
Titrating GH from 10IU M-W-F to now 7IU AM & PM
Orals(training days only)-50 Anavar, 50 Winstrol, 50Injectable Super drol-Dropped the SDROL after two weeks.
During many months of this blast I was also on 100mg of Accutane but have been off for about 3 week prior to this test.

Some of you may be thinking wtf kind of cylcle is that so dangerous and irresponsible..... Yet If I posted I'm runng 1500 test 1000 Primo everyone would be fine with it even thought is a higher androgen load. I've been cycling for years and I perform, grow, and feel better when I use multiple compounds at lower doses. Whereas a 1g of test ill feel like crap.


Some observations for the first time in years maybe even a decade my Red Blood Cells and Crit are within range. This is also my first time running EQ in years in fear of increasing RBC. So EQ at least in lower doses isn't the boogey man of thickening blood. I test my ferritin because I crashed it donating blood and its been really hard to get it back in range, I'm getting close. This is also the best ever APO-B, Liver values, Crit since I've started cycling.

Also looks like the GH is crashing my T4. My t3 is still high. Does this warrant t4 use?

but the reason your red cells and crit is within range is because your ferritin is low, once that gets up your red cell and crit will bounce up.

 

[KyleSmith1985]

but the reason your red cells and crit is within range is because your ferritin is low, once that gets up your red cell and crit will bounce up.

I don’t see the logic in that unless I start overdoing it on iron supplements. My ferritin has been going up each test. Previous two ferritin reading were 30, 33 now 37.

When my ferritin was 30 my crit was 62.

 

[Zamun]

Some of you may be thinking wtf kind of cylcle is that

Literally everyone reading this lol



Whatever works for you though man. How do you feel with your estrogen that low though?

 

[Mufasa123]

I don't think anyone would call it overly dangerous but 6 injectibles and 2-3 oral compounds seems a bit complicated. The 100 mast, 200-250 primo and equipoise specifically on injects. All 3 of those are in the weaker/less effective side and lower end or below dosages in each. Total it and it's like any one of those run at a moderate dose. That said, do what you like, nothing wrong with it.

The test/deca/tren and winny/var oral is carrying the bulk.

I also don't know that I'd render ultimate judgment on equipoise and hct with only a couple hundred milligrams minimal dose in a stack like that. The deca/tren are probably bigger drivers here of hct in that stack (speaking from my own experience). But if the reading is good then continue. I just wouldn't write the equipoise/hct relationship off and run a gram of it assuming it away based on 200mg weekly.

I only write this because your comments kind of elicited it. No real criticism just some thoughts.

 

[Siggy]

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I'm sure you have a reason for trying everything, but I'm not sure if I understand that just because test makes you feel bad, “I need to have 17 variables.” Have you tried lower test, higher one anabolic, to see how you felt? Higher test, mixture of two anabolics? Not higher test…add 19 things. I don’t even think there isss a rationale explanation to add alll of that. You have no idea what is doing what. Why the 100 Mast? Why that dose of EQ? Maybe I'm assuming wrong and you've tried all of these things and come to this conclusion and have alll of these answers. It just makes little sense looking at it.

 

[Splitzz]

How do you feel with your estrogen on the low side? Personally would want it higher, it’s good for muscle growth. Also can’t understand the reasoning for mast primo and eq

 

[KyleSmith1985]

Literally everyone reading this lol



Whatever works for you though man. How do you feel with your estrogen that low though?

Feel fine. Joints and libido are doing great. However I’ll be dropping the primo as it seems the EQ is enough to lower estrogen.

 

[specter]

I don’t see the logic in that unless I start overdoing it on iron supplements. My ferritin has been going up each test. Previous two ferritin reading were 30, 33 now 37.

When my ferritin was 30 my crit was 62.

Because your body is gonna prioritize different at different levels, ive seen it several times before, people tank their iron and ferritin by pulling to much blood and over time the red blood cells "die off" and their blood cells count etc goes down while their iron and ferritin levels are recovering their hema etc is low/normal and once ferritin and iron bounce back their red cells etc goes up.

 

[KyleSmith1985]

I'm sure you have a reason for trying everything, but I'm not sure if I understand that just because test makes you feel bad, “I need to have 17 variables.” Have you tried lower test, higher one anabolic, to see how you felt? Higher test, mixture of two anabolics? Not higher test…add 19 things. I don’t even think there isss a rationale explanation to add alll of that. You have no idea what is doing what. Why the 100 Mast? Why that dose of EQ? Maybe I'm assuming wrong and you've tried all of these things and come to this conclusion and have alll of these answers. It just makes little sense looking at it.

I’ve had the opportunity to try most things with 16 years of cycling. I do well with high dose NPP 700-1000 and moderate test 250. I also do well with low dose test 125/mg and tren at 400. Tren wreck my hair and cardio and the sweating is ridiculous so I don’t run tren over 200 anymore.

The mast is cosmetic is purely cosmetic. Not really a big need but I get 100mg of the test and tren through a “ripped” mix which has 100mg mast per ml.

I’m usually not a fan of blends but the source was liquidating and it was a steal.

 

[cage99]

You should always supplement T4 when using higher dosages of GH. To determine the correct T4 dosage will be found by doing routine bloodwork over a few months.

If using 10iu GH I’d personally take 100mcg of T4 to start. Then reassess with bloodwork.

Cage

 

[luki7788]

You're not taking any T3? Because it looks like you're taking about 50mcg without T3. If you're not taking it, check your TSH level, but even without it, you're clearly on the verge of hypothyroidism, and you're actually on the verge.

 

[nothuman]

but the reason your red cells and crit is within range is because your ferritin is low, once that gets up your red cell and crit will bounce up.

Only in the general population is this usually the case. Testosterone and other androgens typically lower ferritin while increasing H/H

I don’t see the logic in that unless I start overdoing it on iron supplements. My ferritin has been going up each test. Previous two ferritin reading were 30, 33 now 37.

When my ferritin was 30 my crit was 62.

I would take 100mg iron bisglycinate EOD until ferritin gets to 70

Although I am curious how your hematocrit was once 62 and now it is so much lower. I am jealous of such a large reduction.

 

[nothuman]

Out of all the thyroid tests available, they chose to test T3 uptake and total T4? Those are some really weak thyroid tests that don’t really tell us much.

ApoB is great. GGT is very good. Cystatin C could be a little better if we really want to be perfect but it’s still good.

 

[specter]

Only in the general population is this usually the case. Testosterone and other androgens typically lower ferritin while increasing H/H


I would take 100mg iron bisglycinate EOD until ferritin gets to 70

Although I am curious how your hematocrit was once 62 and now it is so much lower. I am jealous of such a large reduction.

Yeah i know, thats why i think thats whats gonna happen, it will be depleted and bloods will bounce up.

 

[Mike_S]

No Reta or any other lipid modulating compounds?

 

[KyleSmith1985]

No Reta or any other lipid modulating compounds?

Plenty of ancillaries
10mg crestor 2x/week
10mg ezetimibe 2x/week
80MG telmi ED
Astralugus(sp?) root ED
1000mg tudca am/pm ED
2.5mg/reta week
10mg Nebivolol ED
400mg injectable glutathione 2x/week.

 

[KyleSmith1985]

Out of all the thyroid tests available, they chose to test T3 uptake and total T4? Those are some really weak thyroid tests that don’t really tell us much.

ApoB is great. GGT is very good. Cystatin C could be a little better if we really want to be perfect but it’s still good.

My fault for ordering the wrong thyroid test.

 

[KyleSmith1985]

You're not taking any T3? Because it looks like you're taking about 50mcg without T3. If you're not taking it, check your TSH level, but even without it, you're clearly on the verge of hypothyroidism, and you're actually on the verge.

Nope, no t3. I’ve added 100mcg t4 since these tests and plan on retesting with a more comprehensive thyroid panel.