Blood work on High Androgen Low Test

[Zamun]

im more curious in the other bloodwork, this new promotion of low test and high (insert primo or mast) has no backing of actually being healthier than monitoring estrogen on higher test with some sprinkle of an AI. Personally with myself along with tons of other labs i have seen, peoples lipids are way worse with higher primo and low test and very skewed vs using an AI. The anti ai thing has gotten out of hand

I’ve said it before that primo hits my lipids worse than tren does. Not even a high dose of primo either, like 200-300 a week. No idea how guys are running 200 test 1000 primo

 

[Mufasa123]

I’ve said it before that primo hits my lipids worse than tren does. Not even a high dose of primo either, like 200-300 a week. No idea how guys are running 200 test 1000 primo

Similar here.

My HDL on primo 600mg is similar to tren a at 300-350mg. Considering which one I make better gains on...

 

[GreatGhandi51]

I started in the late 80s and at that time test was there in the cycles, but it was secondary - at least in me and my associates. Thats said, it was never absent.

I would probably max out with 2cc of Upjohn or Steris test cypionate a week. Depending on what was available there would be various nandrolone esters, low concentration EQ, parabolan, primobolan, Winstrol-V, anadrol, anavar, and Russian or German Dbol. I always favored anabolics and we tended to view test as bloat and sides in a bottle (there were no AIs, Nolva hard to get). It was just cheap at $10-14 dollars a vial so the poor young kids were on it, furthering it's unpopular image. We'd call these guys the "Melon Patch Kids" (Cabbage Patch doll era) because they were so bloated, like melons.

I still prefer a higher anabolic than test, but that's just me and I don't know if it's the best option - just what I like.

I apoloogise about the later reply; just been caught up with the work.
There was earlier comment about 4 weeks of test being romewhat falliable, try Tren then then let me see how you go.

Now to all readers reading this the majority of are of Estern European desecent. You guys thrive on carbs, im Arab our food is predoomnmintely fat (high fat/mod pro/mod carb)

And i learnt this from greg valentino one of my first vid's i watched of him; ' you have to listen to your body' this is is known as introspectiveness. Like for example i cannot touch Test E (BigMarcus from steroid forum pointed it in out to me, the 2 cch and 4 hydrogen doesnt work work with me chemical sttructure
s C27H40O3, and the molecular weight 412.61.

The structural formula is represented below:

• C26H40O3

All it takes is the 1 extra hyddrogen and im always tired hungry ettc etc.

Loook dont get me wrong test has it's place esp if your 10+ GH, i just cant persoanlly use,, out of breath, bloop, always horny compared to other compounds.

For the Western counterparts: Try something like this (dont worry abiot AI bullshit) 900primo ;// 900mg eq (priimary) mast /npp (secondary) and try arnorld cardies (will help wihth your HRT if yuor really worried abgout that).

Itll be the best your ever looked.

Goodlucky!

 

[willylong98]

Based on my reading of it; it was Siemens Centaur/Atellica so immunoassay.

But in laymans terms; just the standard blood test for free test and total test.

I had not followed the '50mg' to maintain normal physiological functions and just did regular check up and the above showed, thats when i came to conclusion about '70s bbers doing something right' despite it 'not' being right if that makes sense?

Another 'theory' one can pick up, is the extremely low SHBG. Some have theorised techniques to try to lower it on this forum, maybe low test is the way to go on about it (really not that interested to do further studies on it as not that fussed i enjoy looking like a 'horse' lol).

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This is how you look and youve run cycles consisting of 900mg Eq/ 900mg primo mast/npp? BRO you should NOT be giving advice.
I've never even touched dosages that high man. You are doing things incorrectly.
Our goal with PEDS as bodybuilders is to build muscle. You're focused on everything besides getting huge.
Respectfully you are just a drug user/abuser. Not a bodybuilder. This stuff blows my mind lol