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Bloodwork after 20 weeks of Test.

Nice job on being responsible and getting your blood work done. If your doctor has seen this than he/she knows you are on gear. I guess you did the blood work on your own.

If you are professionally familiar with hooking up IVs I'm not so sure why you and a trained friend couldn't do this yourself. You may want to include an aspirin in your daily supplements.

Me and my buddy both agreed on the Asprin thing. I start after I give blood today. How much blood do you think I can safety take out monthly?

What are you taking for your estrodial? With your test use I'm happily surprised it's in the normal range. 12,000 Test levels is high. :)

I was taking Balkan brand Aromasin. I started with 12.5 ED, but my nips got sore so I bumped it to 25. I noticed a small lump underneath my nips so I bumped it again to 37.5. The sorness went away but the lumps did not. I even tried some of my Novla for a few weeks, didn't work.

Any libido issues with the Deca? I always ask, it's tough on mine.

No issues at all. I debating on using my caber, but decided not to, and save it for a tren run. Glad I did.

How much weight have you gained since Sept 1st?

I started at 202 and I peaked at 228. I've been heavier in the past, but this time I was definitely the strongest I've ever been.

It sounds to me that you will take the necessary steps to move yourself back into the normal ranges.

I give blood today at 11am to the Redcross. I have no issues obtaining IV supplies to take my own blood, I'm just not sure how much to take 30 days after my blood draw today. I googled phlebotomies, but most of it is just how to get a job becoming one lol.
 
eGFR (e for estimated) is based off serum creatinine. Creatinine will always be higher for bodybuilders due to the presence of more muscle mass.


Thanks. So I'm confused on what's optimal?
 
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Start a saline lock with a 18g & run out 250cc, I use a suction canister as a catch basin...then run a liter back in, you'll be good to go....250cc out drops my HH about 3-5% depends on hydration level of course. Add Asa in if your worried about clots
 
Optimal would be to check with a nephrologist and see how your kidney is doing. There are no real markers for kidney damage until it's too late.


That really sucks. How would they go about checking? Expensive testing?
 
This is an interesting thread. Not to hijack but is anyone concerned about giving blood while on various compunds? I ask because I've heard you're not supposed to give if you've used recreational drugs so my question is what is the difference with rec and AAS?
 
Start a saline lock with a 18g & run out 250cc, I use a suction canister as a catch basin...then run a liter back in, you'll be good to go....250cc out drops my HH about 3-5% depends on hydration level of course. Add Asa in if your worried about clots

Let me make sure I've got this right.. Drain out 250cc of blood, or just under half a pint. Then run 1000cc of saline back in? Why so much?
 
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS donate double red blood cell when you donate. Way more effective at lowering RBC HEMO. Also incorporate blood thinners. Garlic, Fish oil, green tea extract, and ginko. My RBC and Hemo are naturally high ive managed to stay normal while on by following this. I have also trimmed my dosages.
 
I am not a big fan on my Dr knowing im on Anabolics. Did you just go in for 'routine' bloodwork, and since it came back high, your Dr referred you to a hematologist? And how did that work? you got blood taken out weekly?

I think that's a bad idea. how is he suppose to help you if you don't tell him the truth. that's one thing I would never do is lie to my doc. I tell my doc everything, even if I take Viagra. I know a lot of guys don't tell there doc about there aas use but I don't understand it. do you think they will call the cops? are you going to get punished? I know its now on my records but I could care less. if I want my doc to really help me then I am 100 percent honest with him
 
I think that's a bad idea. how is he suppose to help you if you don't tell him the truth. that's one thing I would never do is lie to my doc. I tell my doc everything, even if I take Viagra. I know a lot of guys don't tell there doc about there aas use but I don't understand it. do you think they will call the cops? are you going to get punished? I know its now on my records but I could care less. if I want my doc to really help me then I am 100 percent honest with him

You will care when the insurance companies find a way to get a hold of your records and you instantly become High Risk. Don't say that could never happen.
I do agree though, if a doctor is trying to treat you for something and you haven't told him everything, it is a very tricky situation.
 
You will care when the insurance companies find a way to get a hold of your records and you instantly become High Risk. Don't say that could never happen.
I do agree though, if a doctor is trying to treat you for something and you haven't told him everything, it is a very tricky situation.

that's what I meant. you see these guys bloodwork that's a mess and they leave there doc wondering whats going on because they don't tell him your using aas. why even go to the doc if your going to lie. how can he help you? I just don't get it. about the insurance company getting my records, i'll let you know when that happens:D
 
I'm thinking 20-30-40 years down the road, lets say I get cancer, CHF, etc.. Insurance companys are gonna look at my records and say, NOPE.. says right here you took AAS when you were younger, we are not covering anything. I totally believe something like that would happen.

Don't get my wrong, I do want my doc to know. But I dont want something like that to happen.
 

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