Boom dosing, with IPAM/GHRP-2.

[the_freeman]

Wow this is pretty interesting. I'm subbed to this!

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Yeah I'm trying it right now and it seems to be working...getting the numb hands/tight wrists and stuff.

 

[matty815]

Hey guys,
Just boom dosed 1800 mcg of Ipam.,
felt flushed, little hot in the face.

Will prob back down to 1mg later in the week.. just thought i'd try it out hehe.

What i will be doing is GHRP-6 2x/day 400mcg each shot, (my favorite dose, i see increased strength, sense of well being, better sleep, increased libido).

and Ipam 2x / week 1mg blasts, i got a little.. "giddy" this morning and did a huge dose but will back down starting with my next shot.

(I'd stick to that dose if i had enough Ipam on me LOL)

Or... i'll do 1x / week Ipam at 1800-2000mcg .. il make my final decision in a few days.

I love peptides.. new information is constantly found out about them, i beleive from doing all my research on Ipam, that its potential far exceeds just 1mg at a time.

I'd rather have an ultra Massive GH spike one time a week then a good GH spike twice a week.

My theory behind this goes back to when we were in our Teens..

We would have "growth spurts", massive amounts of GH pumping through our veins for short periods of time causing super physiological changes like decrease in body fat, increased LBM, increase in height, Strength, etc etc.

I beleive with my Super dosed Ipam and my GHRP-6 2x/day protocol, i will see some drastic changes.

Also, Will be on HGH in a few weeks at 3-3.5 IU/day .

(I dont use Mod-grf due to the side effects its given me in the past.. i know im hindering the Pulse by not using it but i cannot stand the sides i get from it.)

 

[beggar]

I don't know where you guys are getting your info, but boom dosing is wasting money. Why not just wait a few hours and take 3rd regular dose. taking the ghrp-6 at that dose may give you some nice prolactin and cortisol problems. Did you plan on getting those checked out?

Your so called ulta massive ipamorelin GH spike is going to affect subsequent spikes and pulses. When you were a teen your body didn't produce a pulse anywhere near that size. It would have caused your glands to desensitize to subjection GH pulse requests.

Boom dosing was just a test not meant to be used as a normal protocol. If you've read anything about peptides, you will know about desensitization issues are real and will come faster at higher doses.

Peptides are not new and there are plenty of studies past and present on them. How do think the saturation dose of 100mg came about?

The Beggar

 

[matty815]

I don't know where you guys are getting your info, but boom dosing is wasting money. Why not just wait a few hours and take 3rd regular dose. taking the ghrp-6 at that dose may give you some nice prolactin and cortisol problems. Did you plan on getting those checked out?

Your so called ulta massive ipamorelin GH spike is going to affect subsequent spikes and pulses. When you were a teen your body didn't produce a pulse anywhere near that size. It would have caused your glands to desensitize to subjection GH pulse requests.

Boom dosing was just a test not meant to be used as a normal protocol. If you've read anything about peptides, you will know about desensitization issues are real and will come faster at higher doses.

Peptides are not new and there are plenty of studies past and present on them. How do think the saturation dose of 100mg came about?

The Beggar

I have dropped my doses for long periods of time to what is recommended, (200mcg~ ghrp-6 ) My sleep got worse, i lost muscle fullness, strength became stagnant.

Dat says the highest dose for GHRP-6 that would still be considered beneficial and not raise pro/cor high is 400mcg.


Also from what dat has mentioned GHRP-6 has the least impact on cort/prolactin, i will post the quote if you'd like.

if my prolactin was out of wack im pretty sure my libido would plummet.. it rises when i go up to 400mcg at a time.

 

[TRU LIFE]

I don't know where you guys are getting your info, but boom dosing is wasting money. Why not just wait a few hours and take 3rd regular dose. taking the ghrp-6 at that dose may give you some nice prolactin and cortisol problems. Did you plan on getting those checked out?

Your so called ulta massive ipamorelin GH spike is going to affect subsequent spikes and pulses. When you were a teen your body didn't produce a pulse anywhere near that size. It would have caused your glands to desensitize to subjection GH pulse requests.

Boom dosing was just a test not meant to be used as a normal protocol. If you've read anything about peptides, you will know about desensitization issues are real and will come faster at higher doses.

Peptides are not new and there are plenty of studies past and present on them. How do think the saturation dose of 100mg came about?

The Beggar

im a secret fan of your posts dog...you always seem to drop some insight that most oversee and its easy to with all the peps oput there...

please post your thoughts beggar on what your optimal pep run ideas are, if you would..

peace and respect

 

[beggar]

I have dropped my doses for long periods of time to what is recommended, (200mcg~ ghrp-6 ) My sleep got worse, i lost muscle fullness, strength became stagnant.

Dat says the highest dose for GHRP-6 that would still be considered beneficial and not raise pro/cor high is 400mcg.


Also from what dat has mentioned GHRP-6 has the least impact on cort/prolactin, i will post the quote if you'd like.

if my prolactin was out of wack im pretty sure my libido would plummet.. it rises when i go up to 400mcg at a time.

Yeah go for it. Post the quote about 400mcg of ghrp-6 not causing a rise in prolactin. While you are at it, post the info about the purpose of the Boom dose ipamorelin test. You can't accept the info on ghrp-6 normal dose but ignore the info on boom dosing. Upper normal range of prolactin to some people can still cause problems.

Also it sounds like you are saying that your sleep was bad at 200mcg of ghrp-6 but somehow got better at 400 mcg of ghrp-6. That doesn't make sense. Can you clarify that. Unless you are looking for the gastric emptying, why not just take ipamorelin and leave ghrp-6 alone. I am sure you read that the gh release is the same without the gastric emptying or cortisol/prolactin side effects associated with higher doses of ghrp-6.

The Beggar

 

[osiris]

Yeah go for it. Post the quote about 400mcg of ghrp-6 not causing a rise in prolactin. While you are at it, post the info about the purpose of the Boom dose ipamorelin test. You can't accept the info on ghrp-6 normal dose but ignore the info on boom dosing. Upper normal range of prolactin to some people can still cause problems.

Also it sounds like you are saying that your sleep was bad at 200mcg of ghrp-6 but somehow got better at 400 mcg of ghrp-6. That doesn't make sense. Can you clarify that. Unless you are looking for the gastric emptying, why not just take ipamorelin and leave ghrp-6 alone. I am sure you read that the gh release is the same without the gastric emptying or cortisol/prolactin side effects associated with higher doses of ghrp-6.

The Beggar

I like just ipam. Large doses of ghrp2 kill me with the,gastric emptying worse than ghrp6. I have never understood why it affects me that bad.

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[matty815]

Yeah go for it. Post the quote about 400mcg of ghrp-6 not causing a rise in prolactin. While you are at it, post the info about the purpose of the Boom dose ipamorelin test. You can't accept the info on ghrp-6 normal dose but ignore the info on boom dosing. Upper normal range of prolactin to some people can still cause problems.

Also it sounds like you are saying that your sleep was bad at 200mcg of ghrp-6 but somehow got better at 400 mcg of ghrp-6. That doesn't make sense. Can you clarify that. Unless you are looking for the gastric emptying, why not just take ipamorelin and leave ghrp-6 alone. I am sure you read that the gh release is the same without the gastric emptying or cortisol/prolactin side effects associated with higher doses of ghrp-6.

The Beggar

"A Brief Summary of Dosing and Administration

Dosing GHRPs

The saturation dose in most studies on the GHRPs (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Ipamorelin & Hexarelin) is defined as either 100mcg or 1mcg/kg.

What that means is that 100mcg will saturate the receptors fully, but if you add another 100mcg to that dose only 50% of that portion will be effective. If you add an additional 100mcg to that dose only about 25% will be effective. Perhaps a final 100mcg might add a little something to GH release but that is it.

So 100mcg is the saturation dose and you could add more up to 300 to 400mcg and get a little more effect."
"Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.

GHRP-6 at the saturation dose 100mcg does not really increase prolactin & cortisol but may do so slightly at higher doses. This rise is still within the normal range.

GHRP-2 is a little more efficacious then GHRP-6 at causing GH release but at the saturation dose or higher may produce a slight to moderate increase in prolactin & cortisol. This rise is still within the normal range although doses of 200 - 400mcg might make it the high end of the normal range.

Hexarelin is the most efficacious of all of the GHRPs at causing an increase in GH release. However it has the highest potential to also increase cortisol & prolactin. This rise will occur even at the 100mcg saturation dose. This rise will reach the higher levels of what is defined as normal."

******All of the above information was written by DAT, i do not take credit for anything posted in the above statement.******

As it says, 100mcg is the saturation dose, adding 100 more would give you 50% increase, 100 on top of that 25% increase, and 100 ontop of that just slightly more of an increase. (For GHRP-6) would explain why my sleep got worse as well as all the others i mentioned.

Also, as DAT stated, even going beyond 100mcg doses the rise is still within normal range.

I did not intend to ignore the Ipam info Beggar, sorry for that. was running out the door and forgot to mention that.

Ipam boom dosing is a new aspect i am utilizing.. Osiris got me very interested with it.
I understand what you are saying that it was a Test, and not intended for a "normal routine" so to speak. but a few people have been experimenting with it and loving the results. so i am trying it as well.

 

[richiec]

If 1MG Ipam is administered, then 20 minutes later 3IU HGH is administered..

Roughly what is that equal too in HGH IU's?

I'm thinking that would be similar to 7-8IU's of GH?.

So.. 400mcg of GHRP-6 + 3IU HGH would be equal to roughly 4-5 IU HGH?

(Mod-grf kills my rats libido.. even on 900mgs of Test + 400mgs of mast.)

How does Mod-grf kill your libido? I don't understand

 

[richiec]

And Matty, ghrp6 will affect prolactin and cortisol above 100mcg, DAT clearly says that. Beggar knows his stuff

 

[matty815]

How does Mod-grf kill your libido? I don't understand

no idea my friend, i wish i knew myself.

 

[rock75]

So 100mcg is the saturation dose and you could add more up to 300 to 400mcg and get a little more effect."
"Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.


Not sure what you dont understand....

 

[matty815]

So 100mcg is the saturation dose and you could add more up to 300 to 400mcg and get a little more effect."
"Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.


Not sure what you dont understand....

I understand Ipam doesn't create prolactin or cortisol.

doesnt induce hunger like ghrp-6 does and is more expensive, thats why i dont run it as frequently as 6.

 

[beggar]

For some reason I knew you were gonna use that info as your basis. Atleast you aren't going in blind. I can tell you that the more you read, the more answers you have, and the more you read.

As you can see your higher dose of ghrp-6 is killing your sleep. I asked you to consider dropping ghrp-6 an going straight ipamorelin. You can use let's say 400 mcg 4 times a day, the last one being at night before bed. You'll sleep like a champ. I've tried boom dosing ergo peps. I used a combo of 500mcg ipamorelin/ 500 mcg ghrp-2 3 times a day with 250 mcg mod grf. I got such a head rush I wanted to lay under a table in the fetal position and I couldn't stop eating. I noticed after a week or so, the effects became less and less. That let me kwow my body can't continue creating such high pulses and was desensitizing. Also those boom doses take around 5+ hours before your body is even ready to initiate another pulse.

A 400 mcg dose of ghrp-6 is gonna make you eat more as well, but that doesn't mean you won't get fat from the extra calories your body may not need.

I don't know why ghrh effects your libido. Take some viagra for that. lol If you really wanna see a boom dose, combine your high ipamorelin dose with some mod-grf and watch your head go to the moon for a few seconds. If you are gonna boom dose, do it at bed time to help your sleep. But only do it for a few days and go back to normal dosages to spare to pituitary.

The Beggar

 

[matty815]

For some reason I knew you were gonna use that info as your basis. Atleast you aren't going in blind. I can tell you that the more you read, the more answers you have, and the more you read.

As you can see your higher dose of ghrp-6 is killing your sleep. I asked you to consider dropping ghrp-6 an going straight ipamorelin. You can use let's say 400 mcg 4 times a day, the last one being at night before bed. You'll sleep like a champ. I've tried boom dosing ergo peps. I used a combo of 500mcg ipamorelin/ 500 mcg ghrp-2 3 times a day with 250 mcg mod grf. I got such a head rush I wanted to lay under a table in the fetal position and I couldn't stop eating. I noticed after a week or so, the effects became less and less. That let me kwow my body can't continue creating such high pulses and was desensitizing. Also those boom doses take around 5+ hours before your body is even ready to initiate another pulse.

A 400 mcg dose of ghrp-6 is gonna make you eat more as well, but that doesn't mean you won't get fat from the extra calories your body may not need.

I don't know why ghrh effects your libido. Take some viagra for that. lol If you really wanna see a boom dose, combine your high ipamorelin dose with some mod-grf and watch your head go to the moon for a few seconds. If you are gonna boom dose, do it at bed time to help your sleep. But only do it for a few days and go back to normal dosages to spare to pituitary.

The Beggar

awesome read,
thankyou for the response friend.

 

[torque]

What is everybody here considering as a "boom" dose?(mcg wise for ipam)

 

[Gravel]

What is everybody here considering as a "boom" dose?(mcg wise for ipam)

500 to a 1000mcg for my research.