Bostin Loyd & Jerry Ward Were Federal Informants

[DOGGCRAPP]

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[btails]

@DOGGCRAPP please tell us the full story you had written originally along with all the others.

I'm sure I along with everyone wants to know all this type of stuff.

 

[Fleezy]

being a snitch while having a wife and child is crazy

 

[Alpha246]

Wild

 

[Mute]

Whoa..this is def interesting

 

[A50#]

i just called up @Muay Thai

he's taking care of em

So that's what happened to both of them

 

[specter]

I wrote up a long detailed post to this thread....looked at it....thought to myself "Do you really want to get into this mess?" and the truth of the matter is I dont. I dont run in those circles and I dont want to get into this mess.
So I am going to take that 16 paragraph mess I wrote up complete with intricate details and pair it down to 10-12 lines of text if i can.

Here are the facts and im going to keep this short if I can. There are two lawyers in the USA that are the main ones protecting people from snitches and rats in steroid cases, one being the main lawyer and another being a lawyer that helps him with some of those cases. That "help" lawyer has been my companies lawyer for over 22 years. His specialty is patents and all sorts of law but he also works with RC. JuanJohn from this board knows my lawyer. He was also John Meadows lawyer. The other main lawyer was Matt Porters friend and lawyer. John Meadows, myself, Matt and 2 other guys knew BL was ratting out everyone for years. I contacted others and a guy on this very board who I thought might be compromised back in the day to warn him. He is free to talk on this if he wants to.

BL was 100% (its not even arguable..its 100% fact) the confidential informant in not only that case shown but other cases in the USA. That link in this thread is the tip of the iceberg to what he was doing. All those juice/peptide companies that closed down in 2018-2019 etc who do you think brought that on? All those customers, their addresses, those mailing lists....if any of you got busted, red flagged or in trouble somehow since around 2016 onward, guess who most likely you to have to thank for that.....

I dont like these topics and like to stay out of them...but I freaking despise rats. DESPISE THEM! Why? A lot of you guys who have been here for a while know why. Back in 96 a member of this board Imbadman, and the owner of AE, and myself got our lives destroyed by a juice dealer rat that was able to reverse all his trouble he was in onto us. And what did I do instead of ratting like that dude? I took my lumps like a fucking man. And when i was asked i was facing 4 at the time which got whittled down to one over time. Stood tall and took my penalty like a man. So I despise rats.

This had a lot more to it and was really really long and I am glad I shortened it to this. That whole Leo Longevity debacle was because of this very subject right here and I was 100% right as you can see.

Below is my lawyer responding to me back in 2018 because I am bewildered the Feds are just letting BL inject/incriminate/ and say and do anything online...so this 50-60 year old lawyer who didnt know who BL was from adam until he became the govs conf informant is getting kind of irritated with me asking him "are you sure?" This was also all verified thru Matt Porters contact also which is different than mine. Ok im done with this stuff.

PS on a sidenote: You guys have no idea how many times I have to say to myself "dont get involved...just click the X on the right and get out of here"...some of you guys get bamboozled and brainwashed by people on youtube and social media...its freaking painful to watch. (I went into this in big detail with my writeup and thank god i am not posting it....i dont need that hassle...i am too busy)

Every time i see one of you guys say BL blew out his kidneys from that peptide....Jesus christ guys....I was sent his bloodwork by one of his friends who tried to keep him anonymous to try to get my help on his kidney values (i figured it out who it was later ) it was before he ever used that peptide. His GFR was 11-16 and his creatinine was way up at 3.4 or something like that and that was all pre peptide. Some of you guys need to stop and think before you believe ever single thing a social media person wants you to believe.

I was pulled into a case by a rat, he was lookin to go free, i was lookin at 3-4 years, he even pulled his own brother into the case, i kept my mouth shut until the case was in court, i pulled his brother out, he was 100% aquitted and got money for spending time in lockup, i was given a 15 month sentence and got out after 9 months with good behavior, snitch was handed 9 months in same jail as me
Had the snitch kept his mouth shut and played dumb at worst all he was lookin at was 3months suspended sentece or a gps anglemonitor...

 

[null88]

If you wanna make money selling illegal drugs, you assume the risk and consequences that come along with it.

 

[thethinker48]

All this legal debacle over people wanting to take chemicals to get bigger muscles...

How much of modern government is a play on personal career growth and politics vs actual utility

 

[Bio]

If you wanna make money selling illegal drugs, you assume the risk and consequences that come along with it.

Thanks for the profound insight!

 

[Chinaski]

This is just another confirmation that the entire industry is completely disgusting and self-serving.Full of people who will fuck someone over for next to nothing. Some of the worst people I’ve met in my life were from the bodybuilding world. Sad. Bostin being a piece of shit is no surprise, but Jerry seemed decent enough.

 

[Muay Thai]

I find it humorous that anyone is surprised when someone rolls.
I grew up with murderers and killers. I have seen the baddest mfers, tatted head to toe with prison earned tats, ROLL on their crime partners etc when being investigated during good cop/bad cop SCARE, and the bad cop hits you with "Youre looking at X amount of years and your buddies are rolling on you in the other room" You are a straight bitchmaid and a buster if you do a crime and you arent down to do the time. Imagine during this time he was a CI, if bostin loyd got a DUI, and cops didn't cut him lose , and he had to actually do some time (NOT SIT IN DRUNK TANK AND BAIL OUT), guards would give up his paperwork and he would be beaten to a pulp and forced to roll it up. You better hope if you are cooperating with police and feds you do not commit an infraction. Your PAPERWORK will be exposed and you will be swiss cheezed with prison made bone crushers/shanks. AT LEAST IN CALI. I can attest. I hate snitches!!!! Judases . I did time a a few times because mfers who weren't really with the business but acted like it folded under pressure. I allegedly crossed paths with LEGENDS/MAWF10505 who roll.i Ive also known those MADE MEN to get caught being careless and slipping during wire taps or a WILA gets intercepted by a CO (A KITE), and they get removed (unalived) even if they were in good standing with the mawfia for getting caught slipping. PS if you are going to the hole and you are white or Mexican you have to carry in dope to the shot callers in the SHU or a KITE you have ZERO CHOICE. KILLERS. football numbers scare 99.99% of population and investigators will lie through their teeth to get you to roll and fall from grace.

 

[KingOfSushi]

I find it humorous that anyone is surprised when someone rolls.
I grew up with murderers and killers. I have seen the baddest mfers, tatted head to toe with prison earned tats, ROLL on their crime partners etc when being investigated during good cop/bad cop SCARE, and the bad cop hits you with "Youre looking at X amount of years and your buddies are rolling on you in the other room" You are a straight bitchmaid and a buster if you do a crime and you arent down to do the time. Imagine during this time he was a CI, if bostin loyd got a DUI, and cops didn't cut him lose , and he had to actually do some time (NOT SIT IN DRUNK TANK AND BAIL OUT), guards would give up his paperwork and he would be beaten to a pulp and forced to roll it up. You better hope if you are cooperating with police and feds you do not commit an infraction. Your PAPERWORK will be exposed and you will be swiss cheezed with prison made bone crushers/shanks. AT LEAST IN CALI. I can attest. I hate snitches!!!! Judases . I did time a a few times because mfers who weren't really with the business but acted like it folded under pressure. I allegedly crossed paths with LEGENDS/MAWF10505 who roll.i Ive also known those MADE MEN to get caught being careless and slipping during wire taps or a WILA gets intercepted by a CO (A KITE), and they get removed (unalived) even if they were in good standing with the mawfia for getting caught slipping. PS if you are going to the hole and you are white or Mexican you have to carry in dope to the shot callers in the SHU or a KITE you have ZERO CHOICE. KILLERS. football numbers scare 99.99% of population and investigators will lie through their teeth to get you to roll and fall from grace.

You sound pretty badass man

 

[Biggerp73]

. PS if you are going to the hole and you are white or Mexican you have to carry in dope to the shot callers in the SHU or a KITE you have ZERO CHOICE.

I mean not if you don’t affiliate and bunk with the others

 

[Muay Thai]

I mean not if you don’t affiliate and bunk with the others

if you are in california, try this and get killed if you are white or Mexican. again, you do not have a choice, whether you were a CEO for a fortune 500, or you were a petty thief. You CANNOT RIDE SOLO if you are white or Mexican in California there is no HERO SHIT. You do your mandatory forced workouts daily also or you will be DPd with STEEL not just FISTS, removed off yard, and have to go PC SNY where there are ALSO gangs and vicious killers not just dropouts. When you are asked to raise your hand, you cannot say no. I am speaking from experience on California. all these other remarks and politics sound disorganized and weak af compared to how we are forced to and simultaneously embrace PROGRAMMING while incarcerated. never in my 37 years have I ever heard of a Mexican or white in California doing his own thing and not abiding by racial codes and their "CAR" aka WHITE or BROTHERS OTHERS or SOUTHERNERS AND PAISAS etc that is a CAR. you are watching too much television bro stop. And the hit squads are 2-4 people at once for both those races depending oninfraction

 

[Muay Thai]

if you have never done major time please don't offer your netflix perspective on how jail/prison politics work. I have had the keys plenty of times for my module /yard, it is not a fun job nor responsibility. its becoming quite amusing but offensive at these bodybuilders thinking they would go in there solo and run shit LMFAO sure buddy keep watching gangland and netflix. Run my paperwork. HIGHPOWER inmate every time. not no level 1 petty thief. 4 yard and high power only. Youre not the white tookie Williams and t00kie earned his power pedigree and prestige while INCARCERATED. whatever TF u did on the streets makes zero impact on your perceived pedigree behind bars. You can be a shooter on the outs and get whooped and DPd frequently while busted. Your reputation begins based on the amount of work you put in, not because you were a killer on the streets smoking opposition and rivals. they don't give 2 flying fucks, you abide by program or get dealt instantly

 

[Muay Thai]

I mean not if you don’t affiliate and bunk with the others

keep watching wes watson LMFAO , you are living in fantasy land and lying and misinformed - at least regarding California politics. Go to cali even for DUI, say you get some time, try that, ill put all the money on your books to keep you well fed, and I will be counting the hours to see how long you last.

 

[Biggerp73]

if you are in california, try this and get killed if you are white or Mexican. again, you do not have a choice, whether you were a CEO for a fortune 500, or you were a petty thief. You CANNOT RIDE SOLO if you are white or Mexican in California there is no HERO SHIT. You do your mandatory forced workouts daily also or you will be DPd with STEEL not just FISTS, removed off yard, and have to go PC SNY where there are ALSO gangs and vicious killers not just dropouts. When you are asked to raise your hand, you cannot say no. I am speaking from experience on California. all these other remarks and politics sound disorganized and weak af compared to how we are forced to and simultaneously embrace PROGRAMMING while incarcerated. never in my 37 years have I ever heard of a Mexican or white in California doing his own thing and not abiding by racial codes and their "CAR" aka WHITE or BROTHERS OTHERS or SOUTHERNERS AND PAISAS etc that is a CAR. you are watching too much television bro stop. And the hit squads are 2-4 people at once for both those races depending oninfraction

Eh, I’m speaking from experience. I never once joined the woods. Always bunked others. Never had problems, except for with one Native American guy.

 

[Biggerp73]

if you have never done major time please don't offer your netflix perspective on how jail/prison politics work. I have had the keys plenty of times for my module /yard, it is not a fun job nor responsibility. its becoming quite amusing but offensive at these bodybuilders thinking they would go in there solo and run shit LMFAO sure buddy keep watching gangland and netflix. Run my paperwork. HIGHPOWER inmate every time. not no level 1 petty thief. 4 yard and high power only. Youre not the white tookie Williams and t00kie earned his power pedigree and prestige while INCARCERATED. whatever TF u did on the streets makes zero impact on your perceived pedigree behind bars. You can be a shooter on the outs and get whooped and DPd frequently while busted. Your reputation begins based on the amount of work you put in, not because you were a killer on the streets smoking opposition and rivals. they don't give 2 flying fucks, you abide by program or get dealt instantly

It’s pretty obvious based on your personality here that you couldn’t get a pass. But I’m an unassuming guy. People don’t mess with me because I don’t present myself as competition or carry myself like I think I’m hard.

 

[Muay Thai]

Eh, I’m speaking from experience. I never once joined the woods. Always bunked others. Never had problems, except for with one Native American guy.

bullshit, NOT A CALIFORNIA EXPERIENCE. and with that said, whererever else you were . if you want us to believe you are wes watson 2.0 show me your paperwork I have all mine! If were in cali unless you are an OG you will be forced to out In work or violently removed -depending on infraction- unalived. Weak ass politics In other states and racial mixing is prevalent. in cali, if you are white or Mexican, you cant even sit at the same table as another race unless you're white or Mexican, never blacks or natives akaa others. you may play peanuckle or bones (dominos). in cali you cant even accept a commissary trade or drink a milk carton a black or other touches first or you get the shit beaten out of you 13 sec if your Mexican 23 sec if your white for the letter W. I ENFORCED THESE RULES WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND HAD EXPECTATIONS. even on a 2 week PO violation flash, you have till court to provide paperwork, you have less than 30 min to abide by the rules and set program for each car/race. I have seen a decorated 55 year old vet gunny sargeant get knocked out and have a stroke for having a dv on his paperwork. nobody is a above the program in CA CDCR. if your white you take orders from AB > PEN 1 > SKINS > WOODS. you talk to your key holder directly, never will you have access to a legend directly, and those calls come from pelican bay, Corcoran, high desert. feds run an entire diff program. you cant even use same phones as blacks and others in cali or you are fucked