BP management

[Hammer4]

Trying to get blood pressure back to under 130/75. Has crept up to 140+/80-85... Not outrageous but I'm cognizant about this factor as both parents are on BP meds ( my mother has been since her 30's which I just entered).

I've started walking for 30-60 minutes a night and have seen progress but know that this is likely going to be a lifetime battle.

I have 3 questions...
1) Do you consider my BP unsustainably high? 140/80
2) I feel way better with salt in the diet but understand that it plays a role here. What other dietary adjustments can I make to keep BP in check?
3) At what BP would you say you would need pharma intervention while still addressing other factors?

 

[BIGMURPH]

140/80 is when I started to see my bp start to get worse around my mid 30s with parents like you with high bp I also knew it was just a matter of time.
Im now on bp meds and things are controlled. I don't believe that its something to worry about yet but I believe that risk vs reward should be taken into consideration with your doctor in regard to starting bp meds.

The salt I would hold off adding to your meals its an electrolyte so you need sodium in your diet but its found in almost everything not natural. I myself stopped using salt as an additive to foods except in some seasonings. I would just say cut back and be aware of your intake.

I believe pharma intervention needs to be discussed with your doctor mine wanted to start early and get ahead of the issue and I have a controlled BP except when enhanced.

Wish you the best brother hit me up anytime im happy to help [email protected]
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[Hammer4]

Thanks big murph, cutting down sodium seems like a good place to start.
I'm curious about salt substitutes... They have a lot of potassium, might pull some water off which could help. Might be worth a shot before going to bland ass food!

 

[BIGMURPH]

Thanks big murph, cutting down sodium seems like a good place to start.
I'm curious about salt substitutes... They have a lot of potassium, might pull some water off which could help. Might be worth a shot before going to bland ass food!

I remember my grandfather using some of the substitutes I don't know how they are honestly ive never used one.
I personally use pepper and skip the salt except in those circumstances were I use premade seasoning.
Some of the premade stuff has alot of sodium but some has minimal and you can still have taste on your food. Definitely helps lol
Hit me up anytime brother im always happy to help [email protected]
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[bodyofwork]

Prior to using meds since BP meds can really have negative impacts on other things I’d definitely take every step possible to see how low you can get it with lifestyle modifications first. Limit caffeine intake, practice breathing techniques, meditation, decrease sodium and increase potassium etc.

 

[Rumpwrangler]

Have you considered low dose cialis EOD or so?

 

[buck]

I never let my BP be in the 140/80 range for any period of time as it will most likely lead to earlier hardening of the arteries. You pulse pressure can give you an idea if this is starting to happen. Anything over 120/80 can lead to increased work load on the heart and problems later. Sodium seems to effect some but not others. Most will adjust within a short time to higher sodium intakes. I know people with heart disease that were not told by their Dr. to lower sodium. And studies show that groups that eat more sodium on the average live longer then those at the lower intake end. I have always done some form of aerobics and try to throw in HIIT at least once every few days. Various foods such as beet root powder have been shown to work along the same lines as Cialis. I would not let my BP stay high long term as all i have to do is look around me to see the outcome. ED, kidney disease, eye problems etc. can happen as these things often show up before heart problems as they have smaller veins and such.

 

[Hammer4]

Prior to using meds since BP meds can really have negative impacts on other things I’d definitely take every step possible to see how low you can get it with lifestyle modifications first. Limit caffeine intake, practice breathing techniques, meditation, decrease sodium and increase potassium etc.

I'm definitely going to wait on meds and exhaust lifestyle changes first, but I feel like BP meds are probably an inevitability... I could do without caffeine though. That will be next if needed. Still got half a tub of gorilla mode pre-workout lol.

 

[Hammer4]

Have you considered low dose cialis EOD or so?

Yes I've heard good things about tadalafil

 

[Hammer4]

ED, kidney disease, eye problems etc. can happen as these things often show up before heart problems as they have smaller veins and such.

This is spot on and why I'm trying to address early. Noted on beet root as well.

Even when natty my systolic was 130+ but diastolic is my main worry getting up over 80. I feel like I could live with 130/70.

 

[buck]

This is spot on and why I'm trying to address early. Noted on beet root as well.

Even when natty my systolic was 130+ but diastolic is my main worry getting up over 80. I feel like I could live with 130/70.

A pulse pressure over 60 is considered a sign of possible heart disease. But at least a diastolic of 70 would lower then risk i would think.

 

[juggy38]

Long duration slow cardio. Not walking, HR 125-140s for 40-90 minutes. 2-3x a week

 

[Hammer4]

A pulse pressure over 60 is considered a sign of possible heart disease. But at least a diastolic of 70 would lower then risk i would think.

Thanks Buck let's hope

 

[juggy38]

And it doesn’t have to be cardio that mucks up recovery. The less eccentric force, the less it will eat up recovery. And honestly, as long as you titrate up slowly, I would bet you find weight training and recovery better.


Slow burpees are a great tool. Literally stand in front of your TV, turn on a 40 minute Netflix show. Do burpees without the “flop and pop” just get down to your belly, push up and stand up. Nice controlled pace, it gets HARD at 20 minutes.

Another one is rucking. A backpack or weighted vest of 30-40lbs. Just get to brisk walking, even better if you can find some moderate hilly terrain.

Rowing is nice too, just most go too hard. LONG duration cardio can’t be HARD. It’s keeping the pace for 40-60 minutes that does the magic. You should be able to hold simple conversation the whole time.

For the least interference….non lifting days>10-12 hours prior to lifting>post lifting>pre lifting.

 

[juggy38]

Supplements that help, and are just good staples, 400-600 magnesium daily, curcumin, beet root powder.

 

[Hammer4]

Another one is rucking. A backpack or weighted vest of 30-40lbs. Just get to brisk walking, even better if you can find some moderate hilly terrain.

A friend of mine hiked the Appalachian trail a couple years ago (he's a crazy fucker but great dude) and was telling me about his training which was essential what you described.
I could wrap some 25 in a towel and put in a pack, pop in the ear buds and crank some music or even an audio book for and hour/ hour and a half no problem. Core would probably get a little stronger in the process too!

Good idea brother

 

[juggy38]

A friend of mine hiked the Appalachian trail a couple years ago (he's a crazy fucker but great dude) and was telling me about his training which was essential what you described.
I could wrap some 25 in a towel and put in a pack, pop in the ear buds and crank some music or even an audio book for and hour/ hour and a half no problem. Core would probably get a little stronger in the process too!

Good idea brother

Man find you a good podcast and get after it. In 2-3 weeks you’ll be amazed how better you function in life.

Just make sure the backpack sits high and tight, not pulling your shoulders back.

Long duration easy cardio isn’t sexy, but think of all the old school boxers that roadwork was a huge part of them bein an athlete

 

[Hammer4]

Added in some magnesium 500mg ED and been consistent with cardio at least 3X week. Back to 130/70 pretty consistently. Appreciate the suggestions fellas, we're headed in the right direction.

 

[broza]

im a huge fan of telimisartan, it has also helped my lipid profile that was getting a little scewed from TRT.

 

[bigains]

Under 120/80 is the ideal goal to prevent damage to the vascular system over the long term. If you have to resort to medication an arb like telmisartan or losartan are a good place to start. I also like using no-salt potassium salt on my food, I feel more intramuscular fullness and less subcutaneous water retention when I use a lot of it to season my food, to ballance out the sodium.