BP Masteron

[anabolicbruce]

Balkan Masteron

Got a question about BP Mast, which I recently started about 2 weeks ago. For the past few years I have stuck with Test Cyp and Nandrolone, which i have prescriptions for, but since i love masteron I figured id give it a run again. Since i am in the medical feild (I rep BHRT hormones for a pharmacy and co-operate an HRT clinic) I have always been hesitant to use UGL stuff since there is no way all these guys makin this stuff have the right equipment to produce quality gear. not to mention the work that goes into maintaining a sterile cleaning room (not to say there are no UGLs out there that pulled this off).

Anyway, i recieved the masteron from BP and there was no serial number or date, just a sticker on the back with an UPIC # and Exp date. This UPIC # does not coorelate with the BP website, nor does their site indicate they even make masteron. Any feedback on this? Also, since I have been "out of the UGL game" awhile; how do these companies know that the raw powders they are purchasing (more than likely from china) is actually Drostanolone? I probably sound paranoid but I am very particular about what I inject into my body (as we all should be). The nandrolone and test I know is good to go since I get it via prescription at US pharmacies.

As expected from a UGL I got a little "flu" after the forst couple shots and the injections hurt like a bitch. I look foward to some feedback.

 

[surf256]

They usually don't know that is why you have to trust your source. After a few orders you start to see and smell the diff between the products. So when you get a batch in some flags may go up if it looks out of the ordinary. Theyou can send it off to a lab to get tested or check the melting point of the product.

 

[anabolicbruce]

Thanks for the quick feedback. Where can I get this tested? I called a few labs I used in the past and they no longer test anabolics. I cannot test them anywhere near my work for obvious reasons...

 

[anabolicbruce]

BTW, I trust this forum and therefore trust my source...one of the sponsors!

 

[big E]

Bro, I think you meant BD not BP? And the sorces who are carrying those brands I think are about as trustworthy as anyone you will find so I say you should be good to go. Getting a little flu like sypmtoms from masteron is a bit unusual. maybe the ba in the product is a bit higher than your legit U.S. items which your body may not be use to. That may explain. Good luck and if you ar talking about the sponsors here who carry it you should be good cause they are solid people!

 

[anabolicbruce]

Big E-

Thanks for the reply. I am actually refering to Balkan...i just was not sure about naming UGLs on this board. I assume the ba is what is giving me the inj. pain and flu symtoms, I can also taste a lil alcohol after injecting.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

how do you have a script for deca? as far as i know the things its legitimately prescribed for are

AIDS

rarely in treatment of osteoporosis in postmenopausal women at dose of 50 mg every three weeks

rarely used for some aplastic anaemias

 

[anabolicbruce]

We use nandrolone at our clinic for a few "off label", yet legal applications. Orthopedic recovery, after surgury/injury. is one common use. We also use it in conjunction to testosterone replacemnt therapy in men who are overweight and/or diabetic (onset) sice they aromatize more, therefore we can apply a lower dose of test cyp/enath until sufficient weight is lost and estrogen becomes less concern. Keep in mind very low doses are used for this (50mg-100mg per week---short term).

I personally use it for the former; I had 4 knee dislocations during football and while on AD in the marines. I wanted to avoid surgury so my doc placed me on nanrdolone which i take on and off at 100mg per week along with my testosterone replacment. I dont use it for too long, and no where close to BB doses since I do not like the bloat and increased progesterone that comes with it. 100mg/wk does plenty for me over 10 weeks. Since Watson discontinued manufacturing the name brand nandrolone, I now use a compounded version from our pharmacy, which is the same thing---nandrolone decanoate in sesame oil. Our doctors our fairly strict with this and labs are stricly enforced during therapy.

I actually started running it again after not taking it for 2 years, along with the balkan masteron about 2 weeks ago. I keep myself very lean and surprisingly I have had a flair-up of gyno which started a few days ago. Only on 100mg/wk nandro...100mg/wk Cyp, and 100mg eod of masteron. This is another reason I wanted to question the masteron since I notice more water retention and ive never had gyno issues...although possibly I am getting more sensitive to nandrolone, even at 100mg/wk ?!!

 

[anabolicbruce]

Is there a way to edit the thread title to "Balkan Masteron" instead of BP? Maybe ill get more feedback.

 

[BBkingpin]

Why aren't you using anti-aromatase and anti-estrogen?
Especially with test?
Especially with an UG label that may contain anything? (Not a knock on BP but like you said BP may get powder from china and not test it, the powders are probably most white crystals and indistinguishable from each other.)
How can you know if it's Masteron without lab testing it if you are taking two other compounds, deca and test? I don't think 100mg of deca would cause gyno but I know that test aromatizes more than any other compound but ppl still blame deca when they are taking deca in conjunction with test.
Why don't you compound your own masteron?
Masteron was American brand of Permastril, correct?
Bro, I think, in the end, you have to realize that UG labs pose a risk and create uncertainty.
Find the most reputable source possible. Or stick to the hg deca and test with proper ancillaries (anti-a and anti-e).

 

[anabolicbruce]

BB king-

I started arimidex last week. Ive been on TRT for 3 years and my estradiol always tested less that 30ng, which is good to go....never need an anti-E at 100mg/week of Cyp.

I already tried to get us to compound masteron...believe me...but the raws are now unavailable in the US for legal use. I had orderd powders myself a month ago and they came in unmarked baggies and looked funny...so i tossed it.

Where can I have the mast tested? I called SRCS labs, which i used in the past, and they no longer test anabolics.

I totally understand the risk with UGL...which is why I avoid them at all costs. Unfortuently my two favorites- Masteron and Primo- are only available from UGL sources.

I also have some Gernerics Pharm Mast amps but I have read negative threads on that too so I decided to order Balkan to give it a run. Just lookin for some feedback and reassurance.

 

[anabolicbruce]

Any updates on where i can get a lab analysis of UGL anabolics?

I want to submit both the Generics Pharm and Balkan drostanolone for testing.

 

[jdchaffin]

maybe I'm wrong but I thought Balkan was officially licensed as human grade.

 

[anabolicbruce]

From what I know it is a UGL spinoff of british dragon which markets itself as HG. IF you go to their website they dont even state that they produce masteron (or primo). Not to say it isnt legitamate.

I know that british dragons quality went down hill after 2006. They were known to use test prop in almost everything. the only lab tests i have seen on Balkan were done by a douche-bag we all know as Anthony Roberts so i consider this no-good data. I figured i would submit for testing myself and post results here for all to see. I am going to check with my work monday to see if i can submit for testing...but i assume this will not fly with the pharmacy owners given the state of legality currently surround anabolics in the US....ill give it a shot.

Any help/feedback would be apreciated.

 

[EDED]

dont know where you can test it, but not sure if this will help regarding gyno q.

i ran 450mg/wk of mast prop/200mg/wk deca and 250mg/wk test e and my gyno first started puffy then got stingy then got really small and became hard nodules still sensitive but the puffiness went away and the lumps got smaller.

upon stopping they went back to normal, soft and a little puffy.

if you get tested regularly for bloodwork, would love to see

total t, free t, free e2 and progesterone while you are on all three compounds.

masteron has a little affinity to SHBG from what ive read and my personal experience that it 'amplifie's test it feels like (almost like proviron) that means bound estrogen and test become free, which can be good and bad.

might be better asking for people who are using the same stuff with your batch# to see what they think instead of looking for a testing lab as it sounds like you are having tough time locating. I think its a good idea but not sure if you will get anywhere.

maybe there are oversea labs that can test?

 

[taslajrisi]

bruce

Like you, my two favorites are masteron and primobolan. I always wonder about legitimacy of especially primo because its weaker, expensive and easy to substitute another cheaper stronger aas.....sort of sucks. I guess it goes back to the source as usual. One thing you can do is use proviron rather than mast because schering pv is easy to get and never faked. I would like to hear others take on primobolan like which brand is best or legit.

 

[anabolicbruce]

Thanks for the detailed response. That seems like a good hypothesis regarding the increase of free T and E2 from the SHBG decreasing properties of Masteron. I did start arimidex last week, so hopefully this may help if this is the case.

My labs one week prior to my cycle were as follows;

Total Testoterone: 850ng
Estradiol: 25ng
Progesterone: >2
LH: nil
DHT: 90IGF-1: 334ng

This isnt a complete lab report, just a F/U i got at a my urologist office. He didnt put down free-T, which i asked him to. I am scheduled to get more labs soon. I figure 100mg/week of nandrolone shouldnt pose a problem with progesterone. Out of all the dudes we monitor via labs who are on nandrolone, rarely do we find progesterone/gyno issues. Who know with me though as everyone is different.

I have been on TRT for 3+ years and have never had estrogen issues, always tested low. I keep my T levels at acceptable ranges (between 650ng-1000ng).

It sucks that so many UGL-fakes are out there. I figure i shouldnt even be havng this conversation if people were honest and our govnt didnt fuck with us regarding medications which enhance our health and drive. if they went after cigarette companies with the same tenacity then lung cancer would be reduced significantly...assholes. If I want real masteron i should be able to take it with confidance....ok...enough with the ranting.

Is it ok to post batch #s on this foruM??

 

[vadim_b1]

there is human grade primo that one of sponsors here carries (Euroking), and its guaranteed to be 100% legit. Give it a shot.

 

[anabolicbruce]

I checked out the site, looks good. thanks for the lead bro!

I also looked at the gen-shi stuff, how is the feedback on that?

 

[kasir]

I'm not going to comment on Balkan's products, because if I don't have anything good to say I'd rather not say it. But I will say that there are a number of UG labs that put out high quality gear that is not only dosed accurately with the correct compound, but it doesn't hurt either. If you experience painful injections from a UG lab's products, you should be using a different lab. Plain and simple, bro.

Does your company or the compound pharms it uses send out their products for testing accuracy? Try to find out and set up an outside account with the facility. And you should have kept those bags, bro. Wasted gear like that is heartbreaking.