Bridging AAS cycle

Techy · Dec 4, 2006

I'm thinking of bridging my AAS cycles with some peptides. The gains are slow but supposedly permanent right? Reading about all the different peptides has confused the hell out of me but so far it looks to me that doing it with HGH and PEG MGF or IGF-LR3. Does this make sense? Please help me out here guys!

Techy · Dec 4, 2006

Come on guys, I know someone can help me out here a little. Bridge with HGH & PEG MGF, or with HGH & IGF LR3? Are these the best peptides to use for this?

km2000 · Dec 4, 2006

Techy said:
I'm thinking of bridging my AAS cycles with some peptides. The gains are slow but supposedly permanent right? Reading about all the different peptides has confused the hell out of me but so far it looks to me that doing it with HGH and PEG MGF or IGF-LR3. Does this make sense? Please help me out here guys!

you ask a very broad question bro. if we all knew what was best this board wouldnt exist, NO gains are permanent! you need to do some reading on this subject to understand how muscle mass is created through new inervations and then maintained with proper diet and enuf resistance training to create a stimulis. Its not all about the gear! I would do a search and try to understand how and why hgh and igf work, IMO you are wasting your money taking the igf and hgh with no androgens. get off the gear, do pct, wait a few mo. get blood work done and when test levels are back to normal get back on. it pretty simple

Armageddon · Dec 4, 2006

Bridges are made to cross bodies of water and gully's alnog highways. With that being said your either on or your off. End of story. Stop making things difficult for yourself.

Qwert · Dec 4, 2006

I'm on HRT so technically I never come off. However, a great none AAS bridge would be GH, IGF & humalog. I do it this way.

1) 5iu GH 2x a day.

2) 50mcg IGF post workout.

3) 5iu Humalog 2x a week post workout.

4) 50mcg T4

This really helps you keep gains, get leaner as well. Mind you, your workout & diet have to be on the ball as well, or you might as well forget it.

Techy · Dec 4, 2006

Qwert said:
I'm on HRT so technically I never come off. However, a great none AAS bridge would be GH, IGF & humalog. I do it this way.

1) 5iu GH 2x a day.

2) 50mcg IGF post workout.

3) 5iu Humalog 2x a week post workout.

4) 50mcg T4

This really helps you keep gains, get leaner as well. Mind you, your workout & diet have to be on the ball as well, or you might as well forget it.

Thank you Qwert, I really appreciate the input bro. That is exactly what I was asking. And guys I know that no gains are "permenant". I know your diet and training have to be on to keep gains, but what I have read the gains you get from HGH and other peptides won't disappear as fast as when you come off gear.

mrjacked · Dec 4, 2006

im with km2000,NO gains are permanent

km2000 · Dec 4, 2006

Techy said:
Thank you Qwert, I really appreciate the input bro. That is exactly what I was asking. And guys I know that no gains are "permenant". I know your diet and training have to be on to keep gains, but what I have read the gains you get from HGH and other peptides won't disappear as fast as when you come off gear.

you would have to define "gains" if you are talking about water weight? then yes you wont retain as much water on a peptide cycle so you wont lose any when you come off. armagedon said it straight bridge are made to cross bodys of water, dont make it dificult on yourself bro.

Techy · Dec 4, 2006

I'm not trying to make it difficult on myself, quite the opposite. That's why I am on here every night I can be reading through posts that the Vets have put on here. After all my hard work and when I finish my PCT, I just don't want my hard earned gains to fade away while I'm waiting to do my next cycle. Just trying to learn as much as I can to benefit myself bro. And I read a post that lead me to believe that I may could benefit from peptides.

bio labs · Dec 5, 2006

Techy said:
I'm not trying to make it difficult on myself, quite the opposite. That's why I am on here every night I can be reading through posts that the Vets have put on here. After all my hard work and when I finish my PCT, I just don't want my hard earned gains to fade away while I'm waiting to do my next cycle. Just trying to learn as much as I can to benefit myself bro. And I read a post that lead me to believe that I may could benefit from peptides.

If it helps TECHY, I never come off completely.

I will bulk for 6-8 weeks and train DOGGCRAP style during this time.

Then I will stop injections for 2-3 weeks but I am not off because the EQ and Testosterone is still in my body for about 3-4 weeks.

During these 2-3 weeks I take in less protien and give my body time to recover in the joints from heavy lifting. Straight sets in the gym with normal high volume training that the masses of people do.

Then its right back on again and back to the other training style.

Techy · Dec 5, 2006

Hey thanks for the input B, it does help. I was planning on doing long cycles. I'm trying to go by Big A's article "Growth Principles for Beginners". He says that he don't believe in set time limits for cycles, just listen to your body and monitor your growth. And a 3 or 4 week break sounds good to me, I just want to be safe ya know.

Vespa103 · Dec 5, 2006

I have to agree with Bio just cut it down if your at the point your looking at peptides just stay on

Techy · Dec 5, 2006

Really my only fear about not coming off is that when I eventully do come off for whatever reason, my endogenus test will be ruined then I'll be on HRT for the rest of my life. But maybe that won't be a bad thing. I'm still going to give peptides a shot eventually, just trying to figure out which ones to try.

bio labs · Dec 5, 2006

Techy said:
Really my only fear about not coming off is that when I eventully do come off for whatever reason, my endogenus test will be ruined then I'll be on HRT for the rest of my life. But maybe that won't be a bad thing. I'm still going to give peptides a shot eventually, just trying to figure out which ones to try.

OK READY TECHY?

AFTER BEING ON FOR 4 YEARS STRAIGHT I DECIDED TO COME OFF.

HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED.

IT TOOK 5 MONTHS FOR MY NUTS TO COME BACK TO NORMAL SIZE.

BUT, GUESS WHAT, THEY CAME BACK AND SO DID MY BODY PRODUCING ITS TESTOSTERONE.

I LOST ABOUT 30LBS OF MUSCLE AND HAD NO DESIRE TO EVEN GO TO THE GYM OR EAT CORRECTLY.

I PREFERED TO HAVE A FEW BEERS.

BASICALLY, MENTALLY I WAS A MESS WHEN OFF STEROIDS AND OUT OF THE GYM.

I WAS JUST A NORMAL GUY DESTROYING HIS BODY WITH LEGAL DRUGS LIKE BEER, WINE AND SMOKING A PAK A DAY AND WORKING MY ASS OFF AND USING STRESS MAKERS LIKE SMOKING AS A STRESS RELEIVER. THIS WAS A BIG TURNING POINT IN MY LIFE HERE.

SO HERE IS HOW I SEE IT.

TAKE STEROIDS, DRINK A SHIT LOAD OF WATER, TRAIN 3-4 DAYS A WEEK WITH WEIGHTS AND FUCK MY WIFE LIKE CRAZY FOR CARDIO 3 DAYS A WEEK, DO NOT TOUCH BEER OR SMOKE BECAUSE THERE IS NO DESIRE AND I KNOW ITS GOING TO EFFECT MY TRAINING.

OR

SMOKE, DRINK AND LOOK AND FEEL LIKE SHIT JUST SO I CAN HAVE BIG NUTS EVERY DAY.

SO I CHOOSE THE BETTER OF THE 2 EVILS SO TO SPEAK.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DO NOT ABUSE STEROIDS, I MEAN 5G TEST A WEEK WITH 500MG DROL PER DAY , SICK COMPOUNDS, THE HEALTH RISKS ARE JUST AS COMMON AS THE OCCASIONAL DRINKER OR SMOKER, I MEAN THE PERSON WHO GOES OUT 1 DAY A WEEK AND GETS TRASHED AND SMOKES 1 PAK OF MARLBORO AND DRINKS 10 SHOTS OF WHISKEY.

MAYBE THAT IS A BAD EXPLANATION

BUT IT IS BASICALLY WHAT HAPPNED TO ME AND MY QUICK THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE TECHY

Techy · Dec 5, 2006

LOL, thanks B. Your input is greatly appreciated my friend!

Grunt76 · Dec 5, 2006

Add pMGF to your IGF-1, you will not regret it. You will *LOVE* that stuff I swear.

HELLA SWOLE · Dec 5, 2006

bio labs said:
OK READY TECHY?

AFTER BEING ON FOR 4 YEARS STRAIGHT I DECIDED TO COME OFF.

HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED.

IT TOOK 5 MONTHS FOR MY NUTS TO COME BACK TO NORMAL SIZE.

BUT, GUESS WHAT, THEY CAME BACK AND SO DID MY BODY PRODUCING ITS TESTOSTERONE.

I LOST ABOUT 30LBS OF MUSCLE AND HAD NO DESIRE TO EVEN GO TO THE GYM OR EAT CORRECTLY.

I PREFERED TO HAVE A FEW BEERS.

BASICALLY, MENTALLY I WAS A MESS WHEN OFF STEROIDS AND OUT OF THE GYM.

I WAS JUST A NORMAL GUY DESTROYING HIS BODY WITH LEGAL DRUGS LIKE BEER, WINE AND SMOKING A PAK A DAY AND WORKING MY ASS OFF AND USING STRESS MAKERS LIKE SMOKING AS A STRESS RELEIVER. THIS WAS A BIG TURNING POINT IN MY LIFE HERE.

SO HERE IS HOW I SEE IT.

TAKE STEROIDS, DRINK A SHIT LOAD OF WATER, TRAIN 3-4 DAYS A WEEK WITH WEIGHTS AND FUCK MY WIFE LIKE CRAZY FOR CARDIO 3 DAYS A WEEK, DO NOT TOUCH BEER OR SMOKE BECAUSE THERE IS NO DESIRE AND I KNOW ITS GOING TO EFFECT MY TRAINING.

OR

SMOKE, DRINK AND LOOK AND FEEL LIKE SHIT JUST SO I CAN HAVE BIG NUTS EVERY DAY.

SO I CHOOSE THE BETTER OF THE 2 EVILS SO TO SPEAK.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DO NOT ABUSE STEROIDS, I MEAN 5G TEST A WEEK WITH 500MG DROL PER DAY , SICK COMPOUNDS, THE HEALTH RISKS ARE JUST AS COMMON AS THE OCCASIONAL DRINKER OR SMOKER, I MEAN THE PERSON WHO GOES OUT 1 DAY A WEEK AND GETS TRASHED AND SMOKES 1 PAK OF MARLBORO AND DRINKS 10 SHOTS OF WHISKEY.

MAYBE THAT IS A BAD EXPLANATION BUT IT IS BASICALLY WHAT HAPPNED TO ME AND MY QUICK THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE TECHY

I Hope you don't mind me asking, but I am curious if you were able to have kids after coming off, or if you didn't want any or whatver, if you maybe had an analysis done of your sperm to see if your body was producing it still? I ask completely out of curiosity. I wouldn't care if I was on HRT forever, but I would care if I wasn't able to reproduce in the future....THanks in advance for the input.

Techy · Dec 5, 2006

Grunt76 said:
Add pMGF to your IGF-1, you will not regret it. You will *LOVE* that stuff I swear.

Hey Grunt, I've been reading alot of posts by you and thegame, and Gavin Kane, good stuff man! I'm going to add HGH and PEG MGF into my cycle soon. So you can add IGF LR3 to that as well?

dr.tooth · Dec 5, 2006

never come of hgh and bridge your cycles with insulin, depending on your size 6-8 units postworkout should definitely keep the weight up, as advised above go a little lighter in your training and keep your diet as clean as possible

Techy · Dec 5, 2006

One more question guys. Looking to get some HGH from a board sponsor, trying to decide who to use. Any suggestions? Also is it safe to order express from China? I read people were having DHL problems a few months ago. Does propeptides ship domestic?