broke and could get tested

[alan1973]

Guys,
I have cycled only with orals (actually, only one real cycle). why, they are cheap and require no PCT.
I want to compete next december and I have a high chance of getting tested for this "natural" event (this is Japan, they are all tested for all stuff).

I would like a regimen that will kick me into high gear but lets try to gear the sides down. I must be able to test clean for the comp.
I am just 6' 230lbs. my body fat has already dropped from about 27 to 23% and I am steadily burning off the fat since my diet and training is pretty much in check. My weight is steady though so I expect to compete at around 210lbs. but I have always had a bit around the waist since I was 12 and I am 33 now.
I gotta get off the winny cuz it is draining me no matter how much water I drink and my joint issues are only kept in check via scripted NSAIDs.
I saw my first comp and realize that orals are not the way to go anymore.
I was gonna hit testE and EQ this winter with the usual PCT, but I would like a plan for the year. the cycle costs only $200 about for 4 months so that I think is a good deal.
also, if anyone has a journal I can view as to how I should prep the last few months that would help too.
any help would be appreciated and if you need more info, just ask!

 

[BiggerStronger]

hmm....besides the ethical reasons of not using gear for a "clean" show. I see that you need to study up on AAS. You still need to do PCT even for oral only cycles. They are hormones none the less and still cause a system crash so to speak. You need to re-evaluate your reasons for doing this show if it's going to be a fraud. (hmm...maybe shows are different over there and everyone who competes uses???...I dunno.)

I would expect to come in at a lot smaller than 210 if you're at 27% right now. Maybe 180-190 to come in close to competition condition. (which is between 4-6% BF depending on your genetics.)

 

[alan1973]

hmm....besides the ethical reasons of not using gear for a "clean" show. I see that you need to study up on AAS. You still need to do PCT even for oral only cycles. They are hormones none the less and still cause a system crash so to speak. You need to re-evaluate your reasons for doing this show if it's going to be a fraud. (hmm...maybe shows are different over there and everyone who competes uses???...I dunno.)

I would expect to come in at a lot smaller than 210 if you're at 27% right now. Maybe 180-190 to come in close to competition condition. (which is between 4-6% BF depending on your genetics.)

you really think Winny and anavar require PCT? (yeah, that is my only oral cycle)
c'mon, I know guys are doing it and doing a great job of timing then drugs too. I would just like input.
I remember hearing a story about a guy from Ma. that his father was buying the stuff for him and setting up his routine so he could compete in the local "natural" comps. he would gain a lot then lose a lot, but the lean mass left over before comp time was nice!

 

[Train]

you really think Winny and anavar require PCT? (yeah, that is my only oral cycle)
c'mon, I know guys are doing it and doing a great job of timing then drugs too. I would just like input.
I remember hearing a story about a guy from Ma. that his father was buying the stuff for him and setting up his routine so he could compete in the local "natural" comps. he would gain a lot then lose a lot, but the lean mass left over before comp time was nice!

You dont need PCT for those drugs. People will tell me Im wrong, but this is one of those recent fads that bugs me. I never used PCT for those roids. Nobody I know ever felt they needed to until there was all this liquid shit everywhere that you could get 'legally' and everyone and their mom was making money on PCT. You dont need it. You just dont.

That said, you can do it if you want to. Wont hurt.

I doubt the winny is draining you like that.

Beyond that, I dont understand your question. If you want to boost test levels naturally, there are a thousand shmoes out there who will sell you some nonsense to do that.

What are you asking????

Tt

 

[Crowler]

I find your sig ironic when you are asking how to pass a drug test so you can compete as a natural.


CROWLER

 

[alan1973]

I find your sig ironic when you are asking how to pass a drug test so you can compete as a natural.


CROWLER

so, how many folks do you think that complete naturally have never touched the stuff?

I just went to a "natural" contest and there is no way some of those folks (the ones that won) were always natural. if this is what I am going to go against, I will play their game.
I know what you are saying, but sometimes integrity ain't worth shit if it screws you. (I learned that in the Air Force) I have very few opportunities here in japan to even compete (especiallly in this area). I gotta take what i can get.