broscience logic question

[slesh]

i am currently running 8 ius of nd blues a day along with 100mgs of winny a day. and cruising on ~125mgs of test e a week.

i feel like a 70 year old man. it's a struggle to get off the couch. not complaining cause i'm looking solid. but here's my question: if growth inflames the joints with the water causing soreness and winny dries the joints, shouldn't they cancel each other out. pure broscience. but would love to hear some thoughts.

 

[maldorf]

i am currently running 8 ius of nd blues a day along with 100mgs of winny a day. and cruising on ~125mgs of test e a week.

i feel like a 70 year old man. it's a struggle to get off the couch. not complaining cause i'm looking solid. but here's my question: if growth inflames the joints with the water causing soreness and winny dries the joints, shouldn't they cancel each other out. pure broscience. but would love to hear some thoughts.

I know that from my experience when i first started out with GH my joints were sore all the time, particularly my knees. Once I dropped the dose down that went away. I also had significant Carpal tunnel pains. THe winstrol also seemed to make my joints hurt so I am not surprised that youre having pains when taking those 2. If I were you I would drop the dose down of the GH first and see how you feel after 1 week. If the pain persists then drop the winny down and go from there. That is indeed broscience!

 

[turbobusa]

Good advice there. I had to find my"sweet spot" with the gh. For me on rips it is 3iu maybe 4 day. Serostim 2iu maybe 3. I had all the same stuff going on hands and feet hurt couldn't make a tight fist really tired feeling. 8iu I am sure would put mt right back there. I am older and I think my tolerance (as far as sides ) is less than say 10-15 yrs ago. Good luck , T

 

[KlingonFromUranus]

Slesh you should feel lucky maldorf and turbousa posted in your thread. Two solid posts from ttwo solid posters.

When you says you're having problems getting off the couch I assume you mean either you're experiencing lethargy or are having painful joints. Winny gets me lethargic at higher doses afterr a month or so. You're running a high dose imho. By the end of cycle I can barely drag myself to gym do my routine and go home. I also experienced painful joints the first two months I was on gh. No doubt winny would exacerbate this. I even started low at 2iu a day and still had this. It might be unavoidable except to back down off those doses, let your body reacclimate then slowly ramp up.

 

[slesh]

Slesh you should feel lucky maldorf and turbousa posted in your thread. Two solid posts from ttwo solid posters.

When you says you're having problems getting off the couch I assume you mean either you're experiencing lethargy or are having painful joints. Winny gets me lethargic at higher doses afterr a month or so. You're running a high dose imho. By the end of cycle I can barely drag myself to gym do my routine and go home. I also experienced painful joints the first two months I was on gh. No doubt winny would exacerbate this. I even started low at 2iu a day and still had this. It might be unavoidable except to back down off those doses, let your body reacclimate then slowly ramp up.

not tired at all. i actually did ramp up slowly. started at 2iu a day. did that for about 3 weeks. jumped to 4 for a few weeks. got to 6 and still didn't feel much. so i went to 8 and thats when i started to feel the sides.

 

[aussiebulldog]

broscience and logic in the same sentence...... well sometimes..

Meldorf's advice , as usual is solid.

 

[maldorf]

not tired at all. i actually did ramp up slowly. started at 2iu a day. did that for about 3 weeks. jumped to 4 for a few weeks. got to 6 and still didn't feel much. so i went to 8 and thats when i started to feel the sides.

You weny up rather fast IMO. Sounds like 6IU might work for you so drop down to that and see if you dont feel better in a week or so. Were you also on the 100 mg/day winstrol when you were ok on the 6 IU/day?

 

[MightyJohn]

When My labrats have run, winny it makes them feel like an old man jointwise, within days, to the point they're scared to train heavy, NOTHING seems to cancel out or even help that joint pain whenever winny is in the equation