bulking on tren

[Brock456]

This 100% Luki.
Test + Dec or NPP or something to that affect is a mass builder. THis is to GROW the muscle.
TREN, IMO, shows that muscle off really well. It might not be the best mass builder, but when u HAVE that muscle, it showcases it very nicely.

I really wish I could take Deca bc I’m a hard gainer but that shit just kills my sex drive, can barely get it up with viagra

 

[b-boy]

@tenny .....man I've missed you!

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I really wish I could take Deca bc I’m a hard gainer but that shit just kills my sex drive, can barely get it up with viagra

I know lots of guys, myslef included, who use a DHT to combat it whatever libido issues come along with it.
My first couple runs with Deca and NPP were shit in that department, but...from this board, i had received the recommendation to run a decent dose to Masteron or at least 50mg+ of Proviron with it and it honestly was a game changer for me. It helps the LOOK too. Keeps some of the water off of Deca.

 

[beastmode121]

Tren, test and MK with GH is the best combo. Keeps you lean and full

and of course food

 

[Freak Monster]

I really wish I could take Deca bc I’m a hard gainer but that shit just kills my sex drive, can barely get it up with viagra

When do a ccycle with deca try to use masteron E and proviron and you will fell like a 18 years old kid

 

[Brock456]

I know lots of guys, myslef included, who use a DHT to combat it whatever libido issues come along with it.
My first couple runs with Deca and NPP were shit in that department, but...from this board, i had received the recommendation to run a decent dose to Masteron or at least 50mg+ of Proviron with it and it honestly was a game changer for me. It helps the LOOK too. Keeps some of the water off of Deca.

When do a ccycle with deca try to use masteron E and proviron and you will fell like a 18 years old kid

yeah? How much masteron would you run with say 500mg deca?
Looking to run Test, EQ, DHB. Was going to run Tren with it but from this thread looking to add more size so Deca might be better. Maybe I’ll add that in with masteron

 

[GreenTLB6]

yeah? How much masteron would you run with say 500mg deca?
Looking to run Test, EQ, DHB. Was going to run Tren with it but from this thread looking to add more size so Deca might be better. Maybe I’ll add that in with masteron

300mg masteron with that dose of deca.

 

[jaxino]

yeah? How much masteron would you run with say 500mg deca?
Looking to run Test, EQ, DHB. Was going to run Tren with it but from this thread looking to add more size so Deca might be better. Maybe I’ll add that in with masteron

You are more advanced than me for sure but why don't you switch between NPP and TrenAce?

Let's say that your base is: 1g T 500 DHB (just throwing numbers)

Then: 700 NPP until you look too soft, since it's summer and you want to look harder then you switch to 700 TrenAce (radom doses here)

I would not stack EQ and DHB, just use one or the other and i think that DHB is a beast against EQ, if your goal is to improve eritropoiesis, just add Melanotan II before bed, does a very good job in the department, you get tan, improve Insulin sensitivity and get better endurance (higher rbc, hematocrit,. hemoglobin).

 

[jaxino]

You can even make your dose of Test with TestEn + TestPp or TestProp do you con drop more water fast.....

 

[cmryan]

if your goal is to improve eritropoiesis, just add Melanotan II before bed, does a very good job in the department, you get tan, improve Insulin sensitivity and get better endurance (higher rbc, hematocrit,. hemoglobin).

Until you’re complexion is mahogany or you have 10x the moles and freckles lol. I’m mostly kidding but i do wish there was a drug that had all the effects of MT-2 minus the tanning. As a type one on the Fitzpatrick scale, any change in complexion is very noticeable (and strange to see in the mirror) and I usually develop new freckles with even brief use of it.

 

[GreenTLB6]

You are more advanced than me for sure but why don't you switch between NPP and TrenAce?

Let's say that your base is: 1g T 500 DHB (just throwing numbers)

Then: 700 NPP until you look too soft, since it's summer and you want to look harder then you switch to 700 TrenAce (radom doses here)

I would not stack EQ and DHB, just use one or the other and i think that DHB is a beast against EQ, if your goal is to improve eritropoiesis, just add Melanotan II before bed, does a very good job in the department, you get tan, improve Insulin sensitivity and get better endurance (higher rbc, hematocrit,. hemoglobin).

Agreed on last paragraph. If you want to add deca (I would use NPP in this scenario) for added size before cleaning it up I’d skip the EQ bc it just doesn’t add much with all that other stuff.

Test
NPP
DHB (or EQ)
Mast

then switch npp to tren ace when it’s time to clean up.

 

[jaxino]

Until you’re complexion is mahogany or you have 10x the moles and freckles lol. I’m mostly kidding but i do wish there was a drug that had all the effects of MT-2 minus the tanning. As a type one on the Fitzpatrick scale, any change in complexion is very noticeable (and strange to see in the mirror) and I usually develop new freckles with even brief use of it.

Usually i use MT-II until i start seeing some darkness on my eye bags.... Then it's time to stop it.

But i am a type 2-3 on a Fitzpatrick scale, i am Italian from the north but i tend to get tanned very easily.... even EQ makes me tanned a bit.

 

[jaxino]

Agreed on last paragraph. If you want to add deca (I would use NPP in this scenario) for added size before cleaning it up I’d skip the EQ bc it just doesn’t add much with all that other stuff.

Test
NPP
DHB (or EQ)
Mast

then switch npp to tren ace when it’s time to clean up.

Basically what i said but wrote in a better way!

 

[Brock456]

You are more advanced than me for sure but why don't you switch between NPP and TrenAce?

Let's say that your base is: 1g T 500 DHB (just throwing numbers)

Then: 700 NPP until you look too soft, since it's summer and you want to look harder then you switch to 700 TrenAce (radom doses here)

I would not stack EQ and DHB, just use one or the other and i think that DHB is a beast against EQ, if your goal is to improve eritropoiesis, just add Melanotan II before bed, does a very good job in the department, you get tan, improve Insulin sensitivity and get better endurance (higher rbc, hematocrit,. hemoglobin).

Agreed on last paragraph. If you want to add deca (I would use NPP in this scenario) for added size before cleaning it up I’d skip the EQ bc it just doesn’t add much with all that other stuff.

Test
NPP
DHB (or EQ)
Mast

then switch npp to tren ace when it’s time to clean up.

I thought there was some synergy with EQ and DHB. I know they are similar though. I agree DHB is 4x stronger.

I actually like that. Why NPP over Deca though?

Thanks for the help and sorry to hijack this thread.

 

[GreenTLB6]

I thought there was some synergy with EQ and DHB. I know they are similar though. I agree DHB is 4x stronger.

I actually like that. Why NPP over Deca though?

Thanks for the help and sorry to hijack this thread.

I just don’t see that synergy. On paper it looks like adding drugs ‘just to add drugs’ when you could just run one or the other. There’s just a lot going on with that cycle and if your set on DHB I just wouldn’t add the EQ. I think NPP compliments EQ better.

I just like that NPP is in and out. Deca will linger longer and if you pull deca and add a fast acting Tren ace you’ll have overlap = possible prolactin issues.

I’m more simple with my cycles (off season and pre contest).

if you want to add size...
Test
NPP
EQ (or Primo)
I like primo better with NPP - stay a little harder.

when you want to look good or pre contest
Test
Primo (or EQ)
Tren
Mast

I’d pull the primo or EQ when adding in orals in pre contest (4-6 weeks out) bc it’s just more drugs and EQ does aromatize a touch. Orals will more than make up what you lose from the primo or EQ (winny and/or Var)

 

[GreenTLB6]

^ sorry about derailed thread.
Back to bulking on Tren.

 

[cmryan]

Usually i use MT-II until i start seeing some darkness on my eye bags.... Then it's time to stop it.

I've only ever used a single 2mg vial at a time before taking a break. I get visibly darker (people ask where I've been) and that's making zero effort to tan lol. I may try to push it a bit this year and see how well it can impact my hgb numbers though.

But i am a type 2-3 on a Fitzpatrick scale, i am Italian from the north but i tend to get tanned very easily.... even EQ makes me tanned a bit.

I have some Italian ancestry (and Middle Eastern too) but any and all tanning ability got lost in the genetic shuffle. Any time I get too much sun without sunscreen (which isn't much) I'll always have a mild to not so mild burn. My brother by contrast develops a nice (almost olive) tan any time he gets a good amount of sunshine.

Edit: sorry for the tangent. Back to tren.

 

[Brock456]

I just don’t see that synergy. On paper it looks like adding drugs ‘just to add drugs’ when you could just run one or the other. There’s just a lot going on with that cycle and if your set on DHB I just wouldn’t add the EQ. I think NPP compliments EQ better.

I just like that NPP is in and out. Deca will linger longer and if you pull deca and add a fast acting Tren ace you’ll have overlap = possible prolactin issues.

I’m more simple with my cycles (off season and pre contest).

if you want to add size...
Test
NPP
EQ (or Primo)
I like primo better with NPP - stay a little harder.

when you want to look good or pre contest
Test
Primo (or EQ)
Tren
Mast

I’d pull the primo or EQ when adding in orals in pre contest (4-6 weeks out) bc it’s just more drugs and EQ does aromatize a touch. Orals will more than make up what you lose from the primo or EQ (winny and/or Var)

I like this. Thanks for explaining.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I just don’t see that synergy. On paper it looks like adding drugs ‘just to add drugs’ when you could just run one or the other. There’s just a lot going on with that cycle and if your set on DHB I just wouldn’t add the EQ. I think NPP compliments EQ better.

I just like that NPP is in and out. Deca will linger longer and if you pull deca and add a fast acting Tren ace you’ll have overlap = possible prolactin issues.

I’m more simple with my cycles (off season and pre contest).

if you want to add size...
Test
NPP
EQ (or Primo)
I like primo better with NPP - stay a little harder.

when you want to look good or pre contest
Test
Primo (or EQ)
Tren
Mast

I’d pull the primo or EQ when adding in orals in pre contest (4-6 weeks out) bc it’s just more drugs and EQ does aromatize a touch. Orals will more than make up what you lose from the primo or EQ (winny and/or Var)

100% Those are great blasts.

 

[Brock456]

I just don’t see that synergy. On paper it looks like adding drugs ‘just to add drugs’ when you could just run one or the other. There’s just a lot going on with that cycle and if your set on DHB I just wouldn’t add the EQ. I think NPP compliments EQ better.

I just like that NPP is in and out. Deca will linger longer and if you pull deca and add a fast acting Tren ace you’ll have overlap = possible prolactin issues.

I’m more simple with my cycles (off season and pre contest).

if you want to add size...
Test
NPP
EQ (or Primo)
I like primo better with NPP - stay a little harder.

when you want to look good or pre contest
Test
Primo (or EQ)
Tren
Mast

I’d pull the primo or EQ when adding in orals in pre contest (4-6 weeks out) bc it’s just more drugs and EQ does aromatize a touch. Orals will more than make up what you lose from the primo or EQ (winny and/or Var)

100% Those are great blasts.

Ok one more question. And maybe we can move this to the thread I started for Summer Blast.

you like EQ or primo for adding size? I ran a Test Primo blast with Primo at 600mg and wasn’t too impressed, definitely leaned out but didn’t like it for bulking.

EQ I have taken in the past and definitely added size over 14 weeks. But my hematocrit runs like 47-48 normally so EQ jacks that up.

I like the Test, NPP, Mast (to counter the deca issues) and then either EQ, Primo, or DHB....