Calcium score ct

[IFBB Pro2103]

You’re on 3 statins or you transitioned to them ?

Transitioned. Only on one

 

[Othello]

HGH lowers arterial calcification.

is this true?

source?

 

[xpoc]

is this true?

source?

right... bold claim. would like to verify. could be a game changer if PROVEN to be true.

 

[Black Beard]

Quick google search guys, lmfao

 

[Reno911]

Quick google search guys, lmfao

So if I google it, I get one study. Wow, earthshaking. Thanks!

Regulation of Vascular Calcification by Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone and its Agonists

Vascular calcification (VC) is a marker of the severity of atherosclerotic disease. Hormones play important roles in regulating calcification; estrogen and parathyroid hormones exert opposing effects, the former alleviating VC and the latter exacerbating ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[beastmode121]

A statin, a beta blocker and BP med either an ARB OR AN ACEI are a must for bodybuilders on PED.. who cruise and blast few times a year.

I take atenolol, telmisartin and simvastatin
All of these are cardio protective + aspirin or plavix.

i don’t understand the “lipid supplements” or “BP supplements” that bodybuilders take.. you’ll be facing a rude awakening soon

 

[Othello]

lipid supplements

not even citrus bergamot?

 

[Othello]

So if I google it, I get one study. Wow, earthshaking. Thanks!

Regulation of Vascular Calcification by Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone and its Agonists

Vascular calcification (VC) is a marker of the severity of atherosclerotic disease. Hormones play important roles in regulating calcification; estrogen and parathyroid hormones exert opposing effects, the former alleviating VC and the latter exacerbating ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

cracks me up how 'studies' done on 'transgender young adult tasmanian mice from the victorian era with (this/that) gene mutation, incubated at this level of pressure whilst flown at such and such altitude'


have any

FUCKING

relevance to humans

 

[xpoc]

not even citrus bergamot?

i took this for about 6 months and had no change to my lipids. so i dumped it.

 

[beastmode121]

not even citrus bergamot?

Hell no.. you’re gambling with your life

 

[Othello]

you’ll be facing a rude awakening soon

you’re gambling with your life

lol why you being the harbinger of doom all of a sudden

 

[Black Beard]

So if I google it, I get one study. Wow, earthshaking. Thanks!

Regulation of Vascular Calcification by Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone and its Agonists

Vascular calcification (VC) is a marker of the severity of atherosclerotic disease. Hormones play important roles in regulating calcification; estrogen and parathyroid hormones exert opposing effects, the former alleviating VC and the latter exacerbating ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Google "HGH atherosclerosis" there is a ton of data.

Laymen dont usually know the proper terms to search, not your fault.

 

[Reno911]

Google "HGH atherosclerosis" there is a ton of data.

Laymen dont usually know the proper terms to search, not your fault.

Thanks Buddy. You= God Me= Dog

There's info out there with persons with growth hormone deficiency and hypopituitary patients.


Maybe you can point the rest of us "laymen" in the correct direction as it would apply to persons without a growth hormone deficiency.

TIA

 

[Black Beard]

Thanks Buddy. You= God Me= Dog

There's info out there with persons with growth hormone deficiency and hypopituitary patients.


Maybe you can point the rest of us "laymen" in the correct direction as it would apply to persons without a growth hormone deficiency.

TIA

There are many many studies and it's called extrapolation of data.

 

[Othello]

There are many many studies and it's called extrapolation of data.

if this was the case, no ifbb pro would have atherosclerosis lol

 

[Black Beard]

if this was the case, no ifbb pro would have atherosclerosis lol

Nobody said it was a cure; too much of anything is bad. Thyroid hormone, especially T3 is also slows down/helps prevent atherosclerosis, but too much is also detrimental.

 

[seymoor77]

Slowing down is one thing - reversing is completely different

 

[LEX]

The future is Coronary CTA with AI analysis. The only way to see how much TOTAL atherosclerosis you have. Tony Robbins talks about it in his new book, his comany offers it and you will hear more and more about it. CAC is damn near worthless. Think about seeing an iceburg from the surface, and the really dangerous shit is all underwater. Thats your CAC test. My CAC was zero yet I have way more soft plaque that I would like and or any other normal lab value would suggest.

 

[Othello]

say you have Antoine Vaillant who has some atherosclerosis


could he not just keep competing, keep an eye on it's progression, and if it progresses too far, could he not simply get stents placed, and keep on with the lifestyle?

what sorts of complications would ensue?

 

[NEMSZ]

The future is Coronary CTA with AI analysis. The only way to see how much TOTAL atherosclerosis you have. Tony Robbins talks about it in his new book, his comany offers it and you will hear more and more about it. CAC is damn near worthless. Think about seeing an iceburg from the surface, and the really dangerous shit is all underwater. Thats your CAC test. My CAC was zero yet I have way more soft plaque that I would like and or any other normal lab value would suggest.

How do you get something like that done without an actual good reason??

Doctors here in the US don’t believe in preventative medicine, they only care when you’ve got symptoms and are already fucked (basically)…

At 32 years old, with zero symptoms and family history I’d never be allowed to get this done unless some how, some way, like many lab tests you can just pay out of pocket without needing a doctor referral??