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im in my 4th year of college and i wrestle, season is coming in about a month or less and im subject to a steroid test/drug test. during the season im going to lose weight for sure but here is my question:

Is there anything i can take that wont show up in a athletic drug test?
im looking for somthing that can give me solid gains and help me keep my gains!

please tell me somthing that has worked for you or you know works.
Thanks.
 
FOOD! its the most anabolic compound on earth. food with the right supps like creatine will work wonders. dont start thinking drugs are the answer to this. take your body to its genetic max before you think about adding drugs to the mix.
 
I dunno your stats but probably 250mg of diet ED and you would be fine.

Just kiding man.

Give us your stats so we can help you out.
 
lol ive already used AAS before. im cycled off though so i can be safe to pass the athletic drug test.

Im 5'8 i weigh 210 lbs

Wrestling is high endurance and its usually about 3 hours in a room thats boiling so you sweat a assload and lose a great deal of weight. im going to try to preserve as much muscle as possible this year.

i was looking at a product called epistane and it says its legal and what not.
Also its got crazy product reviews.
 
there are lots of legal prohormono like epistane.

Also test suspension is supposed to leave the body fast like 12 hours or so.. so you would have to inject often but only need to wait a day or so to clean ur system. depending on if its a surprise test or a dated test.
 
there are lots of legal prohormono like epistane.

Also test suspension is supposed to leave the body fast like 12 hours or so.. so you would have to inject often but only need to wait a day or so to clean ur system. depending on if its a surprise test or a dated test.

thats awesome to know man thanks!

Does anyone know how long epistane stays in your system?
ive searched everywere for this and theres no info anywere!
 
I wrestled in college at a D-1 school. I initially stayed clean until i got a feel for the testing situation. We were subject to not only random NCAA testing, but our school tested us as well. We would be alerted at practice the night before and told to report to one of the locker rooms in the field house at 6am the next morning. After I got a little more involved in the program, I learned that the random test were not so random, and ended up using low doses of suspension. I was a hwt though so I didnt have to worry about cutting weight. The test kept my strength up but I wasnt able to take too much per week or risk throwing the T/E ration out of wack. This was in 1999, so testing may have changed a bit. If its your senior season you will want to way think about whether or not the small increase in performance is worth the possible fall out from pissing hot. To be honest, looking back on it, I dont think the amount to improvement you gain from such a small test boost is worth it. But I suppose I thought it was at the time. just keep your doses LOW and stick to a non estered test like suspension. Prohormones flag a test and break down into metabolites that may take longer to clear the body than you are able to allow. hope that helps
 
warlord has the right idea here. If you are able to have a short notice that a test is coming then test suspension maybe the way to go. don't forget that the T/E ratio must be within the normal range, usually 6:1, but sometimes 4:1. Also remeber that using any exogeneous test will also supress your bodies levels of epitestosterone. (HCG stimulates the production of both);) . If you are not given any prior notice of your test stick with GH until you know more about the designers and or prohormones. Some of these may show up as metabolites of other AAS. As of right now I dont think that epistane would be on the panel that they are using. Do your homework, find out which lab is adminstering the test and what they test for.
 
I wrestled in college at a D-1 school. I initially stayed clean until i got a feel for the testing situation. We were subject to not only random NCAA testing, but our school tested us as well. We would be alerted at practice the night before and told to report to one of the locker rooms in the field house at 6am the next morning. After I got a little more involved in the program, I learned that the random test were not so random, and ended up using low doses of suspension. I was a hwt though so I didnt have to worry about cutting weight. The test kept my strength up but I wasnt able to take too much per week or risk throwing the T/E ration out of wack. This was in 1999, so testing may have changed a bit. If its your senior season you will want to way think about whether or not the small increase in performance is worth the possible fall out from pissing hot. To be honest, looking back on it, I dont think the amount to improvement you gain from such a small test boost is worth it. But I suppose I thought it was at the time. just keep your doses LOW and stick to a non estered test like suspension. Prohormones flag a test and break down into metabolites that may take longer to clear the body than you are able to allow. hope that helps

Wow! thanks man! that really did help! im glad theres other wrestlers on this forum! last year i didnt get tested but this year im a lil more paranoid so i believe ill stay clean from the test since you said it didnt do a whole lot of improvement. And i dont think im going to risk the epistane cause it may make the test come back positive.... lol looks like im going to have to go back to the good ol creatine and protein combo and lots of food lol.
Thanks man!
 
warlord has the right idea here. If you are able to have a short notice that a test is coming then test suspension maybe the way to go. don't forget that the T/E ratio must be within the normal range, usually 6:1, but sometimes 4:1. Also remeber that using any exogeneous test will also supress your bodies levels of epitestosterone. (HCG stimulates the production of both);) . If you are not given any prior notice of your test stick with GH until you know more about the designers and or prohormones. Some of these may show up as metabolites of other AAS. As of right now I dont think that epistane would be on the panel that they are using. Do your homework, find out which lab is adminstering the test and what they test for.

hmm GH, now that is a thought

I love this board theres lots of wisdom on it!
Thanks bro!
 
Find a doctor that will prescribe it to you. That makes it legal and they cant say shit....even if you overdo your dose......just make sure you are taking the exact same thing the doctor prescribes (if he gives u test dont take deca)...


OR.....stick with a great multi, beta alanine, and preworkout supplements to boost performance and ultimately strength
 
Find a doctor that will prescribe it to you. That makes it legal and they cant say shit....even if you overdo your dose......just make sure you are taking the exact same thing the doctor prescribes (if he gives u test dont take deca)...


OR.....stick with a great multi, beta alanine, and preworkout supplements to boost performance and ultimately strength

lol i cant find a doc thatll do that and plus when the test comes back positive you have those immature assholes that say stuff like "you damn cheater your just like that cause your on steroids, you couldnt beat me if you werent on steroids" blah blah...god i hate those people....they dont realize that its not just the steroids its nutrition and training as well.

yea i may just have to stick to pre workout stuff like that. im thinkin about GH now though.
Thanks for the input bro!
 

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