Cardio

Derek · Feb 26, 2004

I have just started doing cardio. Doggcrapp says to do 30-45min 2times per week. Or ED if my goal is to burn fat.

Well on tuesday I did 30min of walking at 3.5 on the treadmill.. I burned about 200 cals. Kinda boring. Is this what cardio is supposed to be about. When I did cardio before I would do HIIT Cardio and that whiped my ass... Just wanted to know the logic of 30-45mins of moderate cardio. Its almost like a waste of time in my opinion.

Mr Pickels · Feb 26, 2004

the more intense your cardio the higher % of carbs you burn, the lower your intensity (40-60% of max HR) you burn almost 80% of the calories needed from fat

sounds kinda weird but it works... i cut my intensity down and i'm getting just as lean but i'm stronger

Derek · Feb 26, 2004

well with HIIT cardio you burn more carbs but it boosts your metabolism for hours.. even days I think...

Low impact cardio just burns caloris..

Im on a modified keto diet so I have no carbs to burn.

Mr Pickels · Feb 26, 2004

yes you're exactly correct.... the HIT your body will continue to burn fat for hours afterwards.....

i dunno what you wanna do then, its up to you

Derek · Feb 26, 2004

I know.. I train legs 1-2 times per week.. Im wondering if HIIT cardio will over train my legs...

DG said 30-45 mins moderate cardio so I will do that for now... Ill do 4.0 this time,

What do you guys use when you jump on the cardio machine?

rauljimenez · Feb 26, 2004

Derek bro I think you know the reason for doing cardio, to keep a little bit of fat off and enhance your heart, BP plus increase your appetite on a bulking cycle.

Crimson Ghost · Feb 26, 2004

I'm on a low carb diet too and just started throwing cardio in.

I get on a treadmill and set it for 3.4 mph.

Every 3 minutes I increase the incline 1%, so at the 3min mark I go to 1% incline, at 6min I go to 2% and so on.

By 30 min I'm at 8-9% incline.

I've noticed if I do my cardio at a constant pace or incline, my body seems to get used to it and I stop sweating. That is how I cam up with the incline increase every 3 min. Every 2 minutes seemed to be too often for me (just starting out on cardio).

I try to do 30-45 min, 3 times a week to start.

If I finish 30 min on the treadmill and I still feel like going another 10-15 minutes, and I cannot increase the treadmill much more (too steep, too intense) then I go to an eliptical machine or bike and kind of do the same thing.

Derek · Feb 26, 2004

yeah.. but I never did it before... so I wasnt sure if I went hard enough.

rauljimenez · Feb 26, 2004

Derek you never went in specifics if you are dieting or bulking up?

Derek · Feb 26, 2004

well... not really looking to bulk. ( get fat and sloppy) Not looking to get ripped at 5% either.

Im looking to gain some muscle while keeping fat down.

But I do really need to gain some muscle. I have been on low cals for the last 6 yearsJust maintaining the physique you see in my avatar. Now I need to focus on getting bigger and stronger but stay under 10% fat as well...

Am I asking for too much? Im natural also.

big_byrd52 · Feb 26, 2004

Derek, i have read a lot of ur posts lately. u seem to want the best of both worlds. u are going to have to sacrafice a little defenition to get more size. not out of hand, maybe not much fat, but at least holding a little more water than u would like. the best advice i can give u is from an old chinese proverb:

If you try to chase 2 rabbits, both will get away.

Choose a path and commit to it. u are only holding urself back by sitting on the fence.

rauljimenez · Feb 26, 2004

I'm a natural too, if you want to keep your BF in check and gain muscle then you can do cardio for 30-45 minutes slow pace 65-70% MHR and just get out, it will improve your heart, your Blood Pressure, keep your fat in check but also it doesn't go into catabolic mode. Remember you are trying to gain muscle so you must save the hard cardio for later. And btw I forgot to tell you , Low intensity cardio keeps your metabolism running , but not as much as HIIT would do.

Derek · Feb 27, 2004

Yes I guess i am looking for the 2 rabbits. Its just cause i was a fat kid and afraid to repeat that.

But your right... I need to choose one then another. So i guess I will "bulk" so to speak... untill may then start adding cardio ED and trying to get lean.

However I will keep the 30min 2x per week as doggcrapp suggested then up it to daily when its time.

Thanks guys!

xcelbeyond · Feb 27, 2004

Like Mr Pickels said - low intensity cardio is best for "burning fat."

The key is to monitor your heartrate, not if you sweat or not. If you're sweating, your target heart rate "could be" too high. This ain't real detrimental, but if the goal is to maximize "fat" loss then monitor your HR and stay in the target zone.

xcel