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Bigbackzac
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Changing the gear every 4 weeks - Your opinions
Hi all,
I have been constructing my next cycle and I was going to try something new for me anyway.
Usually I will just stick with the same gear and run it for 10 weeks or so. But this time I was thinking something like this
Weeks 1 - 4 : 500mg Enanthate
400mg Deca
40mg Dianabol ed
Weeks 5 - 8 : 500mg Sustanon
400mg Eg
40mg Oral Turinabol ed
Weeks 9 - 10: 500mg Cyp
400mg Deca
40mg Turinabol
Weeks 11 - 16: 50mg Stana ed
40mg Anavar ed
Weeks 12 - 18 Clomid 50mg ed.
What do you think. Basically the goals for the cycle are to increase muscle mass as much as possible.
Thanks
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Freakboy
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Give it a try
I think it would work out better if you started with the sustanon.
Peace
Freakboy
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01-09-2002 05:36 AM
Paul Bunyan
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Try this
Drop that Turinabol, the stuff may be bunk. Send it immediately to me for testing. I'll get back to you on the results. LOL!
If you are going to change it up like that don't use sust. 500mg Test prop/wk would be better and use it the last 4wks. Everything else looks good. I like to see people run cycles 12-16wks. My opinion is, you will keep more of your gains when you come off. I tried 8wk cycles before and it didn't work for me. PB
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01-09-2002 06:26 AM
Bigbackzac
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cycle length
Thanks Paul, I will let you know how the Turinabol goes
I also found that I need cycle lengths of at least 12 weeks to get good resuts. I tried 8 week cycles and found that I was only starting to really gain some decent mass around the 6 week mark.
BBZ
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01-09-2002 08:25 AM
FRKNHUGE
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im with pb on this as well
i like cyc range to be 10 to 20 weeks depending on what u runn
if its like a test/eq/? run it loooooong
as u will see better results and keep them that way
obviously harsher stuff needs to be limited
also abt the turnibol, why dont u send me some as well, i know im a lil late, lol id like to try that also, good for strength, lol
take care
good luck
frk
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01-09-2002 08:57 AM
MikeS
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I like to switch every 4-5wks too. But I think the type of test is not that important. Except so the object is to get test working fast at first (suspension/prop) plus enanthate or sust to build up after wk3/4). And the mailiy prop at the end too. Just my ideas...
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01-09-2002 09:00 AM
forbb
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why 18 weeks???
it's to long man!
forbb
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01-09-2002 02:50 PM
Bigbackzac
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18 weeks
It's only 18 weeks if you count the ancillary drugs as well (clomid). If you see, after week 10, I arent using any androgens, just high anabolics, this is to help me minimise any size lost while my nuts start producing natural test again.
BBZ
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01-09-2002 04:58 PM
forbb
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ok
but why you not do 6 weeks on and 6 week offf and 6 weeks on ?
forbb
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01-09-2002 05:47 PM
tiny2
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I would start with the sustanon, run it for 4 weeks, go to cyp for 4 weeks, and then back to sustanon. Also, Run the dbal for the first 4 weeks, take 4 weeks off and then run it for another 4 weeks.
I believe their is enthenate in sustanon, but no cyp, that's why i cut it out of your cycle.
tiny
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01-09-2002 06:19 PM
time bomb
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imo i don't see a reason to switch test's. i mean test is test
the only reason would be if you were trying to control release times . if that's the case, how about sust in the begining with extra prop. then wind down the last few weeks with prop again.
also i like to leave the cycle open ended, and start to taper off when gains slow.
but that's just my thoughts.
t.b.
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FRKNHUGE IS RIGHT
I LIKE LONGER CYCLES SEEM TO HOLD THE GAINS BETTER
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Changing the gear every 4 weeks - Your opinions
Hi all,
I have been constructing my next cycle and I was going to try something new for me anyway.
Usually I will just stick with the same gear and run it for 10 weeks or so. But this time I was thinking something like this
Weeks 1 - 4 : 500mg Enanthate
400mg Deca
40mg Dianabol ed
Weeks 5 - 8 : 500mg Sustanon
400mg Eg
40mg Oral Turinabol ed
Weeks 9 - 10: 500mg Cyp
400mg Deca
40mg Turinabol
Weeks 11 - 16: 50mg Stana ed
40mg Anavar ed
Weeks 12 - 18 Clomid 50mg ed.
What do you think. Basically the goals for the cycle are to increase muscle mass as much as possible.
Thanks
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Freakboy
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Give it a try
I think it would work out better if you started with the sustanon.
Peace
Freakboy
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01-09-2002 05:36 AM
Paul Bunyan
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Drop that Turinabol, the stuff may be bunk. Send it immediately to me for testing. I'll get back to you on the results. LOL!
If you are going to change it up like that don't use sust. 500mg Test prop/wk would be better and use it the last 4wks. Everything else looks good. I like to see people run cycles 12-16wks. My opinion is, you will keep more of your gains when you come off. I tried 8wk cycles before and it didn't work for me. PB
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Bigbackzac
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cycle length
Thanks Paul, I will let you know how the Turinabol goes
I also found that I need cycle lengths of at least 12 weeks to get good resuts. I tried 8 week cycles and found that I was only starting to really gain some decent mass around the 6 week mark.
BBZ
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01-09-2002 08:25 AM
FRKNHUGE
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im with pb on this as well
i like cyc range to be 10 to 20 weeks depending on what u runn
if its like a test/eq/? run it loooooong
as u will see better results and keep them that way
obviously harsher stuff needs to be limited
also abt the turnibol, why dont u send me some as well, i know im a lil late, lol id like to try that also, good for strength, lol
take care
good luck
frk
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01-09-2002 08:57 AM
MikeS
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I like to switch every 4-5wks too. But I think the type of test is not that important. Except so the object is to get test working fast at first (suspension/prop) plus enanthate or sust to build up after wk3/4). And the mailiy prop at the end too. Just my ideas...
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forbb
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why 18 weeks???
it's to long man!
forbb
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01-09-2002 02:50 PM
Bigbackzac
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18 weeks
It's only 18 weeks if you count the ancillary drugs as well (clomid). If you see, after week 10, I arent using any androgens, just high anabolics, this is to help me minimise any size lost while my nuts start producing natural test again.
BBZ
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forbb
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ok
but why you not do 6 weeks on and 6 week offf and 6 weeks on ?
forbb
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tiny2
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I would start with the sustanon, run it for 4 weeks, go to cyp for 4 weeks, and then back to sustanon. Also, Run the dbal for the first 4 weeks, take 4 weeks off and then run it for another 4 weeks.
I believe their is enthenate in sustanon, but no cyp, that's why i cut it out of your cycle.
tiny
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time bomb
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imo i don't see a reason to switch test's. i mean test is test
the only reason would be if you were trying to control release times . if that's the case, how about sust in the begining with extra prop. then wind down the last few weeks with prop again.
also i like to leave the cycle open ended, and start to taper off when gains slow.
but that's just my thoughts.
t.b.
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dpump111
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FRKNHUGE IS RIGHT
I LIKE LONGER CYCLES SEEM TO HOLD THE GAINS BETTER
`DPUMP`
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