Chat with a British Pro on PCT/Going off Vs Blasting /Crusing

[Nyoco]

The word

spot on...

happens with every fucking drug.

but i am liking Emeric's thoughts on this you can lower the dose or you can go off to become more sensitive to gear so considering we obviously don't want to feel like shit and loose muscle we can just go low dose and then blast again.

I am not convinced yet on just 10 mg though lol I might have to try it and see. I could be totally in the wrong.

Has anyone tried 10 mg of test sub q a day ?

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If you read Emeric´s thread I think he recommends staying on 10mg sub-q year round if you´re not competing, and if you are a competitor doing 8 weeks at 10mg with another 8 weeks "blast" at 20mg and so on, I´m seriously giving the 10mg route a thought and would also like to hear experiences in this regard.

 

[emeric delczeg]

So you would advice me at 36 years of age to do 10 mg of test for few weeks, say 8 weeks may be and then do a blast if I wanted to for 8 weeks (which i will) and NOT bother with PCT and going off hormones completely ?

Also can I keep repeating this 8 weeks cruise at 10 mg and a blast indefinitely for unforseen future ?

Also what are your thoughts of adding other anabolics like tren, deca, npp,mast in the blast phase. I know you have not taken Tren by yourselves.

Btw I am totally sold on your sub q method. I did not believe it before I must admit but I tried in sep 2016 for a cruise for 4 months and I was totally sold. Now I do even my blasts sub q!!! I am talking 400-500-600 mg of test all sub q. I just dont feel like doing it IM anymore.

My current method is ..

Test cruise or blast all goes in sub Q

All anabolics goes IM.


I will post my blood work here.

Many thanks

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Yes, you can do this method back and fort, now if your estrogen level are not in normal range ,then you can stay on the 10mg for e few extra weeks till will be in good range. I would not use any other androgen or anabolic drugs, only test.

 

[biglizard225]

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x2 i agree.

HRT is a term could be used for men or women.

estrogen replacement therapy

or testosterone replacement therapy

TRT is specific to males as we all know.

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Lol I wasn't even going to argue with him. Whatever you wanna call its replacement dosage according to him and my point was I think it's not smart to come completely off. Emeric I think has a good method and I'm just as good with doing 100-300mgs a week for bridging or cruising or replacement dosage. I guess a lot of it depends on how healthy you are and can be on Testosterone if health is a prioritie for you. I think MP is walking proof you can mantain and even build on lower dosages of test and GH

 

[bill2]

Lol I wasn't even going to argue with him. Whatever you wanna call its replacement dosage according to him and my point was I think it's not smart to come completely off. Emeric I think has a good method and I'm just as good with doing 100-300mgs a week for bridging or cruising or replacement dosage. I guess a lot of it depends on how healthy you are and can be on Testosterone if health is a prioritie for you. I think MP is walking proof you can mantain and even build on lower dosages of test and GH

We should not forget though Matt porter s previous history of cycling high doses of AAS .. And Obviusly muscle memory comes into play with his current HRT protocol and his ability to retain such a high level of muscle ( I'm thinking Kevin levrone here... Same situation )


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[1234trew]

The word

spot on...

happens with every fucking drug.

but i am liking Emeric's thoughts on this you can lower the dose or you can go off to become more sensitive to gear so considering we obviously don't want to feel like shit and loose muscle we can just go low dose and then blast again.

I am not convinced yet on just 10 mg though lol I might have to try it and see. I could be totally in the wrong.

Has anyone tried 10 mg of test sub q a day ?

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Would be prudent to slowly ease into that dosage. If you drop from a gram or two down to 70mg a week you are going to crash like a mofo.

 

[Synthetik]

Just blast and blast. TRT periodically (Tren Replacement Therapy).

 

[devenidas]

Lol I wasn't even going to argue with him. Whatever you wanna call its replacement dosage according to him and my point was I think it's not smart to come completely off. Emeric I think has a good method and I'm just as good with doing 100-300mgs a week for bridging or cruising or replacement dosage. I guess a lot of it depends on how healthy you are and can be on Testosterone if health is a prioritie for you. I think MP is walking proof you can mantain and even build on lower dosages of test and GH

Well thats what he "says" mate..

I mean man got to sell supps and make a living.

He got to look jacked to be in the game, like Jay is.

Also another thing i noticed is he has changed his marketing style to Bostin Loyd style in comments sections on his posts he talks about AAS openly and giving advice from his anecdotal exp before he use to refrain from talking about them on social media.

The thing which I find hilarious is he keep doing this..

I am going to be doing a experiment with..


"prescribed" primabolan

"prescribed" anavar

"prescribed" test cyp

"prescribed" GH

Never forgets to include the fucking word lol

Its like listen pal who you fooling you are doing moderate dosages cycles ok

Why the hell he needs prescibed primo and var ?

What medical condition he has been diagnosed with for which there is a medical need to use this stuff ?

Just getting a script via some legal loophole in America and dude's doctor thinks he needs all that stuff including GH and its all legal and medically sound practice lol

all he fucking need from health perspective is little test. that's it.

Rest imo is physical enhancement which is what you and me do but the diff is we dont put a loved up cuddly spin on it.

We do what we do cos we want to look jacked. Simple as that. So does he.

I bet he is selling loads supps at the back of it. He has found his niche and got his marketing tactics right in place and its working very well. Good for him.

I just dont appreciate it when these so called fitness celebs, gurus, coaches, social media personalities​ tries to question the intelligence of the common man.



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[ALLEX]

Your pro friend is full of shit.

My endocrine system was totally fucked up before I turned 30. I know a guy who's 60 years old, been using gear since his early 20's, does 2 cycles per year and tests 600+ 2 months after his summer cycle is finished. No PCT.

Listen to Emeric.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

Look at steroids in the same way as all other drugs that target receptors.. eventually the drug doesn't work as well due to prolonged exposure and requires an increased dose. When you stop or lower your doses the body's sensitivity to the drug increases, and when you start again the dose required is lower.

Actually, this is incorrect. Anabolic androgens actually upregulate androgen receptors, meaning they proliferate (increase) when AAS is used. It is the opposite of what is commonly said on the internet/in the gym between bros.

 

[devenidas]

Your pro friend is full of shit.

My endocrine system was totally fucked up before I turned 30. I know a guy who's 60 years old, been using gear since his early 20's, does 2 cycles per year and tests 600+ 2 months after his summer cycle is finished. No PCT.

Listen to Emeric.

When u say your endocrine system was totally fucked was that because you started using from a young age and didnt do things correctly while u were young and messed up and shut yourself down permanently or were u shot just naturally by age 30.

your guy who does no PCT what does he do between cycles ? TRT or totally off ?

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[devenidas]

Yes, you can do this method back and fort, now if your estrogen level are not in normal range ,then you can stay on the 10mg for e few extra weeks till will be in good range. I would not use any other androgen or anabolic drugs, only test.

Thanks Emeric.

One more question please ..


what are your thoughts on using HCG
to sends intermittent signals to the HPTA while a subject is blasting and crusing nonstop and not doing PCT pr coming off totally.


Use of hcg year around & not just in pct.

Yes or no ? cheers

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[ALLEX]

When u say your endocrine system was totally fucked was that because you started using from a young age and didnt do things correctly while u were young and messed up and shut yourself down permanently or were u shot just naturally by age 30.

I did too many sustanon cycles as a youngster, started when I was 17 or 18.

your guy who does no PCT what does he do between cycles ? TRT or totally off ?

Totally off... He doesn't even know what PCT is. He does 300test and 300deca for 10 weeks twice a year. Feels a little off for a month than rebounds just fine. All that at 60 years old.

These things are very individual.

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

Difference between TRT and HRT is???? I believe he says HRT because he's also in an iu or two of GH.

Otherwise they are used interchangeably.

Well if you use your brain just a little bit trt stands for testosterone replacement

hrt stands for hormone replacement, hormone replacement can obviously mean other hormones in the mix :banghead:

I thought someone would chime in with the answer and were more intelligent at hormone use than this . this isnt directed at you bg Im glad you asked. Thank you Im not some of you people that dont know how to put words together and think for yourselfs

 

[emeric delczeg]

Well thats what he "says" mate..

I mean man got to sell supps and make a living.

He got to look jacked to be in the game, like Jay is.

Also another thing i noticed is he has changed his marketing style to Bostin Loyd style in comments sections on his posts he talks about AAS openly and giving advice from his anecdotal exp before he use to refrain from talking about them on social media.

The thing which I find hilarious is he keep doing this..

I am going to be doing a experiment with..


"prescribed" primabolan

"prescribed" anavar

"prescribed" test cyp

"prescribed" GH

Never forgets to include the fucking word lol

Its like listen pal who you fooling you are doing moderate dosages cycles ok

Why the hell he needs prescibed primo and var ?

What medical condition he has been diagnosed with for which there is a medical need to use this stuff ?

Just getting a script via some legal loophole in America and dude's doctor thinks he needs all that stuff including GH and its all legal and medically sound practice lol

all he fucking need from health perspective is little test. that's it.

Rest imo is physical enhancement which is what you and me do but the diff is we dont put a loved up cuddly spin on it.

We do what we do cos we want to look jacked. Simple as that. So does he.

I bet he is selling loads supps at the back of it. He has found his niche and got his marketing tactics right in place and its working very well. Good for him.

I just dont appreciate it when these so called fitness celebs, gurus, coaches, social media personalities​ tries to question the intelligence of the common man.



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Not everybody want to look jacked.

 

[emeric delczeg]

Actually, this is incorrect. Anabolic androgens actually upregulate androgen receptors, meaning they proliferate (increase) when AAS is used. It is the opposite of what is commonly said on the internet/in the gym between bros.

Up-regulation would take place only in the exercised muscles. The point is, that only the trained muscles get bigger. The growth is determined by the numerous local alterations caused by muscular contractions, not a systemic circulating factor. Actually excessive testosterone levels induce the rapid loss of muscle testosterone sensivity. There is absolutely no increase. The muscle fights the excess and immunizes itself against androgens, which is the reason steroids become less potent as time goes by.

 

[devenidas]

Not everybody want to look jacked.

May be not everybody in this world Emeric but I would like to think every member on pro muscle would like to get jacked and stay jacked. Thats why we are here.

Oxford dictionary defines Jacked (one of meaning) as ...


Jacked :-

(of a person) having very well-developed muscles.

What is wrong in that ?

Look at this picture. This is a Jacked bodybuilder.

I wish I was this Jacked lol



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[emeric delczeg]

May be not everybody in this world Emeric but I would like to think every member on pro muscle would like to get jacked and stay jacked. Thats why we are here.

Oxford dictionary defines Jacked (one of meaning) as ...


Jacked :-

(of a person) having very well-developed muscles.

What is wrong in that ?

Look at this picture. This is a Jacked bodybuilder.

I wish I was this Jacked lol

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In my opinion jacked is some one cartoonist looking vs classic look, I consider my self, classic look, I would consider some one at my height competing at 230 jacked, my-bee I am wrong.

 

[devenidas]

In my opinion jacked is some one cartoonist looking vs classic look, I consider my self, classic look, I would consider some one at my height competing at 230 jacked, my-bee I am wrong.

Of Course you are a classic look bodybuilder like the 80's crop.

Jacked

Hench (another word-same meaning)

There are British vocab/slang words Emeric and we use them here in UK to describe well developed muscular men, that's why I also said/referred you as Jacked

Perhaps in America this carries a different/extreme look meaning.

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[ALLEX]

In my opinion jacked is some one cartoonist looking vs classic look, I consider my self, classic look, I would consider some one at my height competing at 230 jacked, my-bee I am wrong.

You're jacked.

 

[emeric delczeg]

Of Course you are a classic look bodybuilder like the 80's crop.

Jacked

Hench (another word-same meaning)

There are British vocab/slang words Emeric and we use them here in UK to describe well developed muscular men, that's why I also said/referred you as Jacked

Perhaps in America this carries a different/extreme look meaning.

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OK , then I am jacked or I was.