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Cheating the System

ubcpower

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After talking to several competitors of a local TESTED show I wasnt suprised to find out all of them were using gear up until the show. I also have just recently spoken to a NCAA Div. 1 Athlete who ran quite a condensed and 'strategic' cycle in attempt to test clean at a track meet. My question is for all of these tested shows where a polygraph or out of season testing isnt administed what stops a bbuilding competitor from running a cycle such as the following? A knowledgible trainer who i work with said there would be a discrepency in the epi/test ratio levels because of the crash from dropping the test prop right before the competition/show what have you....seems to make the whole tested show thing abs pointless when you can run so much stuff through 80% of the prep.

His cycle was as follows:

CYCLE PROTOCOL

16 Weeks to Day of meet: 4iu Gh ED

16 Weeks out to 28 days out test prop 100mg/EOD

16 Weeks out to 11 Weeks out anavar 40/50mg day

11 Weeks out to 5 Weeks out Oral winny 50mg day

16 Weeks out to 7 Days Out Clenbuterol

16 Weeks out to Day of the Meet Cytomel (T3)
 
Pretty easy to get away with. Almost every pro athlete takes banned substances and that is a fact. It's the stupid and complacent ones who get caught. 10% do not because they are the genetically gifted.
 
Personally, I don't think to highly of any enhanced bodybuilder that competes at natural shows. Leave the the natural shows to those who wish to go this route or have been natural long enough to qualify. If you are enhanced, have the integrity to get up on stage with like minded individuals, where it's an even playing field.
 
Question was more along the lines of would a cycle such as the one below that he stated he used not be picked up by the drug testing? How can it be so easy even with all these compounds. Would a test not pick up discrepencies in natural epi/test ratio?

CYCLE PROTOCOL

16 Weeks to Day of meet: 4iu Gh ED

16 Weeks out to 28 days out test prop 100mg/EOD

28 days out to 5 days out Test Sustanon 50mg/ed

16 Weeks out to 11 Weeks out anavar 40/50mg day

11 Weeks out to 5 Weeks out Oral winny 50mg day

16 Weeks out to 7 Days Out Clenbuterol

16 Weeks out to Day of the Meet Cytomel (T3)
 
Personally, I don't think to highly of any enhanced bodybuilder that competes at natural shows. Leave the the natural shows to those who wish to go this route or have been natural long enough to qualify. If you are enhanced, have the integrity to get up on stage with like minded individuals, where it's an even playing field.

Not everyone lives in USA where there are tested and untested federations. You have untested NPC, we have tested amateur championships and that's all. Everyone uses protocols similar to those pasted here and they do fine. I wouldn't recommend using t3 tho, instead I would add more peptides, possibly slin.

Here in Poland some of guys enter tested shows ON, some get clean before the show... Right ones never get tested and sometimes even if you get tested your urine won't make it to the lab. It's real mess I tell you.
 
Well, can epi/test ratio/levels be tested in urine? Or do you need to draw blood?
 
Honestly it's all federation dependant... I know that in IPF you would get busted becouse they have new tests which detect winny up to 5 months osmt. Many ppl got caught becouse of that recently.
 
Well, can epi/test ratio/levels be tested in urine? Or do you need to draw blood?

good question, anyone know answer?
And I notice he has Suspension taking over from prop, so by dropping sustanon 5 weeks out undoubtedbly hed be tested with very low crashed test levels?
 

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