CHINA laws MEGATHREAD

Big A · Dec 12, 2019

This will be thread to post all the info about the new laws that supposedly are coming in effect in China on 1st of Jan 2020, allegedly banning the export of raw powders and finished products of anabolics and hormones.

I personally cannot find anything about it on the Chinese search engines or in any Chinese material. Only discussions on the English speaking forums.

So, go ahead an discuss.

!!!Note that this thread is NOT to promote your services if you are a sponsor!!!

K1 · Dec 12, 2019

Yeah guys...This isn't going to be an advertising thread and you guys know the rules, so don't try bending them. Not going to play babysitter!

The only thing I could find that hasn't been by word-of-mouth has been the SARMs Control Act but nothing regarding AAS raws or finished products.

Here is a China link (google translator for English): http://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1650655188269513998

need4tren · Dec 12, 2019

I’m sure ugl are majorly stocking up. But prices will rise as people will see it as harder to get. More profit for labs. I’m sure another country will take over. It’s a billion dollar industry. Although I’ve read nothing about actually banning raws? So this could all be for nothing.
I’m sure customs is cracking down right now aswel

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

Can someone translate this?

百度安全验证

baijiahao.baidu.com

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

More:

Regulatory Changes 2019/11/25

science.bio

little slice · Dec 12, 2019

china is asshoe

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

COMPLETE BANNED LIST HERE OF COMPOUNDS

2019 Banned Substance List.pdf

Shared with Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

That about covers everything.

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

I found those links here:

The end of steroids in China? New law in 2020

Anyone else researching this? As of Jan 2020, China has added steroids, sarms and hgh on their lists of banned substances, and raws sources are saying companies will no longer willingly ship them to the USA...

thinksteroids.com

Looks like China is officially banning it all. Have to see what gets through their customs. Some folks over there might have a way, but wow are the punishments severe. Death penalty for some of it! Youd have to have a giant pair of balls to risk that.

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

One guy on that thread says:
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As we had heard in 2020 the law in China will change and many ug labs are already closing, China is no joke when they pass law and they enforce dead penalty, so many people are scared, raws will be affected, sarms companies that were not illegal and peptides as well, only companies that have license and pay taxes will be ok
I saw a post from The provider in Bop saying that labs are closing down and his packages now are taking 3 weeks to arrive, so this already is starting to affect sources
I also heard of many sources selling their stock really cheap before 2020 comes
So maybe is time to stock up Now until things get better
What are your thoughts?
What have u heard from your sources
Let’s keep this thread updated only with hgh supplies"

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

Some people are saying that companies with a certificate from the government to manufacture the drugs will be allowed to continue doing so, its the underground labs that will be crushed. Here is what some other people said in that thread:

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Here is what i got from my overseas source when i asked the question. The email starts from the bottom of the page and works up. I have gotten hgh, sarms and aas from this source. View attachment 122528

So apparantly larger companies with a "certificate" will still be able to operate. Take it for what it's worth.

I was told basically the same thing from two of my sources. One is a licenced factory and will not be affected by the ban although they were forced to stop making viagra and cialis raws months ago. The other is a tradesman(middleman) and said they are stopping for the moment to see what happens but even the middlemen will probably be able to continue by shipping directly from the licenced factories. The UG factories are the main ones who will be affected. I heard about one who was trying to get licenced but said they were not able to at least for the time being. If there is enough money to be made these drugs aint goin anywhere. Cuz they wanna stop fentynal and heroin really bad and its getting cheaper and more available every year and has been since the 90's. "

Seems like there are a lot of statements floating around and nobody knows what is true. Only time will tell I think ."

mr. miyagi · Dec 12, 2019

maldorf said:
Some people are saying that companies with a certificate from the government to manufacture the drugs will be allowed to continue doing so, its the underground labs that will be crushed. Here is what some other people said in that thread:

"

I was told basically the same thing from two of my sources. One is a licenced factory and will not be affected by the ban although they were forced to stop making viagra and cialis raws months ago. The other is a tradesman(middleman) and said they are stopping for the moment to see what happens but even the middlemen will probably be able to continue by shipping directly from the licenced factories. The UG factories are the main ones who will be affected. I heard about one who was trying to get licenced but said they were not able to at least for the time being. If there is enough money to be made these drugs aint goin anywhere. Cuz they wanna stop fentynal and heroin really bad and its getting cheaper and more available every year and has been since the 90's. "

Seems like there are a lot of statements floating around and nobody knows what is true. Only time will tell I think ."

All good info. Thx

Durro · Dec 12, 2019

I hope this is like the Y2K scare, remember everyone was saying in 2000 the computers will crash because it recognizes 2000 as year 00.

jozifp103 · Dec 12, 2019

little slice said:
china is asshoe

Man I got that reference and that's some funny ass shit.

Crazy_jay · Dec 12, 2019

The question is, will this law really be enforced or is it just a law to appease the U.S. Trump has been hard on china with trade talks and tariffs, maybe they just want to settle him down by making laws they dont really care about. Not sure I see china as a country that gives a crap.

Dens228 · Dec 12, 2019

Like happened in the past, some sources will use the scare to raise prices, then after the furor dies down it will be back to normal. I really don't think supplies will be "scarce" unless suppliers decide to make them so in order to raise prices. Some of us old timers have seen this several times before.

Sandpig · Dec 12, 2019

maldorf said:
COMPLETE BANNED LIST HERE OF COMPOUNDS

2019 Banned Substance List.pdf

Shared with Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

That about covers everything.

Damn, that's a big ass list!

IronLion2 · Dec 12, 2019

Can someone confirm these raws were illegal from the get?

Majildian · Dec 12, 2019

Time for India to shine

maldorf · Dec 12, 2019

Majildian said:
Time for India to shine

They seem like the most likely to replace China. I wonder how the quality of their raw powders compare to China's? Prices would be similar I think? Ability to supply the same volume probably wont happen right away.

buck · Dec 12, 2019

Durro said:
I hope this is like the Y2K scare, remember everyone was saying in 2000 the computers will crash because it recognizes 2000 as year 00.

I can only hope. I flew to Kenya for a month to experience Y2K there. If it was going to happen I figured that would make an interesting story trying to get back home.