coming off certains things leading up to a show...

[WskyCowboy]

curious if anyone has ever had any expereince with coming off an SSRI for a show? is there any evidence to possible the brain resetting so to speak and the seratonin, dopamine and norepinephrine coming out of a show? that it may not be needed any more? or possibly just lower the dose? just interetested in some convo around it.

 

[alfresco]

curious if anyone has ever had any expereince with coming off an SSRI for a show? is there any evidence to possible the brain resetting so to speak and the seratonin, dopamine and norepinephrine coming out of a show? that it may not be needed any more? or possibly just lower the dose? just interetested in some convo around it.

First off, why would you want to come off?

 

[R3aper7]

I think that pre contest, especially as you get closer to show date is bad time to start playing with variables that you haven’t already tested.

But in general, I don’t think it’s a good idea to play with your mental health. If it’s working, don’t try to fix it.

 

[IronRancher]

I tried to come off during a very stable and low stress time in my life. It turns out the medication was helping me and I didn't realize it. During that time. Things were just less crazy than normal.

Discussed it with my doctor. His point was the particular drug has no known long term health impacts and there is zero reason to come off it outside of preference.

My question for you is how does this relate to a show? Do you think coming off will have an impact on your performance?

I like what the other posters have said and there is some reflection for you in there. Specifically, why change yet another variable going in to a show?

Best of luck to you man. Men's mental health is not discussed openly enough, good on you posting this thread.

 

[EFShadow]

I would suggest that you get with your Dr.

 

[Chinaski]

curious if anyone has ever had any expereince with coming off an SSRI for a show? is there any evidence to possible the brain resetting so to speak and the seratonin, dopamine and norepinephrine coming out of a show? that it may not be needed any more? or possibly just lower the dose? just interetested in some convo around it.

It all depends on the drug you’re taking, especially the half-life. I tried coming off Effexor a long time ago, worst migraines and brain zaps ever. I thought I would die the withdrawals were so terrible. Eventually I was told to take a SSRI with a long half-life, in my case Prozac, to ween off the Effexor, and that worked. I have a friend now who experienced same as me coming off Citalopram, and now they’re doing the Prozac to ween off as well.

 

[specter]

It all depends on the drug you’re taking, especially the half-life. I tried coming off Effexor a long time ago, worst migraines and brain zaps ever. I thought I would die the withdrawals were so terrible. Eventually I was told to take a SSRI with a long half-life, in my case Prozac, to ween off the Effexor, and that worked. I have a friend now who experienced same as me coming off Citalopram, and now they’re doing the Prozac to ween off as well.

i came off effexor after 10+ years on 300mg daily... bruh that was absolute hell...

 

[Chinaski]

i came off effexor after 10+ years on 300mg daily... bruh that was absolute hell...

I've had MTBIs from concussions that were milder than Effexor withdrawals. That stuff is the devil

 

[Brocksamson2.0]

I wouldnt come off your SSRI... it wont affect your look but will affect your mood

 

[WskyCowboy]

fully aware it wont affect the look, thats obvious. but i guess more so because the state the body and mind are in, im wondering if it almost goes through a reset that when coming out of a prep in a deep defiect that mind reboots and starts making them correctly so to speak?

 

[MarcE17]

If you stop it abruptly, I definitely wouldn't expect a “reset” — more likely a rough rebound. How long have you been taking it?

fully aware it wont affect the look, thats obvious. but i guess more so because the state the body and mind are in, im wondering if it almost goes through a reset that when coming out of a prep in a deep defiect that mind reboots and starts making them correctly so to speak?

 

[WskyCowboy]

If you stop it abruptly, I definitely wouldn't expect a “reset” — more likely a rough rebound. How long have you been taking it?

i would agre to that, which then leads me to my next question, what if you were to tritate down as you would another oral or even removing orals.

and to be clear this is strickly for converstaion sake as this was another convo i was having with another coach and just disussing for shits and giggles.

 

[gib68sg]

fully aware it wont affect the look, thats obvious. but i guess more so because the state the body and mind are in, im wondering if it almost goes through a reset that when coming out of a prep in a deep defiect that mind reboots and starts making them correctly so to speak?

You’re conflating how you feel and what caused the need for the medication to begin with. Doing a prep absolutely will not reset the underlying cause for why you needed that drug.

 

[WskyCowboy]

You’re conflating how you feel and what caused the need for the medication to begin with. Doing a prep absolutely will not reset the underlying cause for why you needed that drug.

so are you saying the brain doesnt change as the body goes into a deep prep or change coming out of something like that?

 

[gib68sg]

so are you saying the brain doesnt change as the body goes into a deep prep or change coming out of something like that?

No. Of course the brain changes in response to a deep prep. Your brain is an organ and it responds to energy availability, hormones, sleep, stress, neurotransmitter activity… A prolonged aggressive deficit can absolutely alter mood, cognition, motivation, anxiety, and a bunch of other things.

The part I’m disagreeing with is the leap from “the brain changes during and after prep” to “therefore it may reset whatever underlying condition required an SSRI in the first place.”

You can absolutely feel substantially different after prep without being fundamentally “fixed.” That’s the distinction I was making.

 

[specter]

so are you saying the brain doesnt change as the body goes into a deep prep or change coming out of something like that?

What drug are you on and at what dose ? these things are not without importance, some drugs like Effexor is a real fuckin rough ride to come off and just going cold turkey could put you in the hospital from the fysical withdrawls alone..

 

[Chinaski]

Yup. @specter said it best, and a lot of dudes on here are right to ask why go off. I totally understand going off and not wanting to be dependent on these medications the rest of your life, but if your life is better after starting than before, then why risk going off? Some people go off the rails and make rash decisions that can destroy relationships or careers coming off these drugs. Have a plan with your doctor, and a good support system in place.

 

[WskyCowboy]

No. Of course the brain changes in response to a deep prep. Your brain is an organ and it responds to energy availability, hormones, sleep, stress, neurotransmitter activity… A prolonged aggressive deficit can absolutely alter mood, cognition, motivation, anxiety, and a bunch of other things.

The part I’m disagreeing with is the leap from “the brain changes during and after prep” to “therefore it may reset whatever underlying condition required an SSRI in the first place.”

You can absolutely feel substantially different after prep without being fundamentally “fixed.” That’s the distinction I was making.

ok i get what youre saying. i guess more so leaning into how some people dont need them long term, so if that being the case my curiousity is as you move into a prep and you were ween off as you go also couldnt it be possible that the brain doesnt need it anymore or is it possible that it could start to fix the imbalance that was there before as they come out of it and the brain starts to regulate normally again.

honestly this again is just me asking questions out loud that were discussed previously. just interested in peoples thoughts.

 

[WskyCowboy]

What drug are you on and at what dose ? these things are not without importance, some drugs like Effexor is a real fuckin rough ride to come off and just going cold turkey could put you in the hospital from the fysical withdrawls alone..

oh for sure, i guess that does make a big difference what i had in mind with my question was something in the likes of lexapro or something that is given out here in the US pretty often and usually a starting dose is like 5-10mg

 

[primobolan]

Research micro dosed psilocybin to come off SSRI's permanently. That shit poses as your savior then slowly becomes the devil, if you know; you know. That being said precontest is definitely not the time.