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Growing Dad
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 136
Coming off.
As most of you know, my first cycle ended about a 14 days ago.
And because of the source I hooked up with, I never got any clomid to finish, so my cycle ended with winny(50mgs ed for about 4.5 weeks).
My problem is that I am really really tired almost all the time now, I mean wiped! I haven't lost any of my strength gains although some of the muscle hardness has gone. In addition, my concentration is lacking during my workouts. I have also been having trouble sleeping when it is time to sleep, I'm awake every 30-40 mins all night long. I've tried unisom, but it doesn't really help to much. I have cut back a bit on protein intake since my cycle ended because I think most of it was getting flushed anyway! I'm still running 2mi eod and lifting eod like I was, and my heart & body are into it, but my mind is not there.
Is this all just natural during coming off? Would clomid have helped? I have some ordered but hasn't shown up yet!
GD
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01-18-2002 05:41 AM
Freakboy
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Location: Your moms bedroom
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Sometimes depression hits you after a cycle bro, but you have to keep on kicking. Still train hard, eat right, and most of all dont give up.
If you are having trouble sleeping, take some Nytol. It always works for me.
Check your mail too bro!
Peace
Freakboy
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01-18-2002 05:45 AM
Bigbackzac
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Going off
Note to self: Never go off.
BBZ
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01-18-2002 05:38 PM
Growing Dad
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
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never go off?
is that a joke?
From what i've read, the receptor sites need a break at least once in awhile. I realize everyone is different, but I would have to assume that never coming off would result in gear having no effect after awhile.
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01-18-2002 08:56 PM
MikeS
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Be prepared next time with some clomid. I use Tylenol PM to sleep (same active ingredent as Sominex).
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01-18-2002 09:19 PM
Phil Hernon
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COMING OFF
GD, BIGBACKZAC HAS AN INTERESTING POINT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADOPTED BY MORE PEOPLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME MAJOR SWINGS IN HORMONE LEVELS WHICH ARE MORE HARMFUL IN THE LONG RUN I FEEL. I WOULD LOWER DOSAGES DURING THE "OFF" TIME. I WAS A BIG BELIEVER IN TRIBESTAN AND USED IT LIKE CRAZY DURING THE OFF TIMES. WWW.SYNTHEROL.COM NOW HAS YOHIMBIE SO I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD USE THAT, IT SOUNDS GREAT!!! THEY KEEP COMING OUT WITH THESE GREAT PRODUCTS!!! TRY MELATONIN AT NIGHT TO HELP YOU SLEEP, IT HELPED ME. KEEP PROTEIN AT %40 OF INTAKE, UP FATS (OLIVE OIL) TO %40 OF INTAKE, KEEPING CARBS AT %20. I THINK YOUR CARBS ARE TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW, YOUR PANCREAS MIGHT BE WORKING DOUBLE TIME NOW BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE NOT SO INSULIN SENSITIVE AS YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE "ON". NOW IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO USE GLUCOPHAGE FROM MEDSMEX.COM, AND WHEN YOU TRAIN, CUT BACK THE SETS AND TRY TO UP THE INTENSITY, AND CONTINUE CARDIO 20 MIN EOD. YOU MIGHT NEED A LITTLE CYTOMIL NOW, 25MCG PER DAY TO SEE IF IT HELPS, YOUR THYROID MIGHT BE LOW FROM THE AS USE, DUE TO LIVER FUNCTION DYSFUNCTION HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAH. USE THE SYNTHERGINE LIVER CLEANER, ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD, 2cc FOR YOU EVERY DAY SHOULD DO THE TRICK, YOU ARE A BIG GUY!!!!!!!
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01-18-2002 11:37 PM
forbb
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you need clomid 100%!
hello
Never start your cycle if you don't hawe any clomid!
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forbb
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01-19-2002 03:32 AM
Bigbackzac
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Maintenance dose
Sorry mate, I was actually just joking around.
But I adopt the principle that Phil was talking about. When I am in "off" mode I still take at minimum 100mg of Test Cyp per week. I have found this to be a good dosage as when I start back up again to say 500mg of Test, I still get the same results as if I was never on the whole time.
Just experiment and see what your body repsonds to.
Good luck mate.
BBZ
Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 136
Coming off.
As most of you know, my first cycle ended about a 14 days ago.
And because of the source I hooked up with, I never got any clomid to finish, so my cycle ended with winny(50mgs ed for about 4.5 weeks).
My problem is that I am really really tired almost all the time now, I mean wiped! I haven't lost any of my strength gains although some of the muscle hardness has gone. In addition, my concentration is lacking during my workouts. I have also been having trouble sleeping when it is time to sleep, I'm awake every 30-40 mins all night long. I've tried unisom, but it doesn't really help to much. I have cut back a bit on protein intake since my cycle ended because I think most of it was getting flushed anyway! I'm still running 2mi eod and lifting eod like I was, and my heart & body are into it, but my mind is not there.
Is this all just natural during coming off? Would clomid have helped? I have some ordered but hasn't shown up yet!
GD
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Protector of my family!
Transformation comes in response to a NEED as well as a DESIRE!
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01-18-2002 05:41 AM
Freakboy
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Your moms bedroom
Posts: 52
Sometimes depression hits you after a cycle bro, but you have to keep on kicking. Still train hard, eat right, and most of all dont give up.
If you are having trouble sleeping, take some Nytol. It always works for me.
Check your mail too bro!
Peace
Freakboy
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01-18-2002 05:45 AM
Bigbackzac
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Going off
Note to self: Never go off.
BBZ
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01-18-2002 05:38 PM
Growing Dad
Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 136
never go off?
is that a joke?
From what i've read, the receptor sites need a break at least once in awhile. I realize everyone is different, but I would have to assume that never coming off would result in gear having no effect after awhile.
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Growing Dad
Protector of my family!
Transformation comes in response to a NEED as well as a DESIRE!
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01-18-2002 08:56 PM
MikeS
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Be prepared next time with some clomid. I use Tylenol PM to sleep (same active ingredent as Sominex).
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01-18-2002 09:19 PM
Phil Hernon
IFBB PRO
Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 180
COMING OFF
GD, BIGBACKZAC HAS AN INTERESTING POINT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADOPTED BY MORE PEOPLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME MAJOR SWINGS IN HORMONE LEVELS WHICH ARE MORE HARMFUL IN THE LONG RUN I FEEL. I WOULD LOWER DOSAGES DURING THE "OFF" TIME. I WAS A BIG BELIEVER IN TRIBESTAN AND USED IT LIKE CRAZY DURING THE OFF TIMES. WWW.SYNTHEROL.COM NOW HAS YOHIMBIE SO I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD USE THAT, IT SOUNDS GREAT!!! THEY KEEP COMING OUT WITH THESE GREAT PRODUCTS!!! TRY MELATONIN AT NIGHT TO HELP YOU SLEEP, IT HELPED ME. KEEP PROTEIN AT %40 OF INTAKE, UP FATS (OLIVE OIL) TO %40 OF INTAKE, KEEPING CARBS AT %20. I THINK YOUR CARBS ARE TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW, YOUR PANCREAS MIGHT BE WORKING DOUBLE TIME NOW BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE NOT SO INSULIN SENSITIVE AS YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE "ON". NOW IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO USE GLUCOPHAGE FROM MEDSMEX.COM, AND WHEN YOU TRAIN, CUT BACK THE SETS AND TRY TO UP THE INTENSITY, AND CONTINUE CARDIO 20 MIN EOD. YOU MIGHT NEED A LITTLE CYTOMIL NOW, 25MCG PER DAY TO SEE IF IT HELPS, YOUR THYROID MIGHT BE LOW FROM THE AS USE, DUE TO LIVER FUNCTION DYSFUNCTION HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAH. USE THE SYNTHERGINE LIVER CLEANER, ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD, 2cc FOR YOU EVERY DAY SHOULD DO THE TRICK, YOU ARE A BIG GUY!!!!!!!
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01-18-2002 11:37 PM
forbb
Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 123
you need clomid 100%!
hello
Never start your cycle if you don't hawe any clomid!
-------------------------
forbb
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Always ready to help you!
[email protected]
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01-19-2002 03:32 AM
Bigbackzac
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 55
Maintenance dose
Sorry mate, I was actually just joking around.
But I adopt the principle that Phil was talking about. When I am in "off" mode I still take at minimum 100mg of Test Cyp per week. I have found this to be a good dosage as when I start back up again to say 500mg of Test, I still get the same results as if I was never on the whole time.
Just experiment and see what your body repsonds to.
Good luck mate.
BBZ
