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confused about raw milk

therealmckoy

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i have read on here many times that raw milk is better nutrionally than pasteurized milk...but now im confused...

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if it wasn't a government site i would have just passed over it like it was bs but ...can someone enlighten me? thanks 8]
 
You're not confused at all. ;) Good for you for doing your own research. Do you think milk is pasteurized for shits and grins? LOL
 
i have read on here many times that raw milk is better nutrionally than pasteurized milk...but now im confused...

raw_milk

and

**broken link removed**

look at #6

if it wasn't a government site i would have just passed over it like it was bs but ...can someone enlighten me? thanks 8]


Yes, good for you for doing your own research.Now just look at who it is..it's the FDA...of course the FDA wants you to drink past milk. They also want to take your supplements and everything else..they along with the USDA...

Read this if you want something more fact based..

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JM
 
Read this too

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Why is milk pasteurized?
In the 1800s, many US dairies began commercially producing low quality raw milk in the inner cities of Boston and New York and others. These Brewery dairies would feed their cows very poor quality "brewer's mash." The resulting milk was very weak and nearly blue from lack of protein, mineral, and fat content. This occurred during the Jamaican rum embargo. During this same time period, the dairy industry did not use or have access to refrigeration, stainless steel, milking machines, rubber hoses, hot water, or chlorine as a sanitizer. TB and Brucellosis were rampant (not to mention horse manure on the streets, flies, and lack of public sanitation and sewage) and the cows were milked by hand without mechanical machines. The cows stood in manure and there was no access to pasture (sounds like some factory dairy farms of 2005). The resulting unhealthy milk from these sources literally killed millions. The heating of milk to high temperatures reduced this horrible blight. During this same time period, milk from the countryside taken from pasture grazed healthy and clean cows was the best medicine of the day. In fact, the Mayo Clinic used this high quality country raw milk as a basis for many disease curing therapies. This was the untold story of raw milk. Because of pasteurization successes, commercial interests prevailed and all dairies (the good, bad, and the ugly) then began to pool their milk so that "nobody would die," even if milk quality was very poor. This was great news for milk mass marketing, and creameries created high profits. These pasteurization practices continue today with the chief benefit being extended shelf life. These modern dead milk products now cause allergies and lactose intolerance to huge sectors of the population. Current (PMO) Federal standards for pasteurized milk permit 100,000 bacteria per ml for milk going to be pasteurized with as many as 20,000 injured or living bacteria to be alive after pasteurization, and this may include pathogens (this is arguably the reason why milk is pasteurized). California standards for human consumption raw milk require that milk sold for raw consumption have fewer than 10 coliforms and fewer than 15,000 live bacteria per ml and no pathogens. OPDC averages about 1500 beneficial living bacteria per ml and no test has ever detected a human pathogen in our “raw milk samples.”
 
You're not confused at all. ;) Good for you for doing your own research. Do you think milk is pasteurized for shits and grins? LOL

nope. it is pasteurized so it can be transported for longer distances, allowing the big corporations to mass produce it
 
It also allow large scale factories to be incredibly dirty and put shit (literally) in your milk. Mass production combined with long distance transportation is not a pretty combination when it comes to food.
 
i have read on here many times that raw milk is better nutrionally than pasteurized milk...but now im confused...

raw_milk

and

**broken link removed**

look at #6

if it wasn't a government site i would have just passed over it like it was bs but ...can someone enlighten me? thanks 8]

no offense but i find this disturbing
 
i have read on here many times that raw milk is better nutrionally than pasteurized milk...but now im confused...

raw_milk

and

**broken link removed**

look at #6

if it wasn't a government site i would have just passed over it like it was bs but ...can someone enlighten me? thanks 8]

Lies and mis-information are all you will get from our beloved government. They hate raw milk because raw milk is less profitable, plain and simple. If it was as profitable as pasteurized they would most certainly promote and sell it. Don't kid yourself. It's all about money. They don't care if you get sick, for the most part.
 
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Lies and mis-information are all you will get from our beloved government. They hate raw milk because raw milk is less profitable, plain and simple. If it was as profitable as pasteurized they would most certainly promote and sell it. Don't kid yourself. It's all about money. They don't care if you get sick, for the most part.

Wisdom right there my friends...

JM
 
I've been drinking raw milk for the past 3 years, try it, you'll never drink the crap you buy in the store again...
 
I've been drinking raw milk for the past 3 years, try it, you'll never drink the crap you buy in the store again...

this is true. i just started on raw milk about 2months ago. $7 a gallon as opposed to the store which is around $3 a gallone. it's worth the money.:)
 
Lies and mis-information are all you will get from our beloved government. They hate raw milk because raw milk is less profitable, plain and simple. If it was as profitable as pasteurized they would most certainly promote and sell it. Don't kid yourself. It's all about money. They don't care if you get sick, for the most part.

Bingo! The government prosecutes raw milk producers in a similar fashion to drug dealers! I actually see a lot of parallels between the raw milk situation and 'supplements.' I read in one of the major agriculture newspapers a few months back one poor fellow (of course providing customers with a product they want) had thousands of dollars of product and equipment seized from his farm for selling raw milk. The government raided his farm like it was a meth lab!
If you want to trust government propaganda...well look at their other 'information' (read: lies) they provide us (bodybuilders). The government says that steroids turn anyone into a raving homicidal maniac who is bound to die from a multitude of horrid ailments, and that we should all consume no more than 70 grams of protein a day. On a bit off an off note, I think everyone should read an excellent book entitled The Hundred Year Lie by Randall Fitzgerald. Read it and maybe you will reconsider what the government preaches.
 
the only raw milk I can find near me is goats milk , is it as benificial as raw cows milk??

I love goat cheese and BBQ goats , the milk can't be half bad :D
 
the only raw milk I can find near me is goats milk , is it as benificial as raw cows milk??

I love goat cheese and BBQ goats , the milk can't be half bad :D

i asked this same question in MDs article thread...hope he doesnt mind if i copy and paste his words


Goat milk is great..actually it is the most consumed typ of milk in the world (goat meat is th consumd type of meat too). The fat in goat milk is very easy to digest, and you don't have to worry about lactose intolerance...it actually has a bunch more vimtain A then cow milk..raw goat milk is a great choice.

Regards,
JM
 
the only raw milk I can find near me is goats milk , is it as benificial as raw cows milk??

I love goat cheese and BBQ goats , the milk can't be half bad :D

Even better, depending on the goat's diet.
 
yea my parents have a milk cow and that all i dring is 100% raw jersey milk. I love it and i cant wait till it has a calf and the milk is full of colostrum. Raw milk is realy full of probiotics and is great for the digestive system. As long as i live they will never stop me from drinking Raw milk. LOL.. I realy think it does help with muscle gain to and think somehow it helps raise HGH naturally. Gona raise some grass fed beef too,, cant wait.
 
i know that none of this stuff is revolutionary or new but I just wanted to thank MD and everybody else for making me look into the types of food i'm buying
 
Can raw milk be frozen for storage and if so what negitive effects does it have on it?
 
Can raw milk be frozen for storage and if so what negitive effects does it have on it?

I go to the farm every other week, and pick up 8 gallons at a time, I freeze 6 of 'em. Haven't had any issues at all, you do need to shake it up well to mix the fat before freezing, otherwise you'll have little chucks of fat that don't assimilate back when defrosted.

I've also left a gallon unfrozen in the fridge for almost a month before using, and it was still good after that time, try that with store bought...
 

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