Contest prep

gulfcoast · Jun 8, 2010

My gf has had some good results at local and regional figure shows and has decided to do a large well known national show that she is qualified for.

She has paid for workout, diet n prep advice from some of the supposed "gurus" of the business but has become increasingly disenchanted w the quality and lack of "hands on" approach they use. This time she is doing everything herself and had a few questions re supplements that I thought I would ask the experts on.

She has taken Var with good results before and will be taking 10-15mg ED during contest prep this time as well.

Question #1 - when to stop the Var? I have tried to research it for her and some say stop 3 weeks out, some 2 and some 1.

Question #2 - other girls have mentioned the good results they saw w using Nolva for contest prep so she wants to incorporate that as well. Again, research shows various thoughts on the subject but revolve around 4, 6, 8 weeks out at 10-20mg ED.

Thanks for any comments or suggestions.

Gunsmith · Jun 10, 2010

Where abouts are you located , I assume from your name the Gulf Coast region?? Theirs an IFBB pro figure competitor thats a trainer at my gym , she does great work with her clients if you close to the New Orleans region

Several of the trainers here have some very impressive clients competing in figure , you might try hooking up with one of them

tenny · Jun 10, 2010

the mirror should answer ANY and ALL questions
that you have regarding what your asking

gulfcoast · Jun 10, 2010

Gunsmith said:
Where abouts are you located , I assume from your name the Gulf Coast region?? Theirs an IFBB pro figure competitor thats a trainer at my gym , she does great work with her clients if you close to the New Orleans region

Several of the trainers here have some very impressive clients competing in figure , you might try hooking up with one of them

Correct assumption but she has decided to not spend any more $ on somebody that is not in the same city as where she lives. No more long distance relationships w sending pics back n forth and getting the same diet via email that 100 other chicks get.

gulfcoast · Jun 10, 2010

tenny said:
the mirror should answer ANY and ALL questions
that you have regarding what your asking

A mirror is only going to answer those questions AFTER she goes down that road. At this time she is standing at the fork in the road and trying to decide whether or not to incorporate Nolva in her precontest prep.

Based on research the following seems like a possible protocol

Week 1 5mg ED
Week 2 10mg ED
Week 3 15mg ED
Week 4 20mg ED
Week 5 20mg ED
Week 6 20mg ED
Showtime
Week 7 10mg ED

tenny · Jun 10, 2010

well if she dont look appropiate
at a certain point in time
then you need to change something
to LOOK appropiate

shes been down the road already
as youve stated

just tweek things

gulfcoast · Jun 10, 2010

tenny said:
well if she dont look appropiate
at a certain point in time
then you need to change something
to LOOK appropiate

shes been down the road already
as youve stated

just tweek things

Bro, she can't get 10 days out and look in the mirror and say "I wish my glute tie-ins looked better" and THEN decide to take Nolva and see if that works or not.

Not trying to be a dick but if u don't know the answer to the question there is no need to keep replying.

tenny · Jun 10, 2010

gulfcoast said:
Bro, she can't get 10 days out and look in the mirror and say "I wish my glute tie-ins looked better" and THEN decide to take Nolva and see if that works or not.

Not trying to be a dick but if u don't know the answer to the question there is no need to keep replying.

not trying to be a dick either

BUT!!!!

how the fuck are we supposed to know when the fuck
she should take nolva!!!!

if your tie-ins look like shit.......then your NOT ready!!!!

no pics....no info.....no background....no diet info

you need a cyrstal ball!!!i dont have one

gulfcoast · Jun 10, 2010

tenny said:
not trying to be a dick either

BUT!!!!

how the fuck are we supposed to know when the fuck
she should take nolva!!!!

if your tie-ins look like shit.......then your NOT ready!!!!

no pics....no info.....no background....no diet info

you need a cyrstal ball!!!i dont have one

U obviously don't know when she should take it so why keep replying?

It is a pretty straightforward question and was asked simply because she doesn't want to "experiment" when many others have already figured out what works best for the majority of girls.

Have already gotten some good advice from several other guys n girls on other boards that didn't require the use of the F word in their answer.

gulfcoast · Jun 18, 2010

tenny said:
not trying to be a dick either

BUT!!!!

how the fuck are we supposed to know when the fuck
she should take nolva!!!!

if your tie-ins look like shit.......then your NOT ready!!!!

no pics....no info.....no background....no diet info

you need a cyrstal ball!!!i dont have one

I can assure u that her tie-ins do NOT look like shit - pic was taken yesterday. Only been dieting 3 weeks w NO fat burners, Clen or T3 being used n she is already looking fantastic.

oldfella · Jun 19, 2010

taking Nolva with 10 days out could actually make a big difference. By knocking down the oestrgen she should be able to dry out better and help lose a bit more of the more stubborn fatty deposits that are oestogen sensitive, like her butt, thighs and back of her hips. Ten days when you are in a contest prep can make a huge difference. It is usually the last two to three weeks that the business end kicks in. Just food for thought!

pesty4077 · Jun 19, 2010

tenny said:
not trying to be a dick either

BUT!!!!

how the fuck are we supposed to know when the fuck
she should take nolva!!!!

if your tie-ins look like shit.......then your NOT ready!!!!

no pics....no info.....no background....no diet info

you need a cyrstal ball!!!i dont have one

I am going to have to agree with this. You are asking questions about something as detail as prep and we don't know the full story on her.

eassemian · Jun 24, 2010

bro i know u are asking a specific question but the thing is just cause it works for one doesnt mean it will work for her and some people may take it for 6 weeks and some may need only for the the last 20 days...so either way she will have to experiment and figure out what dosage work and when she needs to take it and how soon it takes affect...i agree that she needs someone closer to actually see her not do the pics thing... i will say start about 6 weeks out and do for a couple of weeks and see how her body reacts and if its good then either continue or back off a little and start back for the last 2 weeks but she or u would have to make that call not anyone on the boards

brojm · Jun 29, 2010

bro....20mg/day for the last 5 weeks will do the trick....I don't need to see pics or anythings else. Its pretty straightforward. Nolvadex isn't like testosterone...It will help with the last little bit of estrogen problems. Wont really see a overly dramatic difference. Just tighter in the ass and hips..Hope this helps

gulfcoast · Jun 30, 2010

brojm said:
bro....20mg/day for the last 5 weeks will do the trick....I don't need to see pics or anythings else. Its pretty straightforward. Nolvadex isn't like testosterone...It will help with the last little bit of estrogen problems. Wont really see a overly dramatic difference. Just tighter in the ass and hips..Hope this helps

Now how hard was that? LOL

I guess if u asked some on here what is the general consensus for a basic first cycle for an athletic build guy they would need to know his hometown, shoe size, college degree, dog's name, brand of toothpaste, political affiliation and whether he is a boxer/brief guy before they could answer.

The rest of us would simply say that through years of trial n error many believe that 12 weeks of Test E/C @ 250mg 2x/wk followed 2 weeks later by a 4 week PCT of 50mg Clomid/20mg Nolva ED would be a good starting point.

tenny · Jun 30, 2010

gulfcoast said:
Now how hard was that? LOL

I guess if u asked some on here what is the general consensus for a basic first cycle for an athletic build guy they would need to know his hometown, shoe size, college degree, dog's name, brand of toothpaste, political affiliation and whether he is a boxer/brief guy before they could answer.

The rest of us would simply say that through years of trial n error many believe that 12 weeks of Test E/C @ 250mg 2x/wk followed 2 weeks later by a 4 week PCT of 50mg Clomid/20mg Nolva ED would be a good starting point.

lmaoo.....all he did was agree with YOUR nonsense!

dosent matter anyway

hope she does well

tell her I said good luck

mo chuisle · Jun 30, 2010

Do you really think all that stuff is necessary for a Figure competitor??

To each their own, I guess. Best of luck to her.

gulfcoast · Jun 30, 2010

mo chuisle said:
Do you really think all that stuff is necessary for a Figure competitor?? To each their own, I guess. Best of luck to her.

Nope - all the girls winning the national level shows r completely natural n r just blessed w great genetics. They achieved their look through nothing more than dedication, spot on diets and tons of cardio.