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Haldy

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just been doing a bit of thinking,

from my reading of different conversions on here and other boards i see varying levels of ba in the recipes

ba's primary use seems to be to keep a solution sterile rather than increase the solubility of a hormone in solution.

and bb is used to increase the solubility of the hormone in a solution

so why do we see varying levels of ba?

could we not disolve the hormone we are using in solution, using primarily bb as the solvent to hold it in solution, and use the minimum amount of ba to keep the solution sterile. i understand that the ba is more water soluble and leaches from the depot in the body more readily than bb. so if we are using ba to increase the solubility of a hormone in solution, as the ba leaches from the depot the hormone would begin to crystalize causing pain. this would only happen if the ba was used to increase solubility.

just my thoughts

Haldy
 
Found this on fitnessgeared, it was posted by DangerousGround. Hope it's of some help to you.

Benzyl Alcohol is often the primary solvent and sometime the only solvent in a given formula. Its primary function is as a sterilizing agent. However, due to its solvency power it is often used to keep hormones in solution with oil or other vehicles. It is also one of the thinnest (that is best for viscosity reduction) The major drawback to this solvent is that it tends to make for painful injections if the concentration goes above 5%. (This is true for any low molecular weight alcohol). Less than this tends to be painless for most people.
Technical info: CAS # 100-51-6, Density is 1.05, Molecular weight is 108.14, Boiling point is 401f, Water solubility is 4.29g in 100ml.

Benzyl Benzoate is the next common solvent on the list. It is not nearly as strong and much heavier than the benzyl alcohol so benzyl benzoate is used primarily for its latent affects in the depot. Namely it helps keep the hormone in solution at the injection site after the more water-soluble benzyl alcohol has leached from the depot. benzyl benzoate is constructed of two benzene rings bridged by a carbonyl group, this making the solvent extremely hydrophobic. It is also painless at low levels and nearly painless at 15-20% for most people.

BA sterilizes and is closer to a "super-solvent" so to speak then BB, BB is a good solvent but does not sterilize but also does not bring the pain BA does so you should always use small amounts of BA and more BB

Pittbull
 
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