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Cool Chase Irons video discussing why he has downsized 50lbs

I don’t think it’s classed as bumping a thread if people were active on it the same day 😅

Also careful I nearly got banned off here for suggesting he was financially invested in his GH and whatever else pushing but I do believe you’re totally right

really? thats crazy it seems super obvious to me, the guys obviously no rocket scientist in the brain department, (lives in a one bedroom with a newborn and buys an incredibly overpriced car and a gym instead of a larger space for his family)

I could be wrong but it just seemed like a super big red flag haha
 
really? thats crazy it seems super obvious to me, the guys obviously no rocket scientist in the brain department, (lives in a one bedroom with a newborn and buys an incredibly overpriced car and a gym instead of a larger space for his family)

I could be wrong but it just seemed like a super big red flag haha

And what exactly have you done for the world?

You've got some pretty strong opinions about people you clearly dont know.
 
And what exactly have you done for the world?

You've got some pretty strong opinions about people you clearly dont know.
nothing crazy, not claiming im perfect , just dont like the bloke and those were my reasons, fine if you dont agree
 
Wow guys this was one of the most entertaining threads I’ve read in a long time! Kinda sad to see some of your opinions of me especially the ones that have actually met me within the past couple years… But I guess that’s just how it goes. I hope you all meet your goals in bodybuilding and love every minute of it.
 
really? thats crazy it seems super obvious to me, the guys obviously no rocket scientist in the brain department, (lives in a one bedroom with a newborn and buys an incredibly overpriced car and a gym instead of a larger space for his family)

I could be wrong but it just seemed like a super big red flag haha
Pretty sure i live in a 4 bedroom…. Oh maybe you’re thinking about the condo we used to live in that i rent out now. Yaaa, no that was 2 bedroom. And I’ve had my gym since 2022, and my 6000 pound BMW was a business write off but what do i know.. I’m obviously no “rocket scientist in the brain department”. You might have it all figured out though.
 
So @ChaseIrons


We are dying do know why you have undergone such dramatic weight loss

Though I understand if you don’t want to tell us - with how much shit people talked about you - behind your back
because it couldn’t be what i said in the video i made… right? I literally said in the video most of you will not be able to understand it. This thread proves my point
 
because it couldn’t be what i said in the video i made… right? I literally said in the video most of you will not be able to understand it. This thread proves my point

To be fair, I think you got some flak because a lot of us here on PM are dads, and not all that young.
My daughter turns 20 next month, and I’ll be 60 in three years. And we all love our families.

We know what you are feeling, it’s just that the shift is so dramatic and severe in such a short time that it elicits disbelief.
That doesn’t mean you don't deserve to be believed.

I think a lot of the 'judgment' comes from your years of taking very high doses while conveying excellent health metrics.
I think if you step outside of your own perspective, you can probably understand at least some of where that skepticism is coming from.
 
I’ve got a buddy name Ike that is real good at anything he does. But he can only do one thing at a time, and it’s all in. Complete time and effort focused on just that one goal.
No “balancing it’s just not how he does things. He is an extremist with tunnel vision.
I have 10 different fingers in 10 different pies right now.

I can’t wait to be back to focusing on just 2 or 3 things.

I feel like a squirrel running around getting ready for winter.
 
To be fair, I think you got some flak because a lot of us here on PM are dads, and not all that young.
My daughter turns 20 next month, and I’ll be 60 in three years. And we all love our families.

We know what you are feeling, it’s just that the shift is so dramatic and severe in such a short time that it elicits disbelief.
That doesn’t mean you don't deserve to be believed.

I think a lot of the 'judgment' comes from your years of taking very high doses while conveying excellent health metrics.
I think if you step outside of your own perspective, you can probably understand at least some of where that skepticism is coming from.
To be fair, my experimentation with very high doses was from 2023-2025. From 2010-2021 it was all basic boring shit with the occasional bad advice from someone on get big or gh15 forum. 2022 i took completely off for fertility.

From my perspective, what life benefit does staying over 200 pounds give me? Give me 1 reason to continue being 200+. It doesn’t serve me in any way anymore.

Once i knew that i had no reason to hold onto what i was doing it was really easy to make the decision to test out the research doses/protocol of Reta and what they are putting everyone through in the TRIUMPH trials to see for myself how it works.

When you stop focusing on protein, when you stop training with weights daily and drop to 1-2 sessions a week where you really don’t give AF about maintaining any size, When you prioritize cardio training, and when you go into a serious caloric deficit because it’s easy to with 12mg of Reta and then on top of it go from using 500-1000mg of test and other stuff to dropping to 250 test a week and nothing else at all…. It’s pretty easy to go from an unnatural 245 to 195 in 16 weeks. I know… amazing right? 😂 I’m literally doing everything you shouldn’t do if you want to maintain muscle mass because i do genuinely want to go back to a normal natural size like i was when i was 20.

In 2022 i came off everything for the year for fertility, from Feb to Feb. that year i went from 260 to 245 because i was still eating and training and not doing all the things i am now to shrink. I learned that year it is VERY hard to drop size and you have to actively be perusing it and pushing hard to make it happen. If i wanted to stay 220-240 i think i could have maintained that on trt with proper eating and training and none of you would be saying this ridiculous shit about oh he never had a base or any real muscle 😂 guys I’ve been lifting weights since I was 13 give me a goddamn break. I grew back then from a husky 130 pound wrestler to a fit 171 pounder at 18 with bodybuilding and loved everything about it from then until now and started steroids at 23 at a lean 160 and grew to a peak weight of 285 at 37.

I am actively perusing muscle loss and downsizing. Turns out I’m pretty good at it. I’m sorry if it’s not what you all want to see me do but do any of you know how much easier life has been after letting go of bodybuilding? OMG to not worry about food and training everyday or what i look like is so fucking liberating after only being concerned about it since i was made fun of as a thick kid with gyno. I have so much extra time on my hands to dive deeper into other things, i love it.

And the catalyst to all of this was realizing how much my family needs me and how much I want to be there for them long term and when all things are equal there is no denying that the guy at 170 pounds and 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers has a better shot at outliving the 220+ pounder at 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers when both of these people have a 16 year history of steroid use/abuse.

Yes i have been the guy blasting gear and maintaining great blood pressure and great bloodwork for the last 3 years but there’s a lot that i don’t know, that none of us know. I’ve gotten clear full body MRIs and CT scans and from what I can tell I’ve gotten out unscathed but you don’t know what you don’t know and I think I’ve rolled the dice long enough, and it just isn’t worth it anymore. Bodybuilding has served its purpose for me. It built me a life i never imagined I would get to live and I want to continue enjoy that life and it turns out i don’t need to continue bodybuilding to do that and if that makes me someone that never truly enjoyed bodybuilding and training because I’m not going to take it to the fuckin grave then so be it. I’m not a bodybuilder
 
To be fair, my experimentation with very high doses was from 2023-2025. From 2010-2021 it was all basic boring shit with the occasional bad advice from someone on get big or gh15 forum. 2022 i took completely off for fertility.

From my perspective, what life benefit does staying over 200 pounds give me? Give me 1 reason to continue being 200+. It doesn’t serve me in any way anymore.

Once i knew that i had no reason to hold onto what i was doing it was really easy to make the decision to test out the research doses/protocol of Reta and what they are putting everyone through in the TRIUMPH trials to see for myself how it works.

When you stop focusing on protein, when you stop training with weights daily and drop to 1-2 sessions a week where you really don’t give AF about maintaining any size, When you prioritize cardio training, and when you go into a serious caloric deficit because it’s easy to with 12mg of Reta and then on top of it go from using 500-1000mg of test and other stuff to dropping to 250 test a week and nothing else at all…. It’s pretty easy to go from an unnatural 245 to 195 in 16 weeks. I know… amazing right? 😂 I’m literally doing everything you shouldn’t do if you want to maintain muscle mass because i do genuinely want to go back to a normal natural size like i was when i was 20.

In 2022 i came off everything for the year for fertility, from Feb to Feb. that year i went from 260 to 245 because i was still eating and training and not doing all the things i am now to shrink. I learned that year it is VERY hard to drop size and you have to actively be perusing it and pushing hard to make it happen. If i wanted to stay 220-240 i think i could have maintained that on trt with proper eating and training and none of you would be saying this ridiculous shit about oh he never had a base or any real muscle 😂 guys I’ve been lifting weights since I was 13 give me a goddamn break. I grew back then from a husky 130 pound wrestler to a fit 171 pounder at 18 with bodybuilding and loved everything about it from then until now and started steroids at 23 at a lean 160 and grew to a peak weight of 285 at 37.

I am actively perusing muscle loss and downsizing. Turns out I’m pretty good at it. I’m sorry if it’s not what you all want to see me do but do any of you know how much easier life has been after letting go of bodybuilding? OMG to not worry about food and training everyday or what i look like is so fucking liberating after only being concerned about it since i was made fun of as a thick kid with gyno. I have so much extra time on my hands to dive deeper into other things, i love it.

And the catalyst to all of this was realizing how much my family needs me and how much I want to be there for them long term and when all things are equal there is no denying that the guy at 170 pounds and 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers has a better shot at outliving the 220+ pounder at 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers when both of these people have a 16 year history of steroid use/abuse.

Yes i have been the guy blasting gear and maintaining great blood pressure and great bloodwork for the last 3 years but there’s a lot that i don’t know, that none of us know. I’ve gotten clear full body MRIs and CT scans and from what I can tell I’ve gotten out unscathed but you don’t know what you don’t know and I think I’ve rolled the dice long enough, and it just isn’t worth it anymore. Bodybuilding has served its purpose for me. It built me a life i never imagined I would get to live and I want to continue enjoy that life and it turns out i don’t need to continue bodybuilding to do that and if that makes me someone that never truly enjoyed bodybuilding and training because I’m not going to take it to the fuckin grave then so be it. I’m not a bodybuilder
We are all just one stroke away from being a drooling corpse in a bed, you achieved what you wanted to and now you turned around with another focus, good on ya.
 
To be fair, my experimentation with very high doses was from 2023-2025. From 2010-2021 it was all basic boring shit with the occasional bad advice from someone on get big or gh15 forum. 2022 i took completely off for fertility.

From my perspective, what life benefit does staying over 200 pounds give me? Give me 1 reason to continue being 200+. It doesn’t serve me in any way anymore.

Once i knew that i had no reason to hold onto what i was doing it was really easy to make the decision to test out the research doses/protocol of Reta and what they are putting everyone through in the TRIUMPH trials to see for myself how it works.

When you stop focusing on protein, when you stop training with weights daily and drop to 1-2 sessions a week where you really don’t give AF about maintaining any size, When you prioritize cardio training, and when you go into a serious caloric deficit because it’s easy to with 12mg of Reta and then on top of it go from using 500-1000mg of test and other stuff to dropping to 250 test a week and nothing else at all…. It’s pretty easy to go from an unnatural 245 to 195 in 16 weeks. I know… amazing right? 😂 I’m literally doing everything you shouldn’t do if you want to maintain muscle mass because i do genuinely want to go back to a normal natural size like i was when i was 20.

In 2022 i came off everything for the year for fertility, from Feb to Feb. that year i went from 260 to 245 because i was still eating and training and not doing all the things i am now to shrink. I learned that year it is VERY hard to drop size and you have to actively be perusing it and pushing hard to make it happen. If i wanted to stay 220-240 i think i could have maintained that on trt with proper eating and training and none of you would be saying this ridiculous shit about oh he never had a base or any real muscle 😂 guys I’ve been lifting weights since I was 13 give me a goddamn break. I grew back then from a husky 130 pound wrestler to a fit 171 pounder at 18 with bodybuilding and loved everything about it from then until now and started steroids at 23 at a lean 160 and grew to a peak weight of 285 at 37.

I am actively perusing muscle loss and downsizing. Turns out I’m pretty good at it. I’m sorry if it’s not what you all want to see me do but do any of you know how much easier life has been after letting go of bodybuilding? OMG to not worry about food and training everyday or what i look like is so fucking liberating after only being concerned about it since i was made fun of as a thick kid with gyno. I have so much extra time on my hands to dive deeper into other things, i love it.

And the catalyst to all of this was realizing how much my family needs me and how much I want to be there for them long term and when all things are equal there is no denying that the guy at 170 pounds and 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers has a better shot at outliving the 220+ pounder at 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers when both of these people have a 16 year history of steroid use/abuse.

Yes i have been the guy blasting gear and maintaining great blood pressure and great bloodwork for the last 3 years but there’s a lot that i don’t know, that none of us know. I’ve gotten clear full body MRIs and CT scans and from what I can tell I’ve gotten out unscathed but you don’t know what you don’t know and I think I’ve rolled the dice long enough, and it just isn’t worth it anymore. Bodybuilding has served its purpose for me. It built me a life i never imagined I would get to live and I want to continue enjoy that life and it turns out i don’t need to continue bodybuilding to do that and if that makes me someone that never truly enjoyed bodybuilding and training because I’m not going to take it to the fuckin grave then so be it. I’m not a bodybuilder

Good on you, you managed to do what’s most never will

For most bodybuilding becomes the full identity and reason to exist which often doesn’t end well

You managed to pick it up and let it go again like any true hobby I think many could reflect on that
 
To be fair, my experimentation with very high doses was from 2023-2025. From 2010-2021 it was all basic boring shit with the occasional bad advice from someone on get big or gh15 forum. 2022 i took completely off for fertility.

From my perspective, what life benefit does staying over 200 pounds give me? Give me 1 reason to continue being 200+. It doesn’t serve me in any way anymore.

Once i knew that i had no reason to hold onto what i was doing it was really easy to make the decision to test out the research doses/protocol of Reta and what they are putting everyone through in the TRIUMPH trials to see for myself how it works.

When you stop focusing on protein, when you stop training with weights daily and drop to 1-2 sessions a week where you really don’t give AF about maintaining any size, When you prioritize cardio training, and when you go into a serious caloric deficit because it’s easy to with 12mg of Reta and then on top of it go from using 500-1000mg of test and other stuff to dropping to 250 test a week and nothing else at all…. It’s pretty easy to go from an unnatural 245 to 195 in 16 weeks. I know… amazing right? 😂 I’m literally doing everything you shouldn’t do if you want to maintain muscle mass because i do genuinely want to go back to a normal natural size like i was when i was 20.

In 2022 i came off everything for the year for fertility, from Feb to Feb. that year i went from 260 to 245 because i was still eating and training and not doing all the things i am now to shrink. I learned that year it is VERY hard to drop size and you have to actively be perusing it and pushing hard to make it happen. If i wanted to stay 220-240 i think i could have maintained that on trt with proper eating and training and none of you would be saying this ridiculous shit about oh he never had a base or any real muscle 😂 guys I’ve been lifting weights since I was 13 give me a goddamn break. I grew back then from a husky 130 pound wrestler to a fit 171 pounder at 18 with bodybuilding and loved everything about it from then until now and started steroids at 23 at a lean 160 and grew to a peak weight of 285 at 37.

I am actively perusing muscle loss and downsizing. Turns out I’m pretty good at it. I’m sorry if it’s not what you all want to see me do but do any of you know how much easier life has been after letting go of bodybuilding? OMG to not worry about food and training everyday or what i look like is so fucking liberating after only being concerned about it since i was made fun of as a thick kid with gyno. I have so much extra time on my hands to dive deeper into other things, i love it.

And the catalyst to all of this was realizing how much my family needs me and how much I want to be there for them long term and when all things are equal there is no denying that the guy at 170 pounds and 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers has a better shot at outliving the 220+ pounder at 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers when both of these people have a 16 year history of steroid use/abuse.

Yes i have been the guy blasting gear and maintaining great blood pressure and great bloodwork for the last 3 years but there’s a lot that i don’t know, that none of us know. I’ve gotten clear full body MRIs and CT scans and from what I can tell I’ve gotten out unscathed but you don’t know what you don’t know and I think I’ve rolled the dice long enough, and it just isn’t worth it anymore. Bodybuilding has served its purpose for me. It built me a life i never imagined I would get to live and I want to continue enjoy that life and it turns out i don’t need to continue bodybuilding to do that and if that makes me someone that never truly enjoyed bodybuilding and training because I’m not going to take it to the fuckin grave then so be it. I’m not a bodybuilder
Well explained and more than some of us may deserve, including myself. I only wanted to articulate my sense of why some may have said what they did - not that it was correct.

You've obviously made a clean break and have no regrets. That's something few could do.

I'll be a bodybuilder to the day I die (which should be quite a bit later yet!) but I've always been about moderation and that has served me well.

I wish you all the best of luck and you have my admiration for laying it all out when you didn't have to.
 
To be fair, my experimentation with very high doses was from 2023-2025. From 2010-2021 it was all basic boring shit with the occasional bad advice from someone on get big or gh15 forum. 2022 i took completely off for fertility.

From my perspective, what life benefit does staying over 200 pounds give me? Give me 1 reason to continue being 200+. It doesn’t serve me in any way anymore.

Once i knew that i had no reason to hold onto what i was doing it was really easy to make the decision to test out the research doses/protocol of Reta and what they are putting everyone through in the TRIUMPH trials to see for myself how it works.

When you stop focusing on protein, when you stop training with weights daily and drop to 1-2 sessions a week where you really don’t give AF about maintaining any size, When you prioritize cardio training, and when you go into a serious caloric deficit because it’s easy to with 12mg of Reta and then on top of it go from using 500-1000mg of test and other stuff to dropping to 250 test a week and nothing else at all…. It’s pretty easy to go from an unnatural 245 to 195 in 16 weeks. I know… amazing right? 😂 I’m literally doing everything you shouldn’t do if you want to maintain muscle mass because i do genuinely want to go back to a normal natural size like i was when i was 20.

In 2022 i came off everything for the year for fertility, from Feb to Feb. that year i went from 260 to 245 because i was still eating and training and not doing all the things i am now to shrink. I learned that year it is VERY hard to drop size and you have to actively be perusing it and pushing hard to make it happen. If i wanted to stay 220-240 i think i could have maintained that on trt with proper eating and training and none of you would be saying this ridiculous shit about oh he never had a base or any real muscle 😂 guys I’ve been lifting weights since I was 13 give me a goddamn break. I grew back then from a husky 130 pound wrestler to a fit 171 pounder at 18 with bodybuilding and loved everything about it from then until now and started steroids at 23 at a lean 160 and grew to a peak weight of 285 at 37.

I am actively perusing muscle loss and downsizing. Turns out I’m pretty good at it. I’m sorry if it’s not what you all want to see me do but do any of you know how much easier life has been after letting go of bodybuilding? OMG to not worry about food and training everyday or what i look like is so fucking liberating after only being concerned about it since i was made fun of as a thick kid with gyno. I have so much extra time on my hands to dive deeper into other things, i love it.

And the catalyst to all of this was realizing how much my family needs me and how much I want to be there for them long term and when all things are equal there is no denying that the guy at 170 pounds and 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers has a better shot at outliving the 220+ pounder at 8% bodyfat with all perfect health markers when both of these people have a 16 year history of steroid use/abuse.

Yes i have been the guy blasting gear and maintaining great blood pressure and great bloodwork for the last 3 years but there’s a lot that i don’t know, that none of us know. I’ve gotten clear full body MRIs and CT scans and from what I can tell I’ve gotten out unscathed but you don’t know what you don’t know and I think I’ve rolled the dice long enough, and it just isn’t worth it anymore. Bodybuilding has served its purpose for me. It built me a life i never imagined I would get to live and I want to continue enjoy that life and it turns out i don’t need to continue bodybuilding to do that and if that makes me someone that never truly enjoyed bodybuilding and training because I’m not going to take it to the fuckin grave then so be it. I’m not a bodybuilder
This is a very reasonable response and for you to come on here after getting shit on by quite a few of us is respectable. I stated previously that you are a likable guy and not a bad person whatsoever, that you do love your family and it shows.

But part of me being a businessman myself can’t help but see there is an end game here that involves profit. And there’s not a damn thing wrong with that. You’re not a stupid person, you’re involved with people like Hormozi that know the game. Whatever upcoming endeavors you have and the current ones will grow because of this up and down weight journey. Bodybuilding or not.

That’s just the way I see it. But I’m just an asshole that lifts weights, what do I know. Do what you gotta do Chase, your family and your ability to take care of them financially are all that matters. Nobody here is going to pay your bills.
 
This is a very reasonable response and for you to come on here after getting shit on by quite a few of us is respectable. I stated previously that you are a likable guy and not a bad person whatsoever, that you do love your family and it shows.

But part of me being a businessman myself can’t help but see there is an end game here that involves profit. And there’s not a damn thing wrong with that. You’re not a stupid person, you’re involved with people like Hormozi that know the game. Whatever upcoming endeavors you have and the current ones will grow because of this up and down weight journey. Bodybuilding or not.

That’s just the way I see it. But I’m just an asshole that lifts weights, what do I know. Do what you gotta do Chase, your family and your ability to take care of them financially are all that matters. Nobody here is going to pay your bills.

With regards to any sort of business benefits, I realized after the fact that it could play into what I’m doing in a big way. Yes we are nearly ready to roll out our telehealth company. Could I promote that at 220-240 successfully? Absolutely.. probably would get more attention looking like a stud promoting trt and peptides. One could argue downsizing is a bad business decision for the promoting future. There are pros and cons to both sides. First thing Alex said when he saw me was “holy shit, you’ve lost weight”. It was no business strategy by either of us to do this. He is more of a marketing genius outside of me and knows how to build a bulletproof business from the inside out, both of which i have zero experience with and he is a goldmine for me in that regard. If anything he wants me to remove myself from my businesses (remove key man risk) and maybe I’ll eventually get there. Regardless of what i do business will continue per usual as long as i share that im still alive and doing something and answering people’s questions in the best way that I can. There are also other hobbies I’ve picked up that downsizing is going to greatly lend a hand to that i don’t think of until after the fact. In October when I’m allowed to make another YouTube channel I’ll likely be ready to start sharing those types of things. Maybe a channel dedicated to guns… maybe cars… maybe endurance training. We will see.
 
With regards to any sort of business benefits, I realized after the fact that it could play into what I’m doing in a big way. Yes we are nearly ready to roll out our telehealth company. Could I promote that at 220-240 successfully? Absolutely.. probably would get more attention looking like a stud promoting trt and peptides. One could argue downsizing is a bad business decision for the promoting future. There are pros and cons to both sides. First thing Alex said when he saw me was “holy shit, you’ve lost weight”. It was no business strategy by either of us to do this. He is more of a marketing genius outside of me and knows how to build a bulletproof business from the inside out, both of which i have zero experience with and he is a goldmine for me in that regard. If anything he wants me to remove myself from my businesses (remove key man risk) and maybe I’ll eventually get there. Regardless of what i do business will continue per usual as long as i share that im still alive and doing something and answering people’s questions in the best way that I can. There are also other hobbies I’ve picked up that downsizing is going to greatly lend a hand to that i don’t think of until after the fact. In October when I’m allowed to make another YouTube channel I’ll likely be ready to start sharing those types of things. Maybe a channel dedicated to guns… maybe cars… maybe endurance training. We will see.

Would be really interesting to see what new hobbies you get into

I think sometimes as bodybuilders we’re limited occasionally by size but more so mentally because anything that isn’t bodybuilding means it’s taking away from bodybuilding (lie many of us tell ourselves when we’re 5/10/15 years into training for mr 28th best physique in our local gym) as there’s plenty of damn jacked guys who dont necessarily commit to the mental identity of a bodybuilder that do tonnes of stuff outside of anything gym related and still look often better than us “hardcore” guys

I love bodybuilding but I don’t think it HAS to consume us and become our only way to express ourselves unless we want it to

Very interested to follow and hope you do post about it

People say there’s life after bodybuilding but I don’t understand why we can’t have life during bodybuilding no one can guarantee there will be an after
 
People say there’s life after bodybuilding but I don’t understand why we can’t have life during bodybuilding no one can guarantee there will be an after
I'm a bodybuilder and have done it nonstop for 41 years, but somehow it only consumed me for a few of those.

I think longevity in the sport - and life - requires us to spread ourselves out a bit.

I have always had interests outside bodybuilding, albeit ones that didn't clash meaningfully.

In most cases we can let up on the gas a bit, smell the roses, and be no worse off in our performance. Maybe better.
 
I'm a bodybuilder and have done it nonstop for 41 years, but somehow it only consumed me for a few of those.

I think longevity in the sport - and life - requires us to spread ourselves out a bit.

I have always had interests outside bodybuilding, albeit ones that didn't clash meaningfully.

In most cases we can let up on the gas a bit, smell the roses, and be no worse off in our performance. Maybe better.

100% agree

I know of a fair few guys who are still living at home into their late 20’s and early 30’s. Not having any life at all outside of bodybuilding and will probably never even turn pro let alone be world class. But are living that life based solely upon this with the “because I love it” dropped in here and there when feeling challenged

Which I think is where people can get confused it sounds appealing hearing the guy who gave it everything and became the best in the world and had success,
Fame and money follow suit but apply that same thing and the end result is 5th place in a local amateur show and nothing more it suddenly becomes less appealing and is the reality for 9/10 of us

I think bodybuilding attracts people with extreme mentalities and it feeds into that all or nothing way of life and to justify it to themselves they portray it as the only
Way to be if you’re serious about it because on some level they probably want a way out of the mindset

Just my perspective on it from what I see and thoughts I’ve had about my own journey
 

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