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Crippling fatigue & trt

helix139

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I hate to start another thread; I know this is like beating a dead horse. I have an old post regarding this same problem, but I was hoping that someone has additional insight. Out of 7 days, I have maybe 3 fantastic days where I feel great, can workout, do chores, and many other honey-dos. I am on underground shit; I am sure it is underdosed from what I thought was reputable. I had prescribed trt from a urologist and pcp, but both had no clue what to do for an estradiol level of 44 when I felt like crap. I have been on testosterone cyp 125 mg biweekly IM for about eight years and have sought the advice of 3 providers, including a famous trt clinic in town. Many from this forum have been very helpful in suggesting pregnenolone, boron, stinging nettle, lowering the dose, changing the dosing routine to 2x a week, changing to sub-q injections, DMT supplement, zinc supplement, dietary changes, increasing sleep, drinking a gallon of water daily, and increasing my cardio and compound movements. Thanks to all of you who understand and took the time to respond. Unfortunately, no suggestions ever work even when monthly labs are done to determine the free t and estradiol level; the estradiol levels always vary despite equal dosing.

The only explanation is that the research liquids are underdosed. This excuse seems logical as it is near impossible to find an honest source for anabolics today. Sorry for the long rant. BTW, this site has grown with sponsors!
 

Brock456

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What does your blood work look like?

125mg every 2 weeks?

can’t say much without seeing bloodwork, but why not try 125mg EW? Or try a different injection frequency? Maybe Emerics ED frequency?
 

USMuscle9403

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Try every day. Yes it's a pain in the ass, but give it a shot. Sure there's fuckers faking test but damn bro get some real test, atleast!

Obviously get bloods to see where you really are
 

helix139

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When I was taking 125 twice a week, my test was 435 on day 3.5, free was 145, e2 12. Frustrating how there are so many sources that screw so many people.
 

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When I was taking 125 twice a week, my test was 435 on day 3.5, free was 145, e2 12. Frustrating how there are so many sources that screw so many people.
If I'm reading that correctly your total dose was 250mg weekly? That's very low levels, even for me, as I respond poorly with dose vs serum levels. That E2 being 12 is pretty low and could be your fatigue issue. I feel best all around at 40-ish.
 

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It is going to be hard to dial anything in if you can't trust the quality/quantity of the medication being used. Step one needs to be obtaining quality medication.
 

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None of your information shows any accuracy, in any dimension you are talking about. From details about your actual fatigue symptoms to timing on bloodwork, and biggest of all, the suggestions you talked about that didn't work had zero details about what you did and how it went.

You need a lot more details if you want us to help you, your perception on what is working and what is not is definitely not accurate because you aren't paying attention to these details.

As other have suggested, if you aren't using an AI, do 10mg/day (of real prescription test) and give it a couple months for E2 to settle down. Your levels won't be too low on that amount because you can't be, turns out 10mg is 10mg both inside and outside the body. The differences are rates of metabolism, and when you do daily dosing, rates of metabolism don't matter because testosterone is a pulsatile hormone.
 

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