Cruising with EQ

[deathfromabove]

Hello everybody. I started a bulking phase but due to my terrible overeating it didnt go as well as i could,i was eating only clean bodybuilding foods but i fcked up because i overate. So some stats, i am 5'7 sitting @ 210 lbs currently with around 15% body fat. When i started i was like 185 10% body fat. I gained all this weight in 10 weeks so i am became that fat. I was using these 10 weeks 500 test 250 ΕQ + 5 iu of GH. I am not going to keep bulking because 15% is already a shitty body fat and i am starting to lose my definition. So, i want to stay in a cruise dose and lose that bf in 10 weeks with the addition of reta. My idea is to keep EQ in a low dose(i aromatize by looking the bottle of testosterone ) like 100 mgs per week and keep the test @ 200mg per week so 300mg total androgens. I am thinking this is more than enough considering my stats to keep all my muscle mass during the heavy deficit,am i right? You think its a good dose to preserve my muscle mass? Also anyone using EQ on cruise? I am very vigorous on my electrolytes and hydration my hematocrit on cycle was just 47,5 so with the lower doses i will be completely fine. What are your thoughts?

PS: i will keep the gh too in the 2-3 ius dosage to let my body regain the insulin sensitivity i lost.

 

[bigzzz]

It's fine.

 

[deathfromabove]

It's fine.

thanks for the reply.

 

[Swifto]

Yes, I've done this, but be careful not to lower e2 too much.

2:1 ratio usually works well.

 

[specter]

So you lost muscle and gained nothing but fat in 10 weeks ?

 

[Fleezy]

So you lost muscle and gained nothing but fat in 10 weeks ?

he even got shorter

 

[deathfromabove]

Lol ok i accept the trolling i deserve it. That's my rough estimations of body fat i maybe false in my calculations. I surely gained muscle everyone's noticed it but i lost the bodybuilding definition. Thanks guys

 

[tommyguns2]

So you lost muscle and gained nothing but fat in 10 weeks ?

10% BF @ 185 is 166.5 lbs of lean mass/other
15% BF @ 210 is 178.5 lbs of lean mass/other

Looks like he gained 12 lbs of lean mass/other.

 

[ferraribrad]

If your E2/estrogen shot up with the blast, you might be carrying a lot of extra water weight that is being masked as "fat"

 

[deathfromabove]

If your E2/estrogen shot up with the blast, you might be carrying a lot of extra water weight that is being masked as "fat"

Estradiol never passed the 35 range

 

[cage99]

As you’re well aware your diet will dictate how your recomposition will go. It seems that your diet wasn’t great for the latest bulk. So I’d get that dialed in 100% before you begin to slim down.

Personally I’d be more concerned about my macro intake right now than my AAS dosages. Just using 300mg/week of testosterone will be plenty to hold onto your muscle mass while you slowly lower your calorie intake.

Start by lowering calories by 300-500/per day and ride that for a couple weeks. If things are progressing in the right direction for you in the mirror then keep it going. If you’re not seeing changes then lower the calories a lil more.

Just have to be consistent day in and day out is all. If you take your diet serious for at least 8-12 weeks you’ll see drastic improvement in your body’s composition.

Cage

 

[need4tren]

I would actually not use eq on a cruise, out of everything it does have one of the biggest effects on bloods, cruises are meant to get healthy, just do some test… or test and very low mast

 

[deathfromabove]

As you’re well aware your diet will dictate how your recomposition will go. It seems that your diet wasn’t great for the latest bulk. So I’d get that dialed in 100% before you begin to slim down.

Personally I’d be more concerned about my macro intake right now than my AAS dosages. Just using 300mg/week of testosterone will be plenty to hold onto your muscle mass while you slowly lower your calorie intake.

Start by lowering calories by 300-500/per day and ride that for a couple weeks. If things are progressing in the right direction for you in the mirror then keep it going. If you’re not seeing changes then lower the calories a lil more.

Just have to be consistent day in and day out is all. If you take your diet serious for at least 8-12 weeks you’ll see drastic improvement in your body’s composition.

Cage

Thanks for the comment. I am aware of my mistakes and i won't repeat them again. Already 2 days in diet and everything goes smooth 4 lbs down. As far as testosterone i aromarize heavy and so that's why i wanted to go with 200 test 100 eq to have my e2 in check. Thanks god besides my heavy automatisation i never get gyno symptoms even if my e2 rides double the range,but i get water retention and losing morning erections 100%. Eq never messes with my blood works,my body handles it very good. I don't use the option of primo or mast because i have an autoimmune skin disease and DHT derivatives fck up my skin every time i tried them

 

[deathfromabove]

I would actually not use eq on a cruise, out of everything it does have one of the biggest effects on bloods, cruises are meant to get healthy, just do some test… or test and very low mast

Eq never messes with my blood works,my body handles it very good. I don't use the option of primo or mast because i have an autoimmune skin disease and DHT derivatives fck up my skin every time i tried them for mast i am not 100% sure but primo causes me a skin reaction 5 out of 5 times i tried it so i think mast will do the same as a dht derivative. I will use eq just for 100mg per week too,your idea for mast is good as a safer option i may try it to see what happens.

 

[specter]

10% BF @ 185 is 166.5 lbs of lean mass/other
15% BF @ 210 is 178.5 lbs of lean mass/other

Looks like he gained 12 lbs of lean mass/other.

15% of 210 is 31,5lbs
10% of 185 is 18,5lbs

So no he gained 12lbs of fat.. ah yeah my dumb ass left out the 12lbs leanmass/other

 

[deathfromabove]

15% of 210 is 31,5lbs
10% of 185 is 18,5lbs

So no he gained 12lbs of fat..

210-31.5= 178.5 FFM
185-18,5= 166.5 FFM

So your calculations doesn't seem right.
Fat was increased but FFM too.

 

[specter]

210-31.5= 178.5 FFM
185-18,5= 166.5 FFM

So your calculations doesn't seem right.
Fat was increased but FFM too.

Yeah i edited when i was doing the math i somehow lost about 12lbs in the math.

 

[deathfromabove]

Yeah i edited when i was doing the math i somehow lost about 12lbs in the math.

It's ok mate no hate. This is a terrible fat increase anyway so don't bother I was first time using EQ and hunger kicked the shit out of me never experienced a hunger like this in the past. Lesson learned I will get lean and restart