Cycle help brothas

[Juice Freak]

I'm planning a new cycle based on my new theory of bulking upwithout bulking out. I want a cycle that is gonna have no water retention but enought androgenic and anabolics to help me gain nuthin but hard muscle. I plan to eat around 5000Cals a day bulking and train 3x a week heavy power movements and doing cardio 3x a week on off days swimming laps for 20 to 30 mins, I have a naturally high metabolism and plan to time my carb injestion so that I don't eat carbs after my two post workout meals.


Trenbolone............75mg/daily
Masteron...............75mg/daily
Proviron.................50mg/daily
Winstrol.................50mg/daily
Anavar...................25mg/daily
Primobolan............100mg/daily
HGH.......................6 IUs daily

For 12 weeks or until any serious increases in liver values are cholesterol count.


Some feedback on this cycle would be of much assistance, as I said the goal is to bulk with only quality muscle and possible decrease bodyfat as I'm trying not to hold any water. If I need to, I will use a slight DNP cycle at the end to cut up even more. Right now my stats are 6'1" 220lbs, 11-12% bf.

 

[Ivan]

Well

You need test.

I would take EQ instead of winni, take sust at 1 amp EOD...and if you are still worried about water, have some 'dex on hand.

 

[Juice Freak]

Maybe I'll add some Test Prop in there for the test component?
I like winny over EQ though I find it makes me really hard, could just be me though. Thanks for the help.

 

[shawnfreaks]

Damn, someones going to be a pin cushion. Looks pretty decent though. I'd toss in some Test. Susp if you plan to shoot daily. Otherwise, Test. Prop.

I really dont see the point of the Anavar and Winny at the same time though. I'd save the Anavar for after the cycle to bridge with. A little too pricey to just stick in there and I usually shoot for 40-50mg daily of Anavar anyhow.

Nothing wrong with the Primobolan, but 700mg a week is MORE than plenty. I'd save it for post cycle and use it with the Anavar as a bridge.

Hence it would look more like my up coming cycle.

Masteron - 400mg/week.

EQ - 400mg/week.

Tren - somewhere around 300mg/week (Depends on the ester i'll use)

Winstrol (Oral) - 50mg/Day.

Test. Prop. - 400mg/week.

Armidex as needed. Clomid & HCG post cycle and as needed.

I'm looking to add good, clean, solid muscle this cycle with very minimal sides. Likely run the above for 12 weeks, with blood check after 6 weeks. If all is ok, i'll keep it going. After 12 weeks, i'll stop the cycle, get blood tests, get my nuts in line if needed and continue after about 4 weeks.

 

[chris250]

If you want to gain good muscle, without getting fat, then I would suggest just eating clean foods....Keep your protein intake high, and do some cardio...I dont really think that the drug program that you pick will make that much of a difference when you want to gain muscle ,although I think you need test as a base drug...If you hold water from test then use Anti-E's such as Arimadex...

a offseason cycle that I use would look something like this...

Test (aratest 250) ---1000mg to 1250mg week
Deca --- 600mg week
or Tren --- 300mg week
GH --- 4 iu's daily
Arimadex --- .5 mg EOD

good luck with your goals...\


chris

 

[MikeS]

Damn those are big $ products. And IMO its not all necessary.
Primo, anavar, winny - pick one (winny). Proviron, masterone - pick one (masterone). Keep the tren. Maybe some Eq or deca, but not necessary. Add 1g prop wk use arimidex and clomid too. Hgh is good; better with slin (post workout only).