Cycle help please !

[bigbrian58]

Bro's

I have been in the game a long time, but have had a very shitty year on the personal front, and am secound guessing myself a lot.I a have all the below gear on hand and would like to cut form my current wieght of 305lbs (26% bf)
to around my comp weight of 215lbs over an 18 week period.May add some gh and igf until 4 weeks out.Will also use low dose T3, and arimidex throughout.

Many thanks for your input.

Weeks 1-12
750mg Test E week
600mg Tren E week
600mg Deca week

Weeks 13-18
75 mg Tren ace ed
75 mg test prop ed
75 mg winnie oral ed

Will add masteron last 4 weeks and halo's last 10 days

 

[Paul Bunyan]

And I thought I was trying to lose alot of weight ! Why such a drastic drop? I'm dropping from 335 down to around 275.

PB

 

[jahras12]

thats a HUGE drop your looking at- but you have some time which is good- and imho cycling will not cut it - no pun intended- it has to be mainly focused on that diet and cardio- personally I diet(mainly for shows) with 100 mg prop/day for 8 weeks just hold on to muscle mass-and get lean and lose up to 30-40lbs of h20 and fat- I also use those fat burners more than the gear- gear should just be instituted to keep your existing muscle and help with strength -

Jon

 

[Maverick]

First thing that jumps off the page at me is 600mgs of tren enanthate a week. Why so much tren bro? Really there is no need to even be using half that mount as tren is such a potent drug. Maybe 300mgs a week at the most and thats if your an experienced user and have been on and off tren for a while. Even the most experienced user dont use that much tren. Not to mention the other reasons such as kindey stress. Second is the length. After 12 weeks of tren enanthate your going to switch up to tren acetate which is the exact same thing bust a shorter acting ester. Bro I am just trying to ehlp you here but your really gonna do some damage to you kidneys and libido with that much tren for that amount of time.

Next thing that jumps out at me is you using deca to diet with. Granted some pro's use deca to diet with but it isnt the most optimal drug to diet with. You need to be going with compounds that dont create water retention. Even though EQ does create water retention it is much better suited to diet than deca is becuase the amount of water retention you get from EQ compared to deca is almost 3:1. I dont know what your financial situation is so this may play a role but if possible dump the deca and get primo or EQ bud.

Now you say your 26% BF. Bro I really wouldnt even worry about gear at this point. I would just run a diet and lift accrodingly first with cradio to get my bodyfat% down to half that before I even thought about using gear. The gear will not magically make all that excess bodyfat. If need be use clen and some ECA first but the key is you DIET bro. That needs to be on target first.

There are plenty of guys here on this board that can help you with that. I would just hate to see you watse all the time and money with the gear, not to mention possible health side effects from all that damn tren to see you not get the results you want.

Diet is the key bro.


Mav

 

[bigbrian58]

Guys, I appreciate the input - thank you.

I realize this is a lot to drop, and is going to be challenging.Competed and won my class at 210 dry, last year.Just let go after this, which was compounded by hassles at home, and my weight ballooned.So here I am over 300 with a lot of work to do!

Yes, you are right it is primarily going to be about diet at this point and this is where I will need to focus - I am glad to be reminded of that.

I will drop the deca earlier, some good points were made here.Equi is not a good option for me as it increases my appetite far too much, and I have never done well with it.I know the Tren could be contraversial, but have done at least 20 cycles with it, and been one of the lucky ones that has had few sides except insomnia.

Guys, again I appreciate the help and it is time to hit the chicken breasts and broccoli