Cycle II Advice?

[Tugger]

I'm thinking this.

Week 1 - 4 Test P 75mg (ED)
Week 1 - 12 Test E 500mg (EW).
Week 1 - 12 EQ 500mg (EW).
Week 7 - 15 Tren A 50mg (ED)

Week 1 - 17 Nolva 20mg (ED) & Vitamin B6 200mg (ED)
Week 15 - 17 Full PCT
Clomid 300mg (day one),
100mg (ED=10 days),
50mg (ED=10 days)


I'm thinking that I won't really need the Test P the first 4 weeks with the Test E and EQ.
Would that be overkill?
Thoughts?

Note: Previous cycle:
Week 1-11 Test E (400mg) & Tren A 40mg (EOD)

 

[xcelbeyond]

If your first cycle didn't work, you were either lacking on the training or diet side of things.

WHY are you increasing SO MUCH?!?! You are increasing amount of tren by 250%!!!! why not increase it 25-50% (which is a large increase)?

Weeks 1-4 you're gonna be taking 1025mg test!!! Thats over 250% more test!!! It looks like you're willing to ED injects so why not just do 500mg prop for the course (you can do this EOD also)? Just the fact your switching to prop from enanth, you're getting 15% more actual test, read http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1173

If you want to "kick start" the beginning of cycle, why not add 25-30mg d-bol ED for first 4 weeks (dosage spread out throughout the day)?

 

[Tugger]

Yeow... your right. My bad.
I was under the impression that I would need to bump up the dosage a bit more on the second cycle.
After I read your article... now it makes sense. That's WAY too much of an increase.
Last cycle was stellar. Gained nearly 22lbs and have kept 18 of it since (14 weeks now).

I was also misinformed about the half-lives of the Test E and P.
Looks like the Test P would not be necessary after all.
The Test E kicked in during week 3 for me last cycle. I was fine with that.

I'm on the fence about doing the tren. The stuff was hard on me.
Raised my BP more than I wanted and the acne during PCT was NASTY.
(I'm 43 and have HBP that I take Rx for). I did well with the 40mg eod...
and after I got used to it... I found that I could go ed with no real issues (red face, +hbp).
It seemed to stabilize after week 4 or so.
I just didn't like the lack of sleep. It really messed with that big time.

I'm wanting to stay clear of any orals if I can.
I did consider d-bol. But have read that it's rough on the BP too.

If my BP goes up some... I'm good. Too much... not worth it to me.
Thanks for your advice. I'm the first to admit I don't know all the details on this.
There's ALOT to learn. Your article was great. Moved me way ahead.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Hey - most guys forget more about this stuff than I know

Most of those articles I posted were good info I found, saved and put on the board. I try and give credit to the author whenever I have a name.

Tren is very hard on me as well. I can only take 6 weeks of it - high BP after 2-3 weeks, can't sleep, anxiety, but it does make me strong as hell!

 

[Tugger]

Thanks xcel...
I'm not starting the next cycle till about the 2nd week of March. I have a physical the first week and want to make sure all my ducks are in a row before I jump back in.
This gives me some time to plan... (lol) and read more info you have posted.
Thanks again.