Dat's super simplified GH secretagogue thread

[DatBtrue]

In response to the following question.

"do you have a more simpler thread thats in english for the dumber bbers that just shows the basics of each with out going all technical??"​

Simpler thread? Yes but I wrote that in french. Parlez-vous français?

CJC-1295, il est de longue durée.
Modified GRF(1-29), il est de moyennement durée.
Sermorelin, il est de courte durée

GRPP-6, il est fort.
GHRP-2 il est plus fort.
Hexarelin, il est le plus fort.​

 

[triathloncoach]

My simplified thank you

Fongul

 

[DatBtrue]

This thread is a serious thread. Any question you have that I can answer in less then five lines of text (without scientific explanation) will be answered.

Seriously.

 

[DatBtrue]

Fongul

 

[Jarconis]

Taken from another fitness board where I saw the ultimate ambiguous question this guy said. It's been dubbed the "no gym for home" statement.

No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?

 

[donjoy]

This thread is a serious thread. Any question you have that I can answer in less then five lines of text (without scientific explanation) will be answered.

Seriously.

Would exogenous gh interfere with the administration of a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo?

If so what is a safe bet for spacing them apart to get benefits of both?

Is a fasted am exo gh shot (say 4ius) and a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo prebed spaced sufficiently that they will not interfere?

 

[triathloncoach]

Serious Question

Thanks for offering to help the non scientists. Is there any reason to believe the peptides would cause greater water retention than synthetic GH? (at approximately equivalent dosing)

 

[EasyEJL]

Would exogenous gh interfere with the administration of a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo?

If so what is a safe bet for spacing them apart to get benefits of both?

Is a fasted am exo gh shot (say 4ius) and a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo prebed spaced sufficiently that they will not interfere?

easy answer, if you are doing ghrp6/cjc1295 prebed, take the exogenous about 20 minutes after those.

 

[DatBtrue]

Taken from another fitness board where I saw the ultimate ambiguous question this guy said. It's been dubbed the "no gym for home" statement.

No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?

The answer is yes. Next question.

 

[donjoy]

easy answer, if you are doing ghrp6/cjc1295 prebed, take the exogenous about 20 minutes after those.

What about interference of one with the other? I am assuming you could do it the way you described but not the other way around (ie exogenous first and ghrp6/cjc1295 after).

 

[DatBtrue]

Would exogenous gh interfere with the administration of a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo?

Depends on the timing and amounts... even then the interference would only be a blunting effect.

If so what is a safe bet for spacing them apart to get benefits of both?

Administer GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 then wait 20 minutes and administer 2iu to 4 iu of GH IF you intend to do this dosing scheme again 3-5 hours later. ...or as much GH as you want if you will only do this dosing scheme once.

Is a fasted am exo gh shot (say 4ius) and a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 combo prebed spaced sufficiently that they will not interfere?

Yes. GH also initiates IGF-1 creation in the brain which can inhibit GHRH release and amplify somatostatin release. Administering GHRH bypasses that deficit at the hypothalamus and GHRP-6 helps overcome systemic IGF-1 blunting at the pituitary. Even so a good 4 hours of spacing greatly reduces and 16 hours eliminates IGF-1 blunting.

 

[donjoy]

DatBtrue for President!

or Prime Minister perhaps

 

[babyhulk066]

while take CJC-1295 without the DAC and ghrp at 100 each three times a day what to you think the GH levels would be at in a 24 hour period? assuming its taking properly?

and if you drink alcohol while on those what could happen?

 

[bigguns078]

Why do you believe the type of carbohydrate source is not important PWO? When there are studies showing the benefits of Waxy Maize Starch (passing thru the stomach faster and allowing restoration of glycogen faster)

 

[EasyEJL]

Why do you believe the type of carbohydrate source is not important PWO? When there are studies showing the benefits of Waxy Maize Starch (passing thru the stomach faster and allowing restoration of glycogen faster)

have you found any studies that show that faster restoration of glycogen stores has any anabolic or lifespan effects?

 

[bigguns078]

have you found any studies that show that faster restoration of glycogen stores has any anabolic or lifespan effects?

Well.. This was quoted by someone else.. Not me.. "If you understand the make up of your muscle mass, you will learn that there is much more to the muscle than just contractile tissue. A large portion of your muscle mass area is made up of things besides muscle. There is water, glycogen, minerals, blood vessels, capillaries, etc., etc. By using these High molecular weight carbohydrate powders, you can quickly draw the carbohydrate up into your muscles, along with water, and the cell volumizing nutrients you take along with it. With the faster glycogen restoration, you can decrease catabolism after a workout, and speed up the potential for synthesizing protein as new muscle. In plain English, the result is more muscle."

So does the faster restoration of glycogen stores have an anabolic effect.. Not sure, but, I don't think so... But when you take GH before your shake.. Yes.. There is an anabolic response.. And from the information.. a better one because of better and faster nutrient uptake..

 

[chris250]

Here is a thread that will be 600 pages long in about 2 weeks from now...LOL !!!

chris

 

[SOCOM]

How I imagine DatBtrue..

 

[j4ever]

Well.. This was quoted by someone else.. Not me.. "If you understand the make up of your muscle mass, you will learn that there is much more to the muscle than just contractile tissue. A large portion of your muscle mass area is made up of things besides muscle. There is water, glycogen, minerals, blood vessels, capillaries, etc., etc. By using these High molecular weight carbohydrate powders, you can quickly draw the carbohydrate up into your muscles, along with water, and the cell volumizing nutrients you take along with it. With the faster glycogen restoration, you can decrease catabolism after a workout, and speed up the potential for synthesizing protein as new muscle. In plain English, the result is more muscle."

So does the faster restoration of glycogen stores have an anabolic effect.. Not sure, but, I don't think so... But when you take GH before your shake.. Yes.. There is an anabolic response.. And from the information.. a better one because of better and faster nutrient uptake..

That is my question if you take a high gi shake post wo then pin gh will you get same or close to the same effect as if you were using insulin?

 

[weltweite]

How I imagine DatBtrue..

OT:
Lol, i'm sorry that was funny. I couldn't stop laughing.

Thats from "the watchmen" right?