DECA and effects on cardio

[RandomLifter]

Sounds like they put a label that says “deca” on a vial of tren because there is no evidence at all that 100mg deca does any of this

Pharma, prescribed thru TRTNation. That said, TBH, I trust my UGL’s more

 

[marssel]

Anyone experience a decrease in cardio output from DECA? I've been mountain biking a lot this summer and the last 3 weeks it seems I'm sucking wind more on the climbs than earlier this summer. Time frame coincides with adding DECA to cycle. I was riding 2-3 times a week but due to work I've had to drop to one longer ride on the weekend which could be the culprit for the drop in cario as well.

I'm not a big deca guy so I can't speak on it personally but I've had several buddies make this assessment over the years. I prefer EQ and it doesn't affect my hiking or stepmill...,,

 

[hawkmoon]

I have terrible lung remodeling from a lifetime of asthma and Deca doesn't impact my lousy performance at all.
Now it's 19-nor cousin tren - that makes my lungs wither up like raisins.

 

[Starchild1]

I've noticed it messing with my serotonin which makes me feel very apathetic and I don't want to do shit so it would absolutely make cardio a slog lol

 

[Fa Seeshus]

PDE5 inhibitors like cialis or viagra will help with your issue. I'm squatting now, can explain later

 

[Fa Seeshus]

So nandrolone can cause pulmonary hypertension and chf symptoms. This is fluid not just under your skin, but internally, making your lungs and heart work much harder. PD5 inhibitors assist with reducing this fluid and taking stress off the heart.

It won't fix everything, but it will help. You will snore less and nandrolone's cardio impact won't be so bad.

 

[Brazzilian]

So nandrolone can cause pulmonary hypertension and chf symptoms. This is fluid not just under your skin, but internally, making your lungs and heart work much harder. PD5 inhibitors assist with reducing this fluid and taking stress off the heart.

It won't fix everything, but it will help. You will snore less and nandrolone's cardio impact won't be so bad.

Yes, on point.
SGLT2i (empa) also very usefull for this issue.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31980166/

 

[massephase]

Yes, but I always suspected it's the increased water retention in test/ deca cycles. It makes the whole cycle more watery

 

[Josefein421]

Deca seems to get such a bad rep for being "sloppy". But if the "slop" is all water that fades upon cessation what is the big deal? That is not taking into account side effects of any water like increased BP, etc. It has always been a solid drug with really good strength gains and the joint benefit. Never noticed any cardio effects or anxiety that someone mentioned in a thread recently.

 

[gauge22-v2]

Started Deca on Sep 6th. 100mg 2x per week. Trying this for my aching joints.

Stepmill, which I have been doing a ton since April (?) is WAY harder. It feels like at least an extra level or two different.

Joints not feeling better, yes I know it is only week 3, but thinking of dropping it.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Started Deca on Sep 6th. 100mg 2x per week. Trying this for my aching joints.

Stepmill, which I have been doing a ton since April (?) is WAY harder. It feels like at least an extra level or two different.

Joints not feeling better, yes I know it is only week 3, but thinking of dropping it.

200 mg a week was never enough for me to get the joint benefits. I always needed 5-600 a week. Any less and nothing .

 

[massephase]

So nandrolone can cause pulmonary hypertension and chf symptoms. This is fluid not just under your skin, but internally, making your lungs and heart work much harder. PD5 inhibitors assist with reducing this fluid and taking stress off the heart.

It won't fix everything, but it will help. You will snore less and nandrolone's cardio impact won't be so bad.

Now I have an excuse to do an extended trial run with cialis - my girlfriend thanks you in advance xD

 

[gauge22-v2]

200 mg a week was never enough for me to get the joint benefits. I always needed 5-600 a week. Any less and nothing .

Thats a shame. No chance I am doing a nand @ 5-600....too old for that shit.

Putting in some ment (15mg/ED) as that has given me some joint relief plus it has the opposite impact on my mood compared to nand (upbeat, positive).

 

[PRorER]

Thats a shame. No chance I am doing a nand @ 5-600....too old for that shit.

Putting in some ment (15mg/ED) as that has given me some joint relief plus it has the opposite impact on my mood compared to nand (upbeat, positive).

Currently using Nandrolone, 150mg NPP or Deca does the trick for joint relief. Deca definitely makes me alittle lazier/unmotivated but NPP has had no mental impact on me

 

[Worldsfastestfatty]

Run plenty of deca up to 600 per week - as a compound it's never affected my cardio at all (and I do 90 minutes 5 mornings a week religiously - jogging/sprinting/rowing/cycling).

However if I take deca (or any substance) and quickly gain 10-15lb in a week or so then yeah, shits gonna get real fucking sucky for a while. So stay on top of diet, hydration, estrogen etc and also build up doses gradually

 

[marssel]

I have terrible lung remodeling from a lifetime of asthma and Deca doesn't impact my lousy performance at all.
Now it's 19-nor cousin tren - that makes my lungs wither up like raisins.

Yea that's how we used to judge tren quality the worse the affect on your lungs and the cough the better we assumed the tren was quality wise lol, I don't think we were wrong

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

Aside from all the hormonal effects of 19 Nors that has been listed...Water retention etc

drugs as a whole cause oxidative stress....No matter what it is. Our body has to break it down and it has to go through its processes in our body to do what we want it to do. That in some way causes oxidative stress...Vigorous Steve has a phenominal video on PEDS and combat sports athletes, and how they can decrease performance, including cardio...just from the ROS that can occur

 

[hawkmoon]

Yea that's how we used to judge tren quality the worse the affect on your lungs and the cough the better we assumed the tren was quality wise lol, I don't think we were wrong

What gets me isn't so much the cough (there is that) it's the chronic degradation in capacity due to the inflammation from altered prostaglandin and eicosanoid signaling.
It's always there in the background when I use it, taking away some of my air.

 

[marssel]

What gets me isn't so much the cough (there is that) it's the chronic degradation in capacity due to the inflammation from altered prostaglandin and eicosanoid signaling.
It's always there in the background when I use it, taking away some of my air.

Yea it definitely is like breathing thru a mask when on higher doses for sure