Deca-only cycle?

[burgundy]

I’ve heard of a few people doing this in the past, the most famous of which was Jordan Peters.

I’m not sure what results he made on the cycle but I’m interested in giving it a shot.

Thoughts on a deca-only cycle? Meaning using deca as a base. No testosterone or other anabolics used at all.

I know many people say “test is best” or “you need high test to grow” but how true is that really?

I’m 245lbs~ at 5’9 and still have abs showing so guessing around 13% bodyfat.

1. Can I still grow on only deca/GH/insulin as long as I’m pushing up weights/food?
2. Do you think Deca-only is a good choice for those that wish to keep/regrow their hair?
3. Do you think it can reduce back acne? (I don’t have much but I already do daily injections and frequently take an AI)
4. Less chance of hair loss due to less need to take an AI using only deca?
5. Is this a huge waste of time and I should just take test/other anabolics with fina and hope my hair stays/small amount of acne goes + I’ll never make progress on only deca?

I’m thinking of pushing this up to around 2.5-3g’s and doubt I’ll ever need to take more than that.

 

[bdad]

I never ran it that high, but have done deca sola a few times years ago. I grew, but was miserable as far as mental sides, and sex didn't interest me at all. I had some good runs with deca, and dball.

 

[Mufasa123]

Done a number of deca only when I was younger in the 1990s. Worked fine, felt good, no issues. As I got older body changed and I need some test for normal functioning. Ideally equal to or more test than deca.

Deca/dbol, deca/winny, all worked fine then as well as just deca/test. I did notice even then that throwing in some test, even low dosages, made all my cycles a bit better. Guess I was onto something.

 

[sickboy]

I’ve done it a few times. Ran 800mgs a week no problems. As I got older I would throw in a shot of sostenon every 10 days and that helped with any libido problems. It wasn’t that I had serious libido problems, it just would take a little more foreplay to get started. Felt really good otherwise, mood, workouts were great. Muscles were really full and strength gains from Deca were surprisingly good.

I should add I wasn’t bulking when I was running it solo. I tend to eat around 90 percent clean and higher protein most of the time I would run a compound by itself so I could judge it’s effects properly.
You really won’t know until you try it. Everyone is different and you’ll hear lots of different stories.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Done it lots of times. Always fine when I did it.

 

[Snarf]

Deca-only cycles can work for some, but honestly, you might feel off without test: libido, mood, and mental clarity could take a hit. I've heard of people running it solo and gaining size, but personally, I’d be cautious with the mental side effects.

 

[Tomgrass]

As far as I know the dose must be high enough -800mg and above to provide enough conversion to estrogen. Usually when deca doses are lower and they dont want to add test they add 10-20mg dbol exactly for this purpose.

 

[deadmanwalking]

As far as I know the dose must be high enough -800mg and above to provide enough conversion to estrogen. Usually when deca doses are lower and they dont want to add test they add 10-20mg dbol exactly for this purpose.

Why would estrogen conversion be needed if deca is anabolic itself?

 

[Primoo]

Don’t ever do that you should include testosterone in all your cycle unless you want to be shut down

 

[cage99]

How old are you? Reason being the older you get the more negative sides you’d experience without having test in the mix.

Personally, I could never do that or my dick would be flat out useless and shriveled up.

If you’re in your 20’s or early 30’s then run it and see.. I’d try it first with NPP though instead…

Cage

 

[Tomgrass]

Why would estrogen conversion be needed if deca is anabolic itself?

For every day functioning

 

[deadmanwalking]

For every day functioning

Yea I’ve heard of guys running only EQ, Tren, primo and still gaining lots of muscle with zero estrogen present. It’s interesting how the body adapts in certain conditions

 

[Brock456]

I’ve heard of a few people doing this in the past, the most famous of which was Jordan Peters.

I’m not sure what results he made on the cycle but I’m interested in giving it a shot.

Thoughts on a deca-only cycle? Meaning using deca as a base. No testosterone or other anabolics used at all.

I know many people say “test is best” or “you need high test to grow” but how true is that really?

I’m 245lbs~ at 5’9 and still have abs showing so guessing around 13% bodyfat.

1. Can I still grow on only deca/GH/insulin as long as I’m pushing up weights/food?
2. Do you think Deca-only is a good choice for those that wish to keep/regrow their hair?
3. Do you think it can reduce back acne? (I don’t have much but I already do daily injections and frequently take an AI)
4. Less chance of hair loss due to less need to take an AI using only deca?
5. Is this a huge waste of time and I should just take test/other anabolics with fina and hope my hair stays/small amount of acne goes + I’ll never make progress on only deca?

I’m thinking of pushing this up to around 2.5-3g’s and doubt I’ll ever need to take more than that.

You don’t mention anything about sex drive or libido. Those would be up there with my highest concerns.

Deca affects everyone differently. I’ve heard of guys running it with no sex sides.

I’ve used Deca and always kept my Test higher by at least 200mg and it made my dick a noodle and no sex drive. I wouldn’t mess with that.

 

[deadmanwalking]

You don’t mention anything about sex drive or libido. Those would be up there with my highest concerns.

Deca affects everyone differently. I’ve heard of guys running it with no sex sides.

I’ve used Deca and always kept my Test higher by at least 200mg and it made my dick a noodle and no sex drive. I wouldn’t mess with that.

But in speaking of just gains and fat loss, it could be perfect for certain people

 

[Alzadosghost]

Don’t ever do that you should include testosterone in all your cycle unless you want to be shut down

Your going to be shutdown no matter what aas your using lol and no guys in the 60, 70s used testosterone and they were all fine one no gyno either lol

 

[deadmanwalking]

Your going to be shutdown no matter what aas your using lol and no guys in the 60, 70s used testosterone and they were all fine one no gyno either lol

Wasn’t 200mg+ anavar and primo only the norm back then?

 

[Alzadosghost]

I couldn’t tell you what the norm was back then I wasn’t using steroids in the 60 and 70s but I do know that testosterone was rarely used then. Orals Iv only heard stories but never of anyone using that much Anavar.

 

[mexbeast]

Don’t ever do that you should include testosterone in all your cycle unless you want to be shut down

This is so funny , so you mean that adding test to deca prevents shot down?

 

[yellowbird1]

I've never done deca only but I've done high deca(800mg+) with dbol(25-50mg) just be sure I have enough (methyl)estrogen. Plus hgh. Worked well. No gyno. No hair loss. Crazy pumps. The only issue is mental as I don't have the energy and drive that testosterone gives me. I'm more chill and relaxed and just want to sit on the couch. So I have to push myself more to do things. I think I grew just as well on test/tren/anadrol or anavar but felt more energetic. I get high BP on either so I have to use 40mg telmisartan/5mg Amlodipine and I like to use 5mg nebivolol and 5-10mg tadalafil too.
I will say deca/dbol made me feel slow and dumb mentally. There were days I couldn't think of the next words I wanted to say mid sentence

 

[Brock456]

But in speaking of just gains and fat loss, it could be perfect for certain people

…perfect? Yeah if you want to have no sex life and basically not use your dick