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Dude my girl watches 10x more porn than I do and kinky shit at that. Granted she doesn't do drugs but you can't place steroids in the same category IMO. Plus any hot girl gets way more attention than the average juice head. My chick gets hit on daily. Nothing I can do about it so why let it bother me?
 
Dude my girl watches 10x more porn than I do and kinky shit at that. Granted she doesn't do drugs but you can't place steroids in the same category IMO. Plus any hot girl gets way more attention than the average juice head. My chick gets hit on daily. Nothing I can do about it so why let it bother me?

I dated one like that. Hot as hell an all into porn an kinky shit. I put a mobilespy app on her phone an found out she was texting nude pics of herself to guys because she "liked" the attention but saying there wasn't anything going on. Also bluffed my way in an arguement an got her to admit to sleeping with two other guys when we had broken up for 3 days. She was ok with it cause she was drunk an barely remembered.

Thanks but no thanks. That's not the kind of girl I want. I like the more reserved, clingy non drinking hot girl that doesn't know she's hot and has more respect for herself.
 
Good points, Its true I put here threw alot. I have tapperd my drug and alcohol use do to my bodybuilding which is a plus, but your right who could stand your women being the center of attention everywere you go.
I think she should be proud of what I've done, as we all know its not all juice.
On the otherhand if Men were approaching my wife constantly I'd probably want to lock her in the closet too or at least take her out of that envirement.
As for counseling we have with no sucsess. Ever since the fiasco of last summers outings and constant attention weve had issue after issue.
Counseling just kept bringing to the surface even when we had a good week and after 6mnths the counselor stated that if she cant accept our defferences then the choice is made. Of course its a female counselor who probably needs therapy herself.
As summer nears its end things change, less partying, bars and I were a shirt, all good things for a marrage but in the summer I like livin life to its fullest[ at least once a week for what 12 weeks that summer lasts here in chi-town.
Hopefully she accept the hrt therapy, but if I dont shrink away there is were the problem lies, and I hope I can maintain my freak status that we all work for....Will See!!!
 
if your significant other was doing (abusing) drugs and looking at Dick pictures and other sexual pictures online and is being approached by a flock of males.... you wouldn't feel a sense of insecure?

I completely agree with this. I would feel insecure. I also think it's inappropriate for people to continue looking at porn in a relationship - hell I think it's not healthy to look at porn in general, but that's a different discussion.

But if two people decide to look at porn together because it turns them both on, then rock on.

To your question, I would feel insecure if my partner was using a hefty amount of drugs on a regular basis, consumed in self-absorbed ideals about trying to become a mass monster. I would also be concerned if they were looking at porn often. I would feel insecure, because red flags would be going off all over the place - red flags that say "this could be a potential deal breaker here. This is unhealthy behavior that could lead to a cancer in this relationship."

I want to make this point, because until now it could be misunderstood that I thought these other behaviors were acceptable.

Again my big point is that both parties involved have a lot of sorting to do in their personal lives, and owe it to themselves and the relationship to re-examine their behaviors and beliefs, so that a new healthier goal can be seen on the horizon.
 
I completely agree with this. I would feel insecure. I also think it's inappropriate for people to continue looking at porn in a relationship - hell I think it's not healthy to look at porn in general, but that's a different discussion.

But if two people decide to look at porn together because it turns them both on, then rock on.

To your question, I would feel insecure if my partner was using a hefty amount of drugs on a regular basis, consumed in self-absorbed ideals about trying to become a mass monster. I would also be concerned if they were looking at porn often. I would feel insecure, because red flags would be going off all over the place - red flags that say "this could be a potential deal breaker here. This is unhealthy behavior that could lead to a cancer in this relationship."

I want to make this point, because until now it could be misunderstood that I thought these other behaviors were acceptable.

Again my big point is that both parties involved have a lot of sorting to do in their personal lives, and owe it to themselves and the relationship to re-examine their behaviors and beliefs, so that a new healthier goal can be seen on the horizon.

A man of my own heart felt values.... very well said!
 
Hopefully she accept the hrt therapy, but if I dont shrink away there is were the problem lies, and I hope I can maintain my freak status that we all work for....Will See!!!

You won't shrink away to nothing, but if anything you will become leaner than you already are. Believe me. You are holding about 10 pounds of water in there,I can see it from those pictures, and sure it will come out of the muscle but as well it will come out of your skin, so be prepared to look slightly smaller BUT also more lean and svelt, for lack of a better word.

You won't look like a freak. You will look like a Greek Statue. You will take on a mature and refined appearance that says "I am not a freak, I am someone who works hard to look my best."

I also hope you will go on to set some new goals for yourself, because you work hard. You need goals to consume your free time, otherwise you might end up slipping into various unhealthy behaviors.

Here are just a few ideas to get you started.


THINGS TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE I NEED DIAPERS AGAIN:

1) Make it through a whole hour of Hot Yoga without walking out.
2) Overhead squat your bodyweight.
3) Become a Big Brother to a troubled teen.
4) Sit quietly and think about NOTHING for 5 minutes straight.
5) Swim 50 laps in one session.
6) Build a piece of wooden furniture FROM SCRATCH.
7) Make it all the way through 3, Five minute rounds in a mixed martial art.
8) Give a random stranger something extremely valuable of yours.
9) Jump rope for 10 minutes straight.
10) Learn how to look amazing on TRT doses of hormones.
 
It is more the way I look than health issues. I have been physically super active my whole life. I do more by 12;00 then most people do in a week.
I have always had great self esteem, my wife calls ego and has never paid me a compliment on my looks or achievments in life figuring it would go to my head. She;ll even get upset from others compliments.

I'm about in this same boat. I don't blast like this, nowhere near, and I'm a notch or so below you, but 6'1" 240 about 8% bf in the summer, up to 265 winter ... She can't stand it when I get any attention. Never had anyone ask me for a photo however, but I get approached on how I get so lean, what do I eat, and the most frequent question "how much you bench", LOL.
She used to like me leaning out, abs used to drive her crazy, but since she isn't as sharp as she once was, she wants me down to "normal". F that. Work 30+ years to get to this point to say, screw it, I think I'll be a fatass from here on out. Aint happening
 
she wants me down to "normal". F that. Work 30+ years to get to this point to say, screw it, I think I'll be a fatass from here on out. Aint happening

I always wonder why some people just call it quits on themselves physically one day.
I know for women, a lot of them do it after a pregnancy. They get big, lose hope, and just give up completely.
I am 30 now, at that age where a lot of my friends are going over to the 'other side'....... the side with beer guts and no longer caring about appearance.

I never quite understood how or why this happens to so many people. I see a lot of people give up when they are married, like they were only doing it to attract a mate. I always want to be in shape, so I obviously still train even though I am married. I want my wife to be happy with me too, and I expect her to 'keep herself up' for me.
 
I have a quick question. Was there something that happened that all of a sudden brought this on? I mean you say that you have been this way for a while(pictures, phone numbers etc...) so has she been on you about this for a while or did something happen that just broke the camels back and she finally said that's it?
 
Family comes first, bro. But at the same time, you are going to need to likely get on some kind of trt after 3 years of cruise/blasts. Before I got off, I would attempt to address her insecurity. My wife is unbelievably beautiful. The kind of shit that shuts a room up, which is great but is also a serious fucking headache at times. Anytime we go out, some bastard wants to start shit with me because he's jealous, or some broad wants to fight her because her man is checking her out. Her beauty and the attention it brings was intimidating for me at first. I honestly thought she was too beautiful to trust. But in the end, I simply had to address my own issues, as she also had to do with me and the attention I get.

If it's all about the attention you get and not about your health, then I'd try to address her issues first, bro. But in the end, muscle isn't worth my marriage and my kids being under one roof. Everyone is different though. I feel for you and wish you the best.
 
I have a quick question. Was there something that happened that all of a sudden brought this on? I mean you say that you have been this way for a while(pictures, phone numbers etc...) so has she been on you about this for a while or did something happen that just broke the camels back and she finally said that's it?

Last memorial day, 2011 out on the boat and boating bars a random women spilt her drink down my abs and then proceeded to clean it up with, you guessed it Her Tongue...In plain veiw of my wife.
I was shocked and reaction time a bit slow but it really took less than a second and in 43yrs never had it happen so it also caught me off gaurd.
Somehow I am to blame and the last 2yrs are history that I cant live down.
That was the bigging of the end for enjoying summers.lol
At the same time were both in a bar an a waldo grabs her shoulders and messages her as she sighs and melts in her chair in front of me.
Shit Happens thats no ones fault but circumstance, I just continue to be a victom.
And Yes I let him live, her too, as he I had know idea who I was ,Then!!!
 
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Dude insecurity doesn't come from anyone else's actions except your own. It's her who has the problem.



I think you missed the part where he (OP) said "he has done his fair share of bad things quite a number of times".................... so in essence his wife would be correct in having her insecurities. .
 
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Last memorial day, 2011 out on the boat and boating bars a random women spilt her drink down my abs and then proceeded to clean it up with, you guessed it Her Tongue...

Yikes. If I am right, this boat outing sounds a lot like the "party coves" where people pull their boats together, drink tons of alcohol, plenty of drugs, and definitely a lot of misbehaving. Am I close?
 
Good points, Its true I put here threw alot. I have tapperd my drug and alcohol use do to my bodybuilding which is a plus, but your right who could stand your women being the center of attention everywere you go.
I think she should be proud of what I've done, as we all know its not all juice.
On the otherhand if Men were approaching my wife constantly I'd probably want to lock her in the closet too or at least take her out of that envirement.
As for counseling we have with no sucsess. Ever since the fiasco of last summers outings and constant attention weve had issue after issue.
Counseling just kept bringing to the surface even when we had a good week and after 6mnths the counselor stated that if she cant accept our defferences then the choice is made. Of course its a female counselor who probably needs therapy herself.
As summer nears its end things change, less partying, bars and I were a shirt, all good things for a marrage but in the summer I like livin life to its fullest[ at least once a week for what 12 weeks that summer lasts here in chi-town.
Hopefully she accept the hrt therapy, but if I dont shrink away there is were the problem lies, and I hope I can maintain my freak status that we all work for....Will See!!!


Concreter..you can do better!

The exclusiveness of marriage: Marriage is not only permanent, sacred, intimate, and mutual; it is also exclusive (Genesis 2:22-25; 1 Corinthians 7:2-5). This means that no other human relationship must interfere with the marriage commitment between husband and wife. For this reason, Jesus treated sexual immorality of a married person, including even a husband's lustful thoughts, with utmost seriousness (Matthew 5:28; 19:9
 
How is it that dave1 is still here?
 
concreter

one thing you should consider is that going from 3g of gear to 150mg of test a week will have you looking like an average joe. you will most for the most part look "normal". which will make your wife happy...

if you are prone to being chubby, you will have to diet superhard to stay at the same body bf. whereas with 3grams of gear diet can be a little laxer.

also strength will go down. are you mentally ready to go back to being Clark Kent? put your nerd glasses on now.

I would start telling your wife that you want a quiet summer next summer, no more partying and crap. if she believes you then you can buy yourself some time with the whole gear situation.

like you said, she hates the attention you get from being built. Don't put yourselves in situations where it could be an issue.

and IMO if some girl tried to lick a drink off me in front of my wife, I would STOP her and tell her that I am married. I would be livid if some random dude licked my wife's stomach.

that's disrespectful and you should NEVER disrespect your wife in public, bro. It pisses me off just thinking about if it ever happened to me.
 
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Last memorial day, 2011 out on the boat and boating bars a random women spilt her drink down my abs and then proceeded to clean it up with, you guessed it Her Tongue...In plain veiw of my wife.
I was shocked and reaction time a bit slow but it really took less than a second and in 43yrs never had it happen so it also caught me off gaurd.
Somehow I am to blame and the last 2yrs are history that I cant live down.
That was the bigging of the end for enjoying summers.lol
At the same time were both in a bar an a waldo grabs her shoulders and messages her as she sighs and melts in her chair in front of me.
Shit Happens thats no ones fault but circumstance, I just continue to be a victom.
And Yes I let him live, her too, as he I had know idea who I was ,Then!!!

I just read this post before i wrote my last post. sorry about that

Some dude rubbing y wife's shoulders would piss me off. I would not have handled it good, especially if I was drinking.

at this point I think if you guys really want to avoid a lot of your issues just stay home during the summers. lol
 
I just read this post before i wrote my last post. sorry about that

Some dude rubbing y wife's shoulders would piss me off. I would not have handled it good, especially if I was drinking.

at this point I think if you guys really want to avoid a lot of your issues just stay home during the summers. lol


What it sounds like in every post so far by OP, is that when something involves the wife he has to hold back from killing someone, But when something happens to him the wife should be more understanding and not get so insecure about it. (thats just my .02 and I could be way off here)

Concreter, if you really loved your wife and wanted to save your marriage while still being able to stay on the gym juice. Then I would find a more "family friendly place" to have your summer vacations at. It sounds like the place you are frequenting is not working out for you or your wife. Granted, based on your comment where some guy was rubbing her shoulders and she didnt get pissed at the guy. It sounds like the two of you have issues and have to start off some place new, some place nuetral. Then and only then I believe can you really find out if it's her or you who is at fault.

There is no easy and fast solution to your dilema. BUT again, I believe if you start off some place new with a fresh start can you get back to making your marriage strong and whole again.

Good luck my friend.
 
What it sounds like in every post so far by OP, is that when something involves the wife he has to hold back from killing someone, But when something happens to him the wife should be more understanding and not get so insecure about it. (thats just my .02 and I could be way off here)

Concreter, if you really loved your wife and wanted to save your marriage while still being able to stay on the gym juice. Then I would find a more "family friendly place" to have your summer vacations at. It sounds like the place you are frequenting is not working out for you or your wife. Granted, based on your comment where some guy was rubbing her shoulders and she didnt get pissed at the guy. It sounds like the two of you have issues and have to start off some place new, some place nuetral. Then and only then I believe can you really find out if it's her or you who is at fault.

There is no easy and fast solution to your dilema. BUT again, I believe if you start off some place new with a fresh start can you get back to making your marriage strong and whole again.

Good luck my friend.

good post, boom. there are 2 decades of unresolved issues going on here. I have been in a similar situation. it didn't end well.
 
Read back into the posts. CC sounds like the boating issues may be up in
the devils play ground known as blarney island. That place can be a real homewrecker.I'm going to try to get that trt doc I mentioned number when i see my bud today. I guess this doc is very liberal and low hassle. North side of Chi.. T
 

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