Delt injection swelling

balla06 · Mar 31, 2014

Pinned the delt for the first time 6 days ago. 1cc of t400. Used this same gear in quad with no issues. Day after pin should was sore and slightly red. Then became swollen. 5 days later I woke up and the swelling went down to my elbow and 4arm. Whole arm from shoulder down to elbo has slight discoloration/redness. No longer sore really. But the swelling hase bothered and the fact it moved down to my elbow is very odd. I have no fever or any other signs of infection. Besides swelling and color but that can be typical with a virgin muscle. The swelling is what really has my confused. Pinned center of delt, 25g 1inch, slow inject. No blood or oil came out after removing the pin.

Any idea what could be going on here? Is it just my body reacting to the substance injected? And the fact it's a virgin muscle? There's no lump or hard mass at the injection sight. Just really confused on the inflamation going down to my elbow?

Thanks in advance

QuietStorm · Mar 31, 2014

That is a new one on me. I have never heard of that happening. I'll bump for ya, hopefully someone has an idea.

johnjuanb1 · Mar 31, 2014

balla06 said:
Pinned the delt for the first time 6 days ago. 1cc of t400. Used this same gear in quad with no issues. Day after pin should was sore and slightly red. Then became swollen. 5 days later I woke up and the swelling went down to my elbow and 4arm. Whole arm from shoulder down to elbo has slight discoloration/redness. No longer sore really. But the swelling hase bothered and the fact it moved down to my elbow is very odd. I have no fever or any other signs of infection. Besides swelling and color but that can be typical with a virgin muscle. The swelling is what really has my confused. Pinned center of delt, 25g 1inch, slow inject. No blood or oil came out after removing the pin.

Any idea what could be going on here? Is it just my body reacting to the substance injected? And the fact it's a virgin muscle? There's no lump or hard mass at the injection sight. Just really confused on the inflamation going down to my elbow?

Thanks in advance

The T400 crashed in your delt. It may have been fine for several shots but gear crashes without warning. T400 is notorious for crashing because it's too high a dose to suspend in oil without added solvents beyond the typical ba/bb. It has to be made with EO or guaiacol.

I had tren/ mast/ test crash in my leg and it's been ultra swollen and hurting for a couple weeks. You'll be fine in another week or two.

beastmode121 · Mar 31, 2014

if it's not hurting and it's no longer sore; it will go away. I had the same reaction n redness went down to my arm but it went away later on

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RBW · Mar 31, 2014

maybe didnt go deep enough... got caught between muscle and skin which caused the irratation/redness... going down arm could be irratation trying to leave the body. also anything over 300mg/ml IMO has potential to cause swelling, redness, irratation, etc...

woodswise · Mar 31, 2014

This has happened to me a few times. If the soreness is spreading and does not go away with heat treatment, you might have a bacterial infection and cellulitis as a result.

To be on the safe side, I would see a doctor and get some antibiotics ASAP bro. Don't tell them you are on AAS. Just tell them you were doing some physical activity and scratched yourself on something (i.e. it is possible the scratch introduced the bacteria to your body).

balla06 · Mar 31, 2014

RBW said:
maybe didnt go deep enough... got caught between muscle and skin which caused the irratation/redness... going down arm could be irratation trying to leave the body. also anything over 300mg/ml IMO has potential to cause swelling, redness, irratation, etc...

I used a 1inch all the way in. I'm fairly lean. I would like to think it was deep enough.

balla06 · Mar 31, 2014

johnjuanb1 said:
The T400 crashed in your delt. It may have been fine for several shots but gear crashes without warning. T400 is notorious for crashing because it's too high a dose to suspend in oil without added solvents beyond the typical ba/bb. It has to be made with EO or guaiacol.

I had tren/ mast/ test crash in my leg and it's been ultra swollen and hurting for a couple weeks. You'll be fine in another week or two.

Thanks for the info. I've never ran t400 and first time in delt. Pretty much thinking I should of just stayed in the quad. I've had gear crash in my leg before, swelling and hurt like hell for about a week. This is just odd to me bc the pain is gone and the swelling around my shoulder and tri has gone down a bit but my elbow and 4arm are still swollen. Like I got a fat elbow that giggles now haha (not really a laughing matter)

balla06 · Mar 31, 2014

woodswise said:
This has happened to me a few times. If the soreness is spreading and does not go away with heat treatment, you might have a bacterial infection and cellulitis as a result.

To be on the safe side, I would see a doctor and get some antibiotics ASAP bro. Don't tell them you are on AAS. Just tell them you were doing some physical activity and scratched yourself on something (i.e. it is possible the scratch introduced the bacteria to your body).

I'm in healthcare and so is the lady friend. I really don't think it's infected. Its the swelling and how it's traveled down my arm to my elbow is what has my confused. Thanks for the advise bro!

kinglewy · Mar 31, 2014

Either it crashed like jjb1 says or your delt just didn't accept the oil. I have had this happen many times with various bodyparts usually it swells for awhile than drains toward the extremities.

Happened to me first time I did calfs and went to doc because of course I thought it was infected (it wasn't) and doc said sometimes the muscle wont accept the oil and swells jsu let it be it will drain he said.

BIG-D123 · Mar 31, 2014

Heard alot of problems with t400, like this.

Had the same thing happen with my calf. Now I only use 1.25-1.50 inch and keep the Test at 350 or below. Sounds like it got into your sub Q.

Also circle the area that is red or take pics with phone. Compare daily to see if condition is worse.

Should dissipate in 5 days or so.

balla06 · Mar 31, 2014

kinglewy said:
Either it crashed like jjb1 says or your delt just didn't accept the oil. I have had this happen many times with various bodyparts usually it swells for awhile than drains toward the extremities.

Happened to me first time I did calfs and went to doc because of course I thought it was infected (it wasn't) and doc said sometimes the muscle wont accept the oil and swells jsu let it be it will drain he said.

Thanks for the replies guys! Makes sense that my delt coulda rejected the oil. I know at my body fat that a 1inch should totally be in muscle. Could have leaked out or it's rejecting it in my delt. It'll be a week tomorrow and it's getting better overall. The way the swelling is moving spots is why I was like wtf!? But makes sense if it's draining and traveling down.

This is the first time in my life my 4arm and elbow have ever jiggled! Super weird!