Derek backstage

[hollaatyaboyy1]

Anyone got the inside info what happened to derek backstage when he got “sick”. Looks like aceto didn’t wanna talk about it when Dave asked him during their wrap up and it got a lil weird

If I’m not mistaken Derek and aceto had a falling out when they worked together years back because of “protocols”

This is all guessing. Just curious

 

[Hatchet]

Isnt Aceto still coaching Lumpsford?

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

Isnt Aceto still coaching Lumpsford?

Yea he is.

If I’m not mistaken. Years back they worked togther and had a falling out. He went with Haney. And since Haney retired he needed someone else

I was listening to a podcast years back and I’m pretty sure it was him and said that he ended up in the hospital and he was blaming Chris diuretic protocol. And then Dave and Chris did a show and Chris walked it back.

I know I’m not imagining it

 

[Anabolic_Pound_Cake]

I heard the same thing. Though I don't know the details. Assumed it was due to diuretics.

 

[need4tren]

I know multiple people who have been coached by aceto and seen their protocols, he is by far the lowest dose coach I’ve ever seen and by far, he’s perfect for guys wanting to run small amounts of gear, so thinking he does crazy shit is completely false

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

I know multiple people who have been coached by aceto and seen their protocols, he is by far the lowest dose coach I’ve ever seen and by far, he’s perfect for guys wanting to run small amounts of gear, so thinking he does crazy shit is completely false

I have also heard about that from several podcasts with trusted guys in the industry like very trustworthy that aceto is conservative

 

[TrippplePPP]

Its kind of interesting that there are very loose rules in bodybuilding. Derek went out last which normally the reigning champ goes last. So Derek kind of missed his turn yet he was still allowed to win.

 

[Truckman]

He's allegedly aggressive with the water cutting side of things, not so much with gear. Pro's seek him out for help with presenting a winning look on stage. He has a really good eye for it, based on what the current industry standard is at any given time..
He's not a guy known for skipping local level weight classes with new hires. He's fully capable of doing so, just not his interest nor his cup of tea. Every "coach" I hired who worked directly with him had a similar generic aggressive water cut protocol.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Fwiw I don't believe anyone's dosing protocols, from Samson Dauda & Marek Health ("blood tests proved I could make better gains on lower doses"), to Phil Heath ("I didn't need a lot of gear because I worked harder than everyone else"), to any of Chris Aceto's clients

We will never know

 

[3BILLS]

Probably had the shits man

 

[bjjgear]

Fwiw I don't believe anyone's dosing protocols, from Samson Dauda & Marek Health ("blood tests proved I could make better gains on lower doses"), to Phil Heath ("I didn't need a lot of gear because I worked harder than everyone else"), to any of Chris Aceto's clients

We will never know

Yep. In fact, lots of whispers suggest far larger amounts of gear - like - eye popping numbers. Which, if we were to believe our lying eyes when it comes to these alien physiques, would not be so unbelievable.

 

[Fleezy]

between the Arnold and the O, Derek made 1.1 million dollars.


if you think he, and other guys aren't pushing things to the limit in order to gain life-changing money.. i dont know what to tell you

now, that said.. blasting everything with reckless disregard could make you end up looking worse, but these guys pretty much have it figured out..


well, except for Nick, evidently.

 

[Hatchet]

Some say it was some sort of anxiety / panic attack type of thing. Unsure if true, just going around the S. media sites a bit..

 

[traininsane11]

Inb4 (only just before) this turns into another “what the pro’s really take” thread.

Source: just use my cycle X by 5-10 and add various things and tell people I have insider info

Man 2012 was a good time

 

[MajinBoo]

He's allegedly aggressive with the water cutting side of things, not so much with gear. Pro's seek him out for help with presenting a winning look on stage. He has a really good eye for it, based on what the current industry standard is at any given time..
He's not a guy known for skipping local level weight classes with new hires. He's fully capable of doing so, just not his interest nor his cup of tea. Every "coach" I hired who worked directly with him had a similar generic aggressive water cut protocol.

This. Have seen myself several aceto's protocols and I could not believe on low are the dosages he writes for his guys. Obviously many of them double the dosage - but that's by them. However Aceto loves diuretics and water manipulation in peak week and that destroys some people. And during off season he is not the best if you want progress. 1 diet for months, 1 drug protocol that looks like trt+ and let me know when prep starts.

 

[specter]

between the Arnold and the O, Derek made 1.1 million dollars.


if you think he, and other guys aren't pushing things to the limit in order to gain life-changing money.. i dont know what to tell you

now, that said.. blasting everything with reckless disregard could make you end up looking worse, but these guys pretty much have it figured out..


well, except for Nick, evidently.

For the absolute shit i cant understand how people believe pro´s in the top are not hammering shit down.. like yeah they have the genetics etc but drugs is just still a big part of the equation..

 

[luki7788]

Chris doesn't really care what anyone does with their gear—he only focuses on diet and peak week. I know a lot of his clients, and he gives them some recommendations on gear, but they still do their own protocols, and he doesn't mind.

 

[traininsane11]

8:24

Mental health? Who knows

 

[TomJ]

Chris doesn't really care what anyone does with their gear—he only focuses on diet and peak week. I know a lot of his clients, and he gives them some recommendations on gear, but they still do their own protocols, and he doesn't mind.

He's said as much in interviews multiple times over the years.

"What drugs do I run"
"Well what do you have?"

 

[madg]

8:24

Mental health? Who knows

Derek had “panic attack “

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