Derek backstage

[Elvia1023]

Yea he is.

If I’m not mistaken. Years back they worked togther and had a falling out. He went with Haney. And since Haney retired he needed someone else

I was listening to a podcast years back and I’m pretty sure it was him and said that he ended up in the hospital and he was blaming Chris diuretic protocol. And then Dave and Chris did a show and Chris walked it back.

I know I’m not imagining it

I don't know if that has happened with Derek but it has happened with other bodybuilders. Chris is known to be very low gear wise but can be extreme in peak week with water manipulation. We all know gear is important (albeit overcomplicated by many) but it always surprised me just how much he doesn't seem to care about AAS. Many of his guys run what they want and his recommendations are very low and if you don't have x just use y and it's very simple. That shows the simplicity of gear because it all works and he isn't wrong but at the very highest level you would think more thought went into things.

Luke Sandoe was another guy who ended up in hospital and blamed Chris in a video which he then took down and he went back to him like nothing had happened. He said he had him on I think 3 diuretics and when things weren't working like they should he added a 4th and he ended up in a bad way.

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

I don't know if that has happened with Derek but it has happened with other bodybuilders. Chris is known to be very low gear wise but can be extreme in peak week with water manipulation. We all know gear is important (albeit overcomplicated by many) but it always surprised me just how much he doesn't seem to care about AAS. Many of his guys run what they want and his recommendations are very low and if you don't have x just use y and it's very simple. That shows the simplicity of gear because it all works and he isn't wrong but at the very highest level you would think more thought went into things.

Luke Sandoe was another guy who ended up in hospital and blamed Chris in a video which he then took down and he went back to him like nothing had happened. He said he had him on I think 3 diuretics and when things weren't working like they should he added a 4th and he ended up in a bad way.

You know what maybe it was Luke. I can’t remember now. But i know i saw it and i heard it and it got covered up pretty good

 

[need4tren]

Derek had “panic attack “

The joys of 300mg tren ace ed

I know a guy who competed in the 212 on the Olympia stage under aceto and he didn’t even use tren. He tried to run 10mg a week and it effected his sleep so he pulled it

He's allegedly aggressive with the water cutting side of things, not so much with gear. Pro's seek him out for help with presenting a winning look on stage. He has a really good eye for it, based on what the current industry standard is at any given time..
He's not a guy known for skipping local level weight classes with new hires. He's fully capable of doing so, just not his interest nor his cup of tea. Every "coach" I hired who worked directly with him had a similar generic aggressive water cut protocol.

He goes by how you look, he had my buddy dose 1/4th of a diazide at around 2 am when he checked on him in the middle of the night, that’s it

 

[Fleezy]

He goes by how you look, he had my buddy dose 1/4th of a diazide at around 2 am when he checked on him in the middle of the night, that’s it

that's a pretty light protocol. but i like it



crazy to me that guys risk looking 40% worse with diuretics for the chance of looking a small bit better if everything goes right.


i feel like guys go way too hard on diuretics

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

I don't know if that has happened with Derek but it has happened with other bodybuilders. Chris is known to be very low gear wise but can be extreme in peak week with water manipulation. We all know gear is important (albeit overcomplicated by many) but it always surprised me just how much he doesn't seem to care about AAS. Many of his guys run what they want and his recommendations are very low and if you don't have x just use y and it's very simple. That shows the simplicity of gear because it all works and he isn't wrong but at the very highest level you would think more thought went into things.

Luke Sandoe was another guy who ended up in hospital and blamed Chris in a video which he then took down and he went back to him like nothing had happened. He said he had him on I think 3 diuretics and when things weren't working like they should he added a 4th and he ended up in a bad way.

Cedric too many times, Chris has talked about Ced with Dave many times on HMR

 

[A50#]

between the Arnold and the O, Derek made 1.1 million dollars.


if you think he, and other guys aren't pushing things to the limit in order to gain life-changing money.. i dont know what to tell you

now, that said.. blasting everything with reckless disregard could make you end up looking worse, but these guys pretty much have it figured out..


well, except for Nick, evidently.

You got a figure after taxes, expenses like coaching flights, AAS, HGH, food etc...Plus most people live and spend what they make so I'm sure he has a mortgage or rent, car notes and just daily living expenses. He's lucky if he's keeping half of that 1.1million. A few years back my brother in law won $1m off a state ran lottery and after it was all said and done he walked away with right around $580k which definitely made his life more comfortable and he hopes to retire at a younger age but he still had to keep his 50 hr week grind due to just how expensive it is to live and one important factor, health insurance.

 

[traininsane11]

You got a figure after taxes, expenses like coaching flights, AAS, HGH, food etc...Plus most people live and spend what they make so I'm sure he has a mortgage or rent, car notes and just daily living expenses. He's lucky if he's keeping half of that 1.1million. A few years back my brother in law won $1m off a state ran lottery and after it was all said and done he walked away with right around $580k which definitely made his life more comfortable and he hopes to retire at a younger age but he still had to keep his 50 hr week grind due to just how expensive it is to live and one important factor, health insurance.

Hey according to vigorous Steve you need $20 million banked to be able to never work another day again

 

[cage99]

Hey according to vigorous Steve you need $20 million banked to be able to never work another day again

Gawd damn! Guess if you live a lavish lifestyle then he’s correct. But if you’re a simple person with just basic needs; just gimmie 2 milly and I’m golden pony boy!

Cage

 

[need4tren]

that's a pretty light protocol. but i like it



crazy to me that guys risk looking 40% worse with diuretics for the chance of looking a small bit better if everything goes right.


i feel like guys go way too hard on diuretics

Aceto has his guys in shape, if you need to drop 5 pounds a water you only need a very little diuretic, some good sleep and to destress. If you can keep your client calm that will do the biggest thing.

guys who think you need to take a shit ton of drugs during prep are just trying to Justify their lack of work ethic or shitty generics, I’ve had two close friends step on the Olympia stage, I probably take 3x the drugs maybe 4x the drugs they do lol, but my diet is no where near the consistency of theirs, if I want a burger and fries I’m gonna eat