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diagnosed with calcified arteries

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What is my best course of action?

I plugged some values into ChatGPT @DOGGCRAPP

Here's a comprehensive overview of the best treatments for calcified arteries (a form of atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis) across Western medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), Ayurveda, and European Pagan/Slavic/Germanic folk traditions:




🔬 Western Medicine (Evidence-Based Allopathic Approach)


Primary Goals: Reduce inflammation, dissolve soft plaques, improve endothelial function, and prevent further calcification.


Best Treatments:


  • Statins (e.g., atorvastatin): Reduce cholesterol and plaque progression.
  • Vitamin K2 (MK-7): Helps redirect calcium from arteries to bones.
  • Tocotrienols (Vitamin E form): Shown to inhibit arterial calcification.
  • Taurine + Telmisartan (ARB): Powerful antioxidant synergy for endothelial repair and BP control.
  • Nattokinase: Fibrinolytic enzyme that helps dissolve clots and may reduce plaque.
  • Niacin (flush form): Improves HDL and reduces plaque.
  • TUDCA: Liver and bile acid regulator with benefits for vascular detox.
  • Lifestyle: Fasting, plant-based or ketogenic diet, weight training, sauna therapy, and cold exposure.



🌿 Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)


Focus: Balancing Qi, removing “blood stasis,” dissolving phlegm, and invigorating blood circulation.


Top Formulas/Herbs:


  • Dan Shen (Salvia miltiorrhiza): Cardioprotective; improves blood flow and reduces calcification.
  • Hong Hua (Safflower) & Chuan Xiong (Ligusticum): Move blood, dissolve stasis.
  • Ge Gen Tang + Ban Xia Hou Po Tang (custom formulas): For damp-phlegm and chest Qi stagnation.
  • Hawthorn berry (Shan Zha): Improves lipid profile and digestion.
  • Acupuncture Points: PC6, ST36, BL17, Ren17 for blood and Qi movement.



🌱 Ayurveda


Approach: Balance of Vata-Pitta-Kapha, detoxification (Panchakarma), and rejuvenation of srotas (channels).


Best Herbs & Therapies:


  • Arjuna (Terminalia arjuna): Cardioprotective, lowers blood pressure and plaque.
  • Guggul (Commiphora mukul): Clears ama (toxins), lowers LDL, and fights atherosclerosis.
  • Trikatu + Triphala: Improve digestion and detoxify metabolic waste.
  • Abhyanga (herbal oil massage) with medicated oils (e.g., Brahmi or Ashwagandha-infused).
  • Nasya therapy: Clears upper channels; helps balance prana and circulation.
  • Diet: Warm, unprocessed foods; garlic, ginger, turmeric, and amalaki-rich.



🕯️ Pagan, Slavic, and Germanic Folk Medicine


Focus: Energetic balance, detox via nature, spirit-infused remedies, and ancestral healing of the blood.


Folk Remedies & Symbolic Healing:


  • Garlic & Hawthorn: Widely used across Europe to cleanse the blood and heart.
  • Mistletoe (Viscum album): Considered sacred by Druids; used for blood pressure and circulation (use with care—can be toxic if not properly prepared).
  • Yarrow (Achillea millefolium): For “blood purification” and capillary repair.
  • Birch sap: Detox tonic in Slavic spring rituals—cleanses the liver and kidneys.
  • Juniper & Rowan Smoke: Used in Germanic/Slavic cleansing rituals to “unblock” the life force in the blood.
  • Heart Stones: Baltic amber or rose quartz worn on the chest during rituals for heart healing.
  • Healing Baths: Infused with pine, mugwort, and nettle under a full moon to "release what calcifies the soul."



🔄 Holistic Stack Example (Modern Synthesis)


  • Morning (fasted): Apple cider vinegar + cayenne + MK-7 + taurine + niacin
  • Midday: Dan Shen + Arjuna + Triphala
  • Evening: Nattokinase + TUDCA + magnesium glycinate
  • Weekly: Epsom salt sauna sessions, red light therapy, cold plunge, herbal infusion bath (nettle, yarrow, pine)



Would you like a printable guide or something tailored to your current supplement and diet regimen?
 
  • Vitamin K2 (MK-7): Helps redirect calcium from arteries to bones.
  • Tocotrienols (Vitamin E form): Shown to inhibit arterial calcification.
  • Taurine + Telmisartan (ARB): Powerful antioxidant synergy for endothelial repair and BP control.
  • Nattokinase: Fibrinolytic enzyme that helps dissolve clots and may reduce plaque.
  • Niacin (flush form): Improves HDL and reduces plaque.
  • TUDCA: Liver and bile acid regulator with benefits for vascular detox.
  • Lifestyle: Fasting, plant-based or ketogenic diet, weight training, sauna therapy, and cold exposure.
i am doing this already and rotate tudca with nac
 
What is my best course of action?

I plugged some values into ChatGPT @DOGGCRAPP

Here's a comprehensive overview of the best treatments for calcified arteries (a form of atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis) across Western medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), Ayurveda, and European Pagan/Slavic/Germanic folk traditions:




🔬 Western Medicine (Evidence-Based Allopathic Approach)


Primary Goals: Reduce inflammation, dissolve soft plaques, improve endothelial function, and prevent further calcification.


Best Treatments:


  • Statins (e.g., atorvastatin): Reduce cholesterol and plaque progression.
  • Vitamin K2 (MK-7): Helps redirect calcium from arteries to bones.
  • Tocotrienols (Vitamin E form): Shown to inhibit arterial calcification.
  • Taurine + Telmisartan (ARB): Powerful antioxidant synergy for endothelial repair and BP control.
  • Nattokinase: Fibrinolytic enzyme that helps dissolve clots and may reduce plaque.
  • Niacin (flush form): Improves HDL and reduces plaque.
  • TUDCA: Liver and bile acid regulator with benefits for vascular detox.
  • Lifestyle: Fasting, plant-based or ketogenic diet, weight training, sauna therapy, and cold exposure.



🌿 Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)


Focus: Balancing Qi, removing “blood stasis,” dissolving phlegm, and invigorating blood circulation.


Top Formulas/Herbs:


  • Dan Shen (Salvia miltiorrhiza): Cardioprotective; improves blood flow and reduces calcification.
  • Hong Hua (Safflower) & Chuan Xiong (Ligusticum): Move blood, dissolve stasis.
  • Ge Gen Tang + Ban Xia Hou Po Tang (custom formulas): For damp-phlegm and chest Qi stagnation.
  • Hawthorn berry (Shan Zha): Improves lipid profile and digestion.
  • Acupuncture Points: PC6, ST36, BL17, Ren17 for blood and Qi movement.



🌱 Ayurveda


Approach: Balance of Vata-Pitta-Kapha, detoxification (Panchakarma), and rejuvenation of srotas (channels).


Best Herbs & Therapies:


  • Arjuna (Terminalia arjuna): Cardioprotective, lowers blood pressure and plaque.
  • Guggul (Commiphora mukul): Clears ama (toxins), lowers LDL, and fights atherosclerosis.
  • Trikatu + Triphala: Improve digestion and detoxify metabolic waste.
  • Abhyanga (herbal oil massage) with medicated oils (e.g., Brahmi or Ashwagandha-infused).
  • Nasya therapy: Clears upper channels; helps balance prana and circulation.
  • Diet: Warm, unprocessed foods; garlic, ginger, turmeric, and amalaki-rich.



🕯️ Pagan, Slavic, and Germanic Folk Medicine


Focus: Energetic balance, detox via nature, spirit-infused remedies, and ancestral healing of the blood.


Folk Remedies & Symbolic Healing:


  • Garlic & Hawthorn: Widely used across Europe to cleanse the blood and heart.
  • Mistletoe (Viscum album): Considered sacred by Druids; used for blood pressure and circulation (use with care—can be toxic if not properly prepared).
  • Yarrow (Achillea millefolium): For “blood purification” and capillary repair.
  • Birch sap: Detox tonic in Slavic spring rituals—cleanses the liver and kidneys.
  • Juniper & Rowan Smoke: Used in Germanic/Slavic cleansing rituals to “unblock” the life force in the blood.
  • Heart Stones: Baltic amber or rose quartz worn on the chest during rituals for heart healing.
  • Healing Baths: Infused with pine, mugwort, and nettle under a full moon to "release what calcifies the soul."



🔄 Holistic Stack Example (Modern Synthesis)


  • Morning (fasted): Apple cider vinegar + cayenne + MK-7 + taurine + niacin
  • Midday: Dan Shen + Arjuna + Triphala
  • Evening: Nattokinase + TUDCA + magnesium glycinate
  • Weekly: Epsom salt sauna sessions, red light therapy, cold plunge, herbal infusion bath (nettle, yarrow, pine)



Would you like a printable guide or something tailored to your current supplement and diet regimen?

What was your calcium score?
 
May want to add magnesium glycinate. To that list f things to take. I have a high CAC score. And was doing many of the things, lifestyle and supplementation wise while i was accruing my high levels EK and taurine for starters. So i am not sure how well some of them may actually work. Intense training seems to lead to higher CAC scores from some studies i have seen. And carnitine supps can raise TMAO levels causing more calcification it seems too.
 
I second the garlic extract and addition of magnesium, as well a good b complex (for homocysteine regulation) with active forms to your list.

I’d monitor your SED rate, homocysteine (EQ can raise this along with higher dosages of all PEDs) and CRP. Keeping inflammation in check is key as you mentioned in your initial post.

Keeping LDL to HDL ratio correct and apo an and b in range will help prevent further soft plaque.

I like a low dose statin more so for its role in regulating CRP than I do its role with lipids for artery health. Jardiance would be another staple for me as you want to keep BG in check as that will keep your inflammation levels higher if it’s high. Limiting insulin and harsh cycles would be an obvious addition along with lifestyle and cutting back any rec drug usage.

You got this man. At the end of the day just keep inflammation in check. You know what you’re doing. 👍🏼
 
What imaging exam did they do to conclude you had calcified arteries?
 
I like a low dose statin more so for its role in regulating CRP than I do its role with lipids for artery health.
Great point , this is very important.
Just remembering, not every statin have anti inflamatory effect to the endothelium .
I go with 2mg of rosuvastatin daily for this effect. ( The most popular statin , atorvastatin (lipitor) ,has poor antiinflamatory effect )
 

Nattokinase 10,000
Ubiuqionol (Kaneka) 400-600mg/ED
Pomegranate Juice or Supplement (POMELLA) 600mg/ED
Arjuna 750mg/ED
Curcumin (Meriva, BCM-95, Longvida, C3 Complex) 1g/ED
 
The peptide bioregulators cardiogen and vesugen may be worth looking into? Cardiogen is for the heart and vesugen is for the arteries. I ordered from direct to try them as precautionary measures. They are of course experimental with very little data so who knows the long term effects for sure…


There are other bioregulators and peptides that may offer benefit as well but again, same issue. I wish you the best man. I plan to get a calcium score test soon because of my family history on my dad’s side. My cholesterol levels are solid so my dr thinks it will be fine, but better to know for sure.
 

Nattokinase 10,000
Ubiuqionol (Kaneka) 400-600mg/ED
Pomegranate Juice or Supplement (POMELLA) 600mg/ED
Arjuna 750mg/ED
Curcumin (Meriva, BCM-95, Longvida, C3 Complex) 1g/ED
someone whose info i trust ty sir
 
This is why im here! been a labrat voodoo doll self taught chemist for 17 years lmfao muay Thai the martyr on the crusade forever pioneer breaking geneticz
He experiments on himself to provide us as members with the results meaning he takes the risks (if any) so you and I don’t have to then provides his conclusions and advice to us. His approach may seem unorthodox to the untrained eye but it follows the Scientific Method and puts your high school chemistry teacher to shame.

The power of street knowledge..
 
Here is a fact a lot of people do not know. A CT (coronary calcium) gives you a CAC score. It will tell you if you have calcification of plaque in your arteries. It can ONLY measure calcified plaque, not soft plaque. Soft plaque is unstable and is the usual culprit for causing heart attacks. The only way to see soft plaque is through an angiogram. That is very intrusive and only administered to those who had a heart attack or are showing symptoms because they typically add stents during the procedure if needed. So, a CT scan will show you calcified plaque which is actually STABLE and not likely to cause a heart attack. The "THEORY" is, if you have a lot of calcified plaque you probably have a commensurate amount of soft (dangerous) plaque. IF YOU TAKE A STATIN YOUR CAC SCORE WILL INCREASE! This is not a bad thing. What has happened is, the statin helps stabilize the soft plaque (making it calcified) which is safer, but at the same time, it is now detectable so your number will rise. Conversely, you can have a zero CAC score but still die of a heart attack simply because the soft plaque has not yet calcified and cannot be detected in a CT scan.

On a side note I did have an angiogram, and the results were very similar to my CAC score, so in my case, it was pretty accurate. BTW I take: Atorvastatin, Citrulline, Arginine, baby asprin, krill oil, pomegranate capsules, and Turmeric for cardiac health.
 
For what it's worth, this is my Heart stack

Ubiquinol 400-600mg/day
Super K 2x/day
LE Curcumin 400mg 2x/day
TocoSorb 2x/day
Nattokinase 10,000fu/day
Arjuna 500mg 2x/day
81mg Aspirin
Taurine 4g/day
D-Ribose 10g/day
*I also take 140mg Repatha E2W
 

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