Did I have a heart attack

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

Hey guys.
So I was very sick on tuesday, throwing up and extreme diarrhea. It had passed by the end of the day. I then awoke at 4 in the morning with extreme pressure on my chest. Instantly ran to the kitchen to grab some aspirin. I then proceeded to try and calm down. I spent the next four hours praying and calming down. The rest of the day I laid in bed and was certain I was having a heart attack. I do not have insurance, its either food or insurance. I then went to a urgent care unit and talked with a doctor and he really opened my eyes to a lot of issues I have. He asked tons of questions and got down to it being a anxiety/ panick attack.
Anyways while I thought was having a heart attack. I prayed to just have one more chance. I have changed a lot of my perspective on life and what it means to me. I have a wife that I can't stand to leave alone on this earth. Life is much more than bodybuilding. I used to not care about the side effects or whatever happens happens. I want to live and see my kids have kids. I have committed to doing more blood work and doing everything I can to make myself last. I know this wasn't anything realated to AAS or anything.

It made me appreciate my life and most of all staying alive. I feel like that kid who was told not to jump that 100ft jump because you will crash but I said fuck it. I didn't crash this time by I'm not trying it again.

 

[Simon_454]

I feel for you man Ive had many panic attacks myself. Seems like whenever your in the middle of one you start to really question your motives on everything and if all of this is really worth it, I honestly believe its just your conscious catching up with you. Constantly taking risks everyday doing what we do puts a tremendous amount of stress on your mind whether you want to admit it or not, your subconscious knows better and will eventually make you listen. I found the best thing to do is to find a balance keep cycles sane and like you said do everything in your power to keep an eye on your health and stay healthy. I truly believe moderation is key, this is true with any aspect of life too much of anything can bad. Props to you for realizing what's really important in your life, sometimes it takes a situation like this to really see it.

 

[Bio]

Hey guys.
So I was very sick on tuesday, throwing up and extreme diarrhea. It had passed by the end of the day. I then awoke at 4 in the morning with extreme pressure on my chest. Instantly ran to the kitchen to grab some aspirin. I then proceeded to try and calm down. I spent the next four hours praying and calming down. The rest of the day I laid in bed and was certain I was having a heart attack. I do not have insurance, its either food or insurance. I then went to a urgent care unit and talked with a doctor and he really opened my eyes to a lot of issues I have. He asked tons of questions and got down to it being a anxiety/ panick attack.
Anyways while I thought was having a heart attack. I prayed to just have one more chance. I have changed a lot of my perspective on life and what it means to me. I have a wife that I can't stand to leave alone on this earth. Life is much more than bodybuilding. I used to not care about the side effects or whatever happens happens. I want to live and see my kids have kids. I have committed to doing more blood work and doing everything I can to make myself last. I know this wasn't anything realated to AAS or anything.

It made me appreciate my life and most of all staying alive. I feel like that kid who was told not to jump that 100ft jump because you will crash but I said fuck it. I didn't crash this time by I'm not trying it again.

With all due respect, I'm confused You say that it's not gear related, so what is the analogy of the 100' jump about? What risk are you no longer taking??

 

[flexdurden]

First, I am very happy you are doing better now and have used this experience as something to improve your life fot the better.

There was a time when I used to to get anxiety attacks terribly bad. Start sweating, feel pressure in your chest, can't breath, body tenses up, you lose all sense of reality.

But how often do we set out sights on something but lose our perspective of everything else, including the very foundation that would allow you to achieve your goal? In terms of bodybuilding, let's say you are a national level competitor and have a goal of one day getting your pro card. You start doing things that push your phsycal limits further and further and with each step, your health gets worse and worse, but this is all internal and not so easy to detect. Well one day, you push a little too far and reach internal organ failure. It just sneaks up on you before you know it. All fo a sudden, those dreams of being on the pro stage are just a passing thought and the only thing on your mind is staying alive to see your friends and family.

However, on the flip side, what if you are proactive with your health? Get regular bloodwork, physicals, learn to monitor signs that something is out place..etc. Well, you might not reach the point you want to get to as fast as if you abused your body with disregard, but now you have time on your side. You can maintain your health and train and grow for more time and eventually reach that point where you wanted to get to. You also get to stay healthy for your friends and family and in the time you take to let your health rebound, you can spend more time with them and enjoy new experiences.

Stay healthy.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

I undersatand

I almost lost my wife this week to bacterial endocarditis....who cares about how big your arms are ion this short lifetime.

 

[Ehren]

Jeez Phil!! Glad she's ok! You guys have had a tough go these last weeks.

My thoughts are with you for a speedy recovery and hopes for no more of these types of surprises!

 

[Stump]

Glad you are doing better BUT what test's, (EKG or lab work) did your Dr. run...if he/she ran the proper test's then one would know you had a heart attack. Your symptom's do not sound like you was having one other then the chest pain but I'm not a heart specialist... (I had one in Feb '12 and my symptoms were upset stomach then later on chest pain along with heavy sweating, my RCA was 99% blocked and required a stent). As for AAS you need to rethink this...As Phil stated the most important thing in life is family not big arms, so again if you think you are having heart issue's rethink AAS...just my 2 cents. A good person to contact about this would be Maldorf. Good luck and I hope you get better.

 

[Ehren]

To the OP: Glad you came out of it ok and learned something! Sorry you experienced that.

Many of us have "wake-ups" of this kind and not just from gear. Lose a friend, have an accident or stare down what seems like a black hole at the wrong end of a gun. All you want at that moment is more time.

These types of changes only last if you remember this feeling though and what you knew was important in your darkest hour. So, remember it and use it, Man!

 

[Baxo]

dose your miocardial necrosis markers and you'll discover if it was a heart attack or a panic one... troponin, creatinokinasis, ckmb and perform an ECG.

 

[ThinkTank]

nevermind...

 

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

With all due respect, I'm confused You say that it's not gear related, so what is the analogy of the 100' jump about? What risk are you no longer taking??

Blood work and the doctor said they were unrelated minus the above average blood pressure.

I guess I was just meaning going balls to the wall in all aspects of life.

 

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

Doctor took a full blood panel and also some test to look for some chemicals or something that was released after you have a heart attack. I have done moderate cycles never over 1gm. It was just a freaky thing. I wasnt so worried about the anabolic because of previous blood work but after reading about Maldorf, that's what got me tripping about the heart attack. I guess what I'm trying to say is it was an eye opener to value life more.

Thanks for all the good wishes.


I have a full blood check up in a two week and daily check ins for ten days.

 

[Google&Pubmed]

I almost lost my wife this week to bacterial endocarditis....who cares about how big your arms are ion this short lifetime.

Jesus. I hope Pam recovers fully ASAP Phil. I am truly sorry to hear that happened.

Doctor took a full blood panel and also some test to look for some chemicals or something that was released after you have a heart attack. I have done moderate cycles never over 1gm. It was just a freaky thing. I wasnt so worried about the anabolic because of previous blood work but after reading about Maldorf, that's what got me tripping about the heart attack. I guess what I'm trying to say is it was an eye opener to value life more.

Thanks for all the good wishes.


I have a full blood check up in a two week and daily check ins for ten days.

Man i hope you fully recover also and take it easy. Seriously just try to live a healthy life and as long as possible.

 

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

Thanks GoogleP.

I'm taking two weeks off from lifting and just live normal for a while. Im going to try to go on vacation for a lil bit and eat normal is the hardest part. I lost about ten pounds because of vomiting.
.love you guys here

 

[mace123]

Thanks GoogleP.

I'm taking two weeks off from lifting and just live normal for a while. Im going to try to go on vacation for a lil bit and eat normal is the hardest part. I lost about ten pounds because of vomiting.
.love you guys here

Best of luck to you bro. I know that panic attacks can be an extremely frightening ordeal.

It is my experience that once you have one, more are likely to follow.

If it happens again (it's usually at night), turn on all the lights and try to do something to take your mind off of it. I like to start cooking a big complex meal and drink some red wine.

You will want to avoid excessive drinking and all stimulants for awhile, and that includes caffeine.

Try to do these things for a month at least because if you have a couple more attacks it can get a lot worse, where you will be in constant worry over an attack, second guess your medical evaluation, and worry yourself into panic attacks, and that can be a vicious cycle to break because every attack validates your "irrational" fears.

If you start getting one, try to do a few controlled breaths. Slow 4 second inhale, hold for 2-3 seconds, then a slow 5 second exhale.

 

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

Thanks mace123

I was told by the doctor to live normal and He also gave me some literature on how to control it. I also got perscription pills to help calm me down for the next few weeks. He said sometimes we can be in denial about a lot of things in our life and our concious mind can put it off but our subconscious doesn't. I have had a ton of work, family, and life issue that he believes has led up to this. By the way it means a lot to me when you guys respond.
Thanks

 

[Hank the Tank]

Many body builders inject over 1 g per day! It was definitely not gear related. Panic attacks feel just like a heart attack. Whenever I have one, I go for a walk and concentrate on my breathing. Take deep breaths in through your nose and out of your mouth. Always works for me!

 

[emeric delczeg]

Doctor took a full blood panel and also some test to look for some chemicals or something that was released after you have a heart attack. I have done moderate cycles never over 1gm. It was just a freaky thing. I wasnt so worried about the anabolic because of previous blood work but after reading about Maldorf, that's what got me tripping about the heart attack. I guess what I'm trying to say is it was an eye opener to value life more.

Thanks for all the good wishes.


I have a full blood check up in a two week and daily check ins for ten days.

I would not call 1g moderate cycle.

 

[SAVAGEPMHNP]

From my experience, when I used AAS in my early twenties, it increased my anxiety tenfold and I had anxiety attacks pretty regularly from Test and Tren.

 

[notsonaturalANYMORE]

I would not call 1g moderate cycle.

I understand how that came off but what I should have said is the most I have done is a grm.