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DNP - All the Info is Here!

Yeah totally, i think my first run ended up being twice as long as I expected so I know exactly what you mean. I have a time crunch on mine because I’m getting gyno surgery and wanted to drop a few lbs before it, but also a few days of buffer to make sure it clears my system.

The different brand thing and purity is a big one to be sure, who knows what the last stuff was actually dosed at, I’ll play it safe and maybe do two caps but maybe just a single cap for my first run and play it safe. Leave the experimenting for later.

Also you’re fairly knowledgeable do you think short runs of DNP are worth it as mini-cut tools? I plan to be bulking for a very long time and I think DNP along with low carb would be great intermittently to reset the body and insulin sensitivity.

Yes I think DNP is an amazing tool for mini cuts. DNP is fantastic at 2 times for me and the first is when trying to lose fat but more specifically at the last stage of a diet. The second time is during a mini cut within a long offseason. I see a lot of guys eat too much and add DNP in planned and frequent cycles which I don't agree with but for your purpose I think it's ideal. Anyone trying to gain lot's of muscle over a long period are going to gain optimally by adding a little fluff and over time adding in a quick reset can do wonders for long term results (and even health). In that event maybe half carbs and add in 1 cap for 7-14 days and that should be plenty but do whatever you think is best and what is needed at the time.
 
Hello guys, i had a question with DNP.. in a hair transplant is there any risk of the grafts being damaged in the postoperative period? The doctor told me to do 0 gym in 3-4 weeks.. and during that time i had thought about walking alone and using dnp only at 250-300mg. But I want to be sure.
Does anyone have information on that? Thanks.
Hey bro , taking time off from gym is better post surgery. You can resume gym after 3 weeks approx depending on recovery.

Jim
 
Im correctly 8% bf.
I want to take 200mg for 2 weeks but i scared that at this bf i will lose muscle although im on test tren and hgh.
I dont want to lose weight i want to lose fat.
Is the dnp worth at low bf?
 
Im correctly 8% bf.
I want to take 200mg for 2 weeks but i scared that at this bf i will lose muscle although im on test tren and hgh.
I dont want to lose weight i want to lose fat.
Is the dnp worth at low bf?
Yes it’s worth it. You won’t lose muscle if you keep protein on the higher end, at least i never do

just be prepared to LOOK like you’ve lost muscle while on dnp, flat as a pancake
 
Im correctly 8% bf.
I want to take 200mg for 2 weeks but i scared that at this bf i will lose muscle although im on test tren and hgh.
I dont want to lose weight i want to lose fat.
Is the dnp worth at low bf?

dnp is not particularly catanolic
 
Im correctly 8% bf.
I want to take 200mg for 2 weeks but i scared that at this bf i will lose muscle although im on test tren and hgh.
I dont want to lose weight i want to lose fat.
Is the dnp worth at low bf?

DNP won't target muscle like that. Now sure the leaner you get the higher probability of muscle loss but not at those stats if you keep protein high and are using those compounds and training effectively. You may flatten out more and you may add some water retention so you will look worse on it but with the right diet and everything in place it could be perfect for your goals. In order to get to where you want to be you are going to have to embrace the flatness and push through.
 
DNP won't target muscle like that. Now sure the leaner you get the higher probability of muscle loss but not at those stats if you keep protein high and are using those compounds and training effectively. You may flatten out more and you may add some water retention so you will look worse on it but with the right diet and everything in place it could be perfect for your goals. In order to get to where you want to be you are going to have to embrace the flatness and push through.
I assume a few days after i drop the dnp the hardness will come back right?
 
I assume a few days after i drop the dnp the hardness will come back right?

I would carry on dieting for another week after dropping DNP then start reintroducing carbs and the fullness will come back straightaway. After dropping DNP it will still be in your system for about 1 week so it will take time for your body to get back to 100% hardness/fullness. Always give yourself ATLEAST 2 weeks if you plan to load carbs afterwards.
 
What’s everyone’s vitamin stack while running a decent DNP cycle?
 
What’s everyone’s vitamin stack while running a decent DNP cycle?

In the past I used more but now I will pretty much keep to my usual supplement plan. I may add in an extra serving of greens powder, fish oil and possibly some extra vitamin c but that's mainly because I am restricting calories more. There is no need to add thyroid medication unless it's already in your plan. I use glutamine most of the year and it's a great supplement especially for gut health.

The basics should be enough and the main focus should be on hydration and protein intake. I do feel taking some anti-oxidants especially due to eye/general health could be useful especially during longer cycles but quality over quantity and there is no need to add in loads of extra supplements just because you are using DNP for a few weeks.
 
In the past I used more but now I will pretty much keep to my usual supplement plan. I may add in an extra serving of greens powder, fish oil and possibly some extra vitamin c but that's mainly because I am restricting calories more. There is no need to add thyroid medication unless it's already in your plan. I use glutamine most of the year and it's a great supplement especially for gut health.

The basics should be enough and the main focus should be on hydration and protein intake. I do feel taking some anti-oxidants especially due to eye/general health could be useful especially during longer cycles but quality over quantity and there is no need to add in loads of extra supplements just because you are using DNP for a few weeks.
Vit E for eye health. I want to do a mini maybe ten day eod , so five days, of dnp @ 250 mgs , coming up , next couple weeks, but I go otuside every mornign in 100 degrees here, then work, in and out of heat, but not too bad at work, unless air isnt working, and kind of hesitate to run this, as how hot it is. a few weeks ago did 2.5 weeks and 66 degree air in room, was still soaking pillow and sheets, sewta drenching back of neck , running down, making sleep more difficult.
 
What’s everyone’s vitamin stack while running a decent DNP cycle?

As far as stuff that applies only to when it's running
Taurine 3g daily
Calcium Pyruvate 1500mg daily
Powerade Zero 20 oz. 2-3 daily
Water water water
(Gaspari Anavite routine regimen)
 
i think minimum of a 300%+ of a normal vitamin intake, plus high L-glutammine intake and ALA and some T-4.
Wouldn't the T4 be useless since DNP inhibits T4 to T3 conversion.
Better to take "low dose" T3.
 
DNP - By the Guru

DNP - By Monte E. “DNP Guru”

About Monte - Poor fella got busted for selling DNP!

This is an educational article covering different aspects of DNP and is intended only to educate the reader about DNP. This article is far from comprehensive, but it should provide a good background to get the reader started on learning about DNP.

In this article I will attempt to cover the following topics regarding DNP:

History
Mechanism of Action
Dose and Cycle Recommendations
Dietary Recommendations
Side effects/ risks
Prevention/ Contraindications
Recommended supplements with DNP

HISTORY:

DNP stands for 2,4-dinitrophenol. This is a chemical that was once used in the early 20th century to ignite dynamite and cast a yellow dye on wood and other handcrafts. A few years later demographical statistics showed that employees who worked with DNP everyday tended to lose weight, often rapidly. One fall out from this was a study conducted by Stanford University in 1920 showing that the ingestion of DNP does in fact cause weight loss. This prompted physicians to prescribe DNP to obese patients of that era. DNP was on the market for 2 decades as a weight loss drug and was eventually taken off the market and banned for human consumption by the FDA because there was a report of cataract formation among female users of this drug which turned out to be false. This chemical is still deemed too dangerous by the FDA to allow it to come back to the pharmaceutical marketplace. Over the decades of research on DNP, scientists have never shown it to have the ability to cause cancer or any other mutations despite the fact that it’s a phenol and that most phenolic compounds are carcinogenic. DNP is now only used as a research chemical and as a pesticide in a few states that still approve of its use. It is not illegal to own DNP, but it is illegal to market it for personal consumption.

MECHANISM OF ACTION:

DNP exerts its effects within the cell, more specifically within the membrane of the mitochondria. The advantage of intracellular mechanisms of action such as this is that a tolerance to DNP cannot develop. To make a long story short, DNP makes the process of ATP formation very inefficient. Why is this important? Because ATP is the energy unit needed to drive all our biochemical reactions in our body that is necessary to keep us alive. The cells in our body constantly need energy (ATP) to stay alive. The amount of ATP needed to keep a person alive depends on his/her basal metabolic rate. By making ATP formation inefficient, a person’s basal metabolic rate can increase indefinitely, but for practical uses, basal metabolic rate can safely increase by 30-50% without putting one’s life in danger. It is not unheard of for people to lose up to one pound of pure fat per day while on DNP.

If you’re not familiar with ATP, it’s what the Calories that are stored in carbs, fats, and proteins are eventually turned into. In other words, the energy that is stored in the macromolecules are transferred to the ATP molecule, but DNP disrupts this process. Instead of making ATP from macromolecules in the presence of DNP, the potential energy is just turned into heat. This is very significant because ATP levels in the body will quickly diminish and cells want to replenish that storage by breaking down more fats, carbs, etc. As you can see, a patter quickly develops where ATP levels will constantly be below normal and the body will always be trying to burn more fats, carbs, and proteins to help replenish the ATP levels. This is no different than doing aerobic exercises such as jogging, biking, etc, except while on DNP, the body is doing the aerobic exercise non stop 24 hours a day.


DOSES AND CYCLE RECOMMENDATIONS:

DNP is not a drug for everyone, definitely not the beginner who just wants to lose a couple of pounds to look better with the shirt off… Without proper education on its use, DNP can be deadly.

There are 2 forms of DNP currently on the market, pure crystalline (100% dry) DNP, and powdered DNP (usually 5-10% moisture). The crystalline version is stronger and more effective, but more caution needs to be used while using it. It acts much faster, and the side effects also subside faster as well.

I recommend between 2-6mg/kg-bw per day for crystalline DNP and 4-10mg/kg-bw for powdered DNP. A beginner should always start off at the low end to assess tolerance. Trying this for the first time 2 weeks before a competition can be disastrous. A 220lb man is 100kg exactly. This means that if he is a first time user of crystalline DNP then he should take 200mg per day. I suggest staying with this dose for at least 3 days to keep it safe, then slowly increase the dosage. 400mg/day can be used, but never take it all at once. Always split up the doses as far as possible, so for 400mg/day that would mean taking 1 200mg capsule every 12 hours. Only on rare occasions should someone attempt 600mg/day with the crystalline capsules unless it’s used by a very experienced user and all the vital signs are closely monitored.

Cycle length depends largely on the individual. At first it was thought that a DNP cycle should be limited to 10 days at the most because the thyroids shuts down and t4 to t3 conversion in the liver becomes nil, however, this is not the case. 10 days is a very arbitrary number. A person taking 200mg/day would have almost completely normal thyroid function at day 10 whereas if s/he took 600mg/day, t3 would be non existent after 3 days. While the t3 hormone plays a very large role in determining fat loss, it should not be a big concern while on DNP because the fat burning capabilities of DNP will more than compensate for the suppressed t3 levels. An advantage to suppressed t3 levels is that the body will burn much less muscle while still burning fat on DNP. Normal t3 and thyroid function is restored within a week of stopping DNP.

The Guru
i her that dnp make you burn 50%more calories on exercise. is this true?
 
Anyone know what the shelf life on DNP might be? I have 4 year old capsules sitting around that have been tempting me. I opened one capsule up and it looked just fine. Its been stored in a dark cool place in its original foil packaging. I searched around the forum and one guy said he took 5 year old soggy DNP and it was fine, lol. Just curious if anyone else has any experience with old DNP. If not for the Canada Post strike I'd just order new stuff, but I heard the last strike lasted 30+ days and even after the strike the postal service here might still suck. Anyways, I also did the burn test and it kind of burned, but not really. Not sure how reliable the burn test is, especially since I didn't do the burn test when I got them 4 years back. It did somewhat burn though. I guess I mostly worried about what it might be cut with expiring after 4 years more so than the DNP itself. Would love to hear your guys thoughts!
 

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Anyone know what the shelf life on DNP might be? I have 4 year old capsules sitting around that have been tempting me. I opened one capsule up and it looked just fine. Its been stored in a dark cool place in its original foil packaging. I searched around the forum and one guy said he took 5 year old soggy DNP and it was fine, lol. Just curious if anyone else has any experience with old DNP. If not for the Canada Post strike I'd just order new stuff, but I heard the last strike lasted 30+ days and even after the strike the postal service here might still suck. Anyways, I also did the burn test and it kind of burned, but not really. Not sure how reliable the burn test is, especially since I didn't do the burn test when I got them 4 years back. It did somewhat burn though. I guess I mostly worried about what it might be cut with expiring after 4 years more so than the DNP itself. Would love to hear your guys thoughts!

They should be fine. They will still do the job.
 

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