do androgens cause similar nitro retention like anabolics?

[gimmejuice]

People always jock the nitrogen retention one gets from EQ and Deca. Does this not happen when taking test also?

thanks,
GJ

 

[rippedboy]

androgens and estrogens bloat you, but im not sure if androgens bloat you sub-Q like estrogens do. i think it might be only intra-muscular water retention because thats why you look so full when on test, dbol, etc when you use arimidex to eliminate sub-q water retention, but androgens do bloat.

 

[Sanjac]

Androgens bloat because they form estrogens. Using an anti-e eliminates the bloat, meaning that androgens by themselves do not bloat.

As for nitrogen retention (muscle building), none of the "anabolics" such as eq and deca can beat good old testosterone.

SJ

 

[MikeS]

By nitrogen retention I think he means incresed availability of blood protein (nitrogen) levels - this is through diet. The action that is assisted by anabolics androgens is intercellular -it occurs after the Androgen receptor enters the cell and goes into the nucleus to deliver its message. Then its carried out by mRNA sending the signal to the mitochondria to synthesis protein levels to a greater degree.

But I really dont understand the question!

 

[Frusciante]

givemejuice

Are you refering to the fluctuation of potassium and sodium from different drug choices? there a chain of evens that occur

what are you asking specifically?

 

[gimmejuice]

thanks for the responses.

When talking with people about deca, I've heard them say they like it because it causes "nitrogen retention" which in turn causes muscle growth. I'm not sure exactly what they mean, and I'm also curious if it causes muscle growth through some other mechanism than say testosterone, dbol, etc. I've also seen somthing like that on labels on various deca and EQ.

I'm mainly asking about this because I'm only taking test right now, and am wondering if I'd benefit greatly by adding EQ or deca.

thanks fellas,
GJ