Do orals stop working at some point

[Scuncknuts]

I'm about to go on anavar only at 50 per day as my cycles get weaker and weaker as I get old and shitty and broke.

Many years ago I would change my oral every 5 weeks because I felt like my anger and acne would just get worse and gains would be stagnant. Anyone had experience with this?

 

[luki7788]

Yes - When your liver stops functioning

 

[d4ve]

I'm about to go on anavar only at 50 per day as my cycles get weaker and weaker as I get old and shitty and broke.

Many years ago I would change my oral every 5 weeks because I felt like my anger and acne would just get worse and gains would be stagnant. Anyone had experience with this?

Change "your oral" every 5 weeks...meaning you did (or still do) just run orals for months on end?

Far be it for me to criticize harshly here, I rarely drop down to TRT...but nonstop oral use is begging for problems.

Bro logic and a gut feel tells me this is probably the case, i.e. the visual pop and rapid strength gains are going to be more noticeable if you use orals sparingly.

But your post gives me the impression you're not exactly controlling all of the other variables, anyway.

 

[Scuncknuts]

I have not used an oral antibiotic in probably 8 years. In the past I did take orals up to 10 or 11 weeks. I took all the harsh ones back in the day sometimes two at a time

 

[dantes]

I have not used an oral antibiotic in probably 8 years. In the past I did take orals up to 10 or 11 weeks. I took all the harsh ones back in the day sometimes two at a time

So are you referring to oral AAS or antibiotics I am getting confused? Anyway I have no idea why you would run just anavar.

 

[FakeName123]

I have not used an oral antibiotic in probably 8 years. In the past I did take orals up to 10 or 11 weeks. I took all the harsh ones back in the day sometimes two at a time

The harsh oral antibiotics like gentamicin?

Hardcore.

 

[mexbeast]

Trolling?

 

[Scuncknuts]

Anabolic, autocorrect changed it.

 

[massephase]

as I get old and shitty and broke

you are doing the aging thing wrong man

 

[GYMnTONIC]

High quality Var, you really only need 30mgs a day. I used to administer it in the hospital setting, it was rarely used but when I did see patients on it, they did get very lean and muscular after a year on even doses as low as 10mgs.

The UGL stuff, yeah you probably need 30-60mgs to get the same effect as many watered down versions. Var can be pretty pricy.

Like anything you get immune to dosages and like someone mentioned, metabolism which is dependent on organ health.

Another thing you can try is to take your orals with Grapefruit Juice. Recall it , in lamens terms can strengthen oral steroids, or medications. Just be careful doing that if you are on any anti psych drugs or strong pain meds bc It can make them so strong, it can be dangerous.

[Does grapefruit juice increase the bioavailability of orally administered sex steroids?] - PubMed

Our results suggest that grapefruit juice may increase bioavailability of orally administered estradiol and progesterone. The response varies markedly between individuals. This observation may be of some importance also for users of OC and HRT.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2125.1998.00764.x

 

[mass4all]

High quality Var, you really only need 30mgs a day. I used to administer it in the hospital setting, it was rarely used but when I did see patients on it, they did get very lean and muscular after a year on even doses as low as 10mgs.

The UGL stuff, yeah you probably need 30-60mgs to get the same effect as many watered down versions. Var can be pretty pricy.

Like anything you get immune to dosages and like someone mentioned, metabolism which is dependent on organ health.

Another thing you can try is to take your orals with Grapefruit Juice. Recall it , in lamens terms can strengthen oral steroids, or medications. Just be careful doing that if you are on any anti psych drugs or strong pain meds bc It can make them so strong, it can be dangerous.

[Does grapefruit juice increase the bioavailability of orally administered sex steroids?] - PubMed

Our results suggest that grapefruit juice may increase bioavailability of orally administered estradiol and progesterone. The response varies markedly between individuals. This observation may be of some importance also for users of OC and HRT.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2125.1998.00764.x

Do you think it would be safe to run 10-20mg anavar for a year or so?

 

[kadafi2]

If someone thinks that some drug - not necessarily oral - "has stopped working", let them stop taking it and observe how their body changes - negatively, of course. Then it will probably turn out clearly that what they were taking "worked".

 

[FakeName123]

If someone thinks that some drug - not necessarily oral - "has stopped working", let them stop taking it and observe how their body changes - negatively, of course. Then it will probably turn out clearly that what they were taking "worked".

Lmfao

I'm about to go on anavar only at 50 per day as my cycles get weaker and weaker as I get old and shitty and broke.

Many years ago I would change my oral every 5 weeks because I felt like my anger and acne would just get worse and gains would be stagnant. Anyone had experience with this?

Orals should be cycled with anals every two weeks. Body absorbs it different and it will defer tolerance indefinitely. Just got some superdrol rectal suppository, starting it today. I heard from gh15 top elf that this bypasses first pass liver toxicity as well similar to injectables but even better.

 

[Elvia1023]

High quality Var, you really only need 30mgs a day. I used to administer it in the hospital setting, it was rarely used but when I did see patients on it, they did get very lean and muscular after a year on even doses as low as 10mgs.

The UGL stuff, yeah you probably need 30-60mgs to get the same effect as many watered down versions. Var can be pretty pricy.

Like anything you get immune to dosages and like someone mentioned, metabolism which is dependent on organ health.

Another thing you can try is to take your orals with Grapefruit Juice. Recall it , in lamens terms can strengthen oral steroids, or medications. Just be careful doing that if you are on any anti psych drugs or strong pain meds bc It can make them so strong, it can be dangerous.

[Does grapefruit juice increase the bioavailability of orally administered sex steroids?] - PubMed

Our results suggest that grapefruit juice may increase bioavailability of orally administered estradiol and progesterone. The response varies markedly between individuals. This observation may be of some importance also for users of OC and HRT.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2125.1998.00764.x

You can't talk in absolutes like that as everyone is different and will require a different dose. In regards to pharm vs UG 10mg avar is 10mg avar. So you don't need more UG avar than pharm at all. Well if your 10mg UG avar is really 5mg and underdosed then sure you need double. If it's fake you obviously won't get any results. Something is fake or real but you can't state if you require x pharm dose you will need y UG dose it doesn't work like that.

All of the people you likely gave it to in a clinical setting had never used it before and they were probably out of shape normal people so of course 10-30mg will make a big difference and help build some muscle. UG avar dosed at 10-30mg would do exactly the same thing. That doesn't mean everyone only needs that amount though. A regular out of shape person and a 200-300 pound bodybuilder who have taken many different AAS in the past are very different things. There is no 1 set rule in all of this.

In regards to the OP no orals don't just stop working but say 30mg avar is going to put on 8 pounds on you with your current diet then if you do that after 6 weeks you are not just going to carry on putting on more weight/muscle if you use the same oral. There is a ceiling limit to everything and you will have to increase the dose or change something else (increase protein etc) to carry on changing. Another thing most people stop respsonding as well as they get older especially if they run the same thing over and over. Moreover, if your physique develops singificantly in that time as well it may mean you require more to get a similar effect. It's very different taking 30mg as a natural weighing 180 pounds compared to taking 30mg 20 years later after 40 AAS cycles weighing 50 pounds more.

 

[Elvia1023]

On the subject of 10mg avar I was just looking at this...

Janoshik Analytical

 

[specter]

On the subject of 10mg avar I was just looking at this...

Janoshik Analytical

My friends lab just had anavar tabs testet at Janoshik 3 tabs from different bottles.. all came back close to 10mg was like 9.6mg 10.2mg and 10.8mg

 

[yellowbird1]

They don't stop working. I take pre workout only. I don't take them on off days. I only train 4 days per week. Never felt them stop. I usually rotate anadrol and anavar. Anadrol for the hardest days like legs.

 

[Scuncknuts]

I'm taking 50 mg for 10 weeks 150 tabs. Hopefully my liver survives. What's the longest yall stayed on orals?

 

[abt10]

I'm taking 50 mg for 10 weeks 150 tabs. Hopefully my liver survives. What's the longest yall stayed on orals?

20 var 20 win
Dont take bloods. Dont care.
I feel good. Fast. Strong. Lived a full life.
I'm over my life expectancy as it is.
If I fall over one day. Oh well.

 

[pins]

I do orals,dbol and drol 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off nonstop.Of course with test and deca.Been doing this for years.