Do ya'll guys wife and gf workout?

biglizard225 · Apr 9, 2017

get it in ya said:
I laugh when I see guys getting married in 2 years, or 5. how about 20 maybe? it takes 10 to see the true colors. sorry but most guys are suckers, I will keep what I earned. I have been with my gf for 4 years, great girl, just great all around but if she pressured me with that marriage nonsense it would be over. what changes for the good if you get married? I see no need for it unless you have been together a very long time. I will keep my pension, annuity, roth ira and home. thank you. btw I have no kids, because I am smart

Oh man, if you only knew how much you would wanna go back and slap yourself for saying that when and if you ever do have one. It changes your world man. It may not be for everyone but it's definitely one of life's pleasures and you never know until you experience it.

I won't comment on guys who aren't married who are against it because your choice is yours to make but I think a lot of guys make assumptions and are against something they truly don't know the meaning of. Marriage is a state in which you make the ultimate commitment. People these day believe less and less of this way of doing things. It's also has to do with religious beliefs. I have faith in God that he will carry me threw any hard times and I trust he has a plan for me no matter what. If that's not your belief than I don't judge you for that but I won't agree with some of the things posted here. Some decent points and some things I don't feel are true.

I notice a lot of people these days don't want to really work at relationships they think it should just stay easy like it did when they first started dating, it's just not the case, it shouldn't be a living hell but it's definitely not the easiest thing by any means, find someone you love that loves you for who you are and puts up with your shit because a woman who can put up with the stuff we do is a woman worth keeping, no matter if she goes to the gym or not

little slice · Apr 9, 2017

biglizard225 said:
Oh man, if you only knew how much you would wanna go back and slap yourself for saying that when and if you ever do have one. It changes your world man. It may not be for everyone but it's definitely one of life's pleasures and you never know until you experience it.

I won't comment on guys who aren't married who are against it because your choice is yours to make but I think a lot of guys make assumptions and are against something they truly don't know the meaning of. Marriage is a state in which you make the ultimate commitment. People these day believe less and less of this way of doing things. It's also has to do with religious beliefs. I have faith in God that he will carry me threw any hard times and I trust he has a plan for me no matter what. If that's not your belief than I don't judge you for that but I won't agree with some of the things posted here. Some decent points and some things I don't feel are true.

I notice a lot of people these days don't want to really work at relationships they think it should just stay easy like it did when they first started dating, it's just not the case, it shouldn't be a living hell but it's definitely not the easiest thing by any means, find someone you love that loves you for who you are and puts up with your shit because a woman who can put up with the stuff we do is a woman worth keeping, no matter if she goes to the gym or not

oh you sweet summer child..

joking aside, this is a conundrum that inevitably arises when these things are discussed.

-the guys with great marriages think people like me are cynical, pessimistic, etc..

-the guys who have been dragged through the gauntlet by ex-wives and the state see me as the smartest guy in the world.

oftentimes, the guys who say "marriage is great lol" after 2 years are the very same guys who end up looking like smeagol after the state has taken their children, their home, and 60% of their paycheck every month for the next 18 years.

nothuman · Apr 9, 2017

little slice said:
oh you sweet summer child..

joking aside, this is a conundrum that inevitably arises when these things are discussed.

-the guys with great marriages think people like me are cynical, pessimistic, etc..

-the guys who have been dragged through the gauntlet by ex-wives and the state see me as the smartest guy in the world.

oftentimes, the guys who say "marriage is great lol" after 2 years are the very same guys who end up looking like smeagol after the state has taken their children, their home, and 60% of their paycheck every month for the next 18 years.

I agree with this.

It all comes back to what I said earlier in the thread. Not all cases are the same. It's the same discussion when discussing what IFBB pros take. All will be different. Same comes to women, men, and marriages alike. Not everyone will have the same experiences so it's unfair to base their own happy/unhappy marriage off of anyone else's.

nothuman · Apr 9, 2017

little slice said:
I don't hate women.. and I really don't understand why people think that I do.

sounds like laziness to be honest.. it's way easier to say "oh, well you just hate women" rather than interrogating my positions on the matter.

my entire problem - what everything boils down to, is the state's intrusion into our lives.. more specifically, into the institution of marriage.

this revolves primarily around family court and the issues surrounding separation of assets, alimony, and child custody.

the way things are currently structured, women are given IMMENSE power after the wedding vows are exchanged..

it's pretty obvious when the power balance starts to shift.. she'll get fat, more nagging, start withholding sex as a form of coercive punishment, etc.

what changed? she was given immense power by the state.

well, what about men?

I completely agree, men who would do the same thing are absolute shit.

however, again, due to the way society is structured - men studying engineering while women major in art, men tend to still be the breadwinners... so they are not afforded the same power and degree of sympathy that women enjoy when the relationship takes a turn for the worse.

they are the ones paying alimony and child support. they are the ones with something (a LOT) to lose if things go south.

if the man becomes fat, naggy, an asshole, she leaves, and takes loads of his shit with her.

a relevant example however... I know of a couple, the woman is VERY physically limited in what she can do. she can walk, but cant really bend over or carry things.

while her husband is the breadwinner, he has become an absolute fat piece of shit... probably hasn't seen his dick since the turn of the millennium.

she can't afford to leave him, because of her disabilities.

so in essence, people are shit, and government intrusion has allowed them to become even more shit.

women are just given more opportunities to be shit. men would probably be quite similar if they were afforded such plentiful opportunities.

I really hate to lump all women in one category but what you say is absolutely true. But again, it comes down to the individual, which I'm sure you would agree with.

zee-man · Apr 9, 2017

For me personally, I don't expect my girl to look like a fitness model or VS model, I just want get to take care of herself for the sake of her health.

Whether she does cardio, dance, lifting, yoga, whatever, taking care of your body will ensure more quality living later. I'm 100% against just accepting falling apart as I age - co workers 2 years older already developing beer bellies as skinny guys, fuck that.

All I want is for her to try. And making the effort to something like health and fitness - not vanity / IG followers - makes you a better person.

little slice · Apr 9, 2017

nothuman said:
I really hate to lump all women in one category but what you say is absolutely true. But again, it comes down to the individual, which I'm sure you would agree with.

it's not so much lumping all women together, it's lumping all people.

the greatest power you can have in any relationship, is the ability to walk away in a moment's notice.

for example, say your boss is an asshole, and he knows that you absolutely NEED that job... do you think he will treat you well? or do you think he will exploit you as much as he can get away with?

if he knows that you can leave at the drop of a hat and find employment elsewhere, he will be much more agreeable.

in the same way, do you think your spouse will treat you better if he/she knows that you can just flip them the bird as you ride off into the sunset?

this is why a monogamous, but unmarried relationship is optimal. the two participants MUST treat each other with love and respect, because the ability to leave immediately is always on the table

it is the most equal and equitable form of relationship.

Alzadosghost · Apr 10, 2017

My woman does not work out or really do anything healthy. She wakes up drinks coffee and smokes lol. We are complete polar opposites. I wake up at 4 am everyday work or not and jump out of bed stoked. She always complains about being tired and hits the snooze button 4-6 times and wakes up grumpy as fuck lol we couldn't be any different. But we get along good we don't judge each other and she didn't try to change me and she dosnt micro manage my business like all the fit girls Iv been with. Every girl Iv been with that was into fitness was impossible to get along with and asked way too many fucking questions I refused to answer. I live in the gym when I'm not working. She has never went once in 4 years and I don't even care. We both cook we both clean and split the bills down the middle. It's pretty perfect as far as I'm concerned

biglizard225 · Apr 10, 2017

Alzadosghost said:
My woman does not work out or really do anything healthy. She wakes up drinks coffee and smokes lol. We are complete polar opposites. I wake up at 4 am everyday work or not and jump out of bed stoked. She always complains about being tired and hits the snooze button 4-6 times and wakes up grumpy as fuck lol we couldn't be any different. But we get along good we don't judge each other and she didn't try to change me and she dosnt micro manage my business like all the fit girls Iv been with. Every girl Iv been with that was into fitness was impossible to get along with and asked way too many fucking questions I refused to answer. I live in the gym when I'm not working. She has never went once in 4 years and I don't even care. We both cook we both clean and split the bills down the middle. It's pretty perfect as far as I'm concerned

Lol social media has screwed people's mindsets on this topic. You get on IG and you see all these successful bodybuilders who have this perfect bodybuilding life where there spouse is a fitness girl or lifts weights and lives in the gym with the guy but truth is its bull shit because most guys I know who compete there wives are normal people who don't exercise or any of that shit.

So what happens is you have people who see this stuff on social media and think well since Flex Lewis's wife does this and is like this my girl should be like that. I call bull shit. If you happen to come across a fitness chick you like go for it but the majority of people I've known or scene have had nothing but bad experiences with them. I know I don't want someone who does what I do it's too selfish, I couldn't raise a family with someone who was like me. Screw that. People are extremely shallow these days. Happiness and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's hard to understand loving someone for who they are when you don't love yourself for who you are.

Some of you guys might get that I already know a few in this thread that won't but hey like I said earlier I'm not here to judge anyone just pointing what I've seen.

Fit2Serve · Apr 10, 2017

little slice said:
Fastest way to make a fit girl fat is to marry her

LS knows how i feel about this and imo he is spot on with this comment
my wife literally gets pissy and wants to skip subject when i start to tell her i am gonna do a diet and get in shape.... i can hear her getting fatter lol. i love her but whew.... she used to buy medium nighties etc now is buying large. thats like 3-4 sizes bigger in a womans world lol. yikes.
it wont stop either. gonna get worse and worse.... i never fucked a fat chic before.... bet i get to soon

(that all prob sounded a lil harsh, i love her but man we all lose cuz her weight gain. she doesnt wanna have sex, wont wear sexy clothes or lingerie... gets jelous of me being in shape, insecure and worries i am looking at other women.... which of course i am LOL
such a downward spiral weight gain is....
-F2S

little slice · Apr 10, 2017

biglizard225 said:
Happiness and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's hard to understand loving someone for who they are when you don't love yourself for who you are.

that's a very nice sentiment.. beauty may 'be in the eye of the beholder', but there are still universally applicable standards of what is attractive and unattractive.

it's very easy to be happy with your partner when they put in the effort to please you. but what happens when they put on 80 pounds? or 180 pounds?

what if they start smoking heavily, go full couch potato mode, and decide to let their hygiene go to complete shit?

what then?

would you still love them "for who they are" even though they clearly don't give a shit about making you happy?

to illustrate:

two guys are having a conversation about their marriages.

Guy 1 has a beautiful wife who takes care of herself and equally shares responsibilities. She is all around truly lovely

Guy 2's wife transformed into a complete nagging warthog and is as unpleasant on the inside as she is on the outside

Guy 1 let out a long sigh and says to Guy 2, "well bro, you just gotta love em for who they are."

kinda like a very handsome guy telling an ugly guy to "just be more confident"

little slice · Apr 10, 2017

Fit2Serve said:
LS knows how i feel about this and imo he is spot on with this comment
my wife literally gets pissy and wants to skip subject when i start to tell her i am gonna do a diet and get in shape.... i can hear her getting fatter lol. i love her but whew.... she used to buy medium nighties etc now is buying large. thats like 3-4 sizes bigger in a womans world lol. yikes.
it wont stop either. gonna get worse and worse.... i never fucked a fat chic before.... bet i get to soon
(that all prob sounded a lil harsh, i love her but man we all lose cuz her weight gain. she doesnt wanna have sex, wont wear sexy clothes or lingerie... gets jelous of me being in shape, insecure and worries i am looking at other women.... which of course i am LOL
such a downward spiral weight gain is....
-F2S

that made me lol..

people always say that men die sooner than their wives..

it's because they want to

get it in ya · Apr 10, 2017

you guys can have the kids! I will give them high five and give them a twenty dollar bill, then go home and take my nap lol. I would never think about bringing a kid into this world, no way!! I could give a million reasons but I wont win this because I know having children is the greatest experience, that's what everyone says, now stop lying

I will steal tenny's line again- I will sleep good tonight

Feeshoils · Apr 10, 2017

little slice said:
they relentlessly hen peck you into changing the fundamental aspects of who you are

then leave you for "not being the man she fell in love with".

it was just a shit test, and you passed by not acquiescing

LOL's hard at "Relentlessly hen peck you into into changing the fundamental aspects of who you are"

Being 21 at the time, I experienced this first hand in the midst of comp prep.
When we first met, she knew i had plans to compete and she loved the idea... that's the problem... they like the idea of doing a show, more than the actual process of doing a contest prep.

Start of the contest prep, partner loved the fact i was going to compete again. Thought it was amazing that i could study full time, work full time and still prep for a show and she was excited to see the process and see my progress.

When she found out PEDs were involved, she changed the game up, said i don't need them and she doesn't want me taking anything (yet she could take recreational drugs and that was fine to her), all the emotional blackmail was laid down on her behalf.

As the weeks went on, the prep gets harder, uni gets more hectic, tiredness sets in and fatigue takes hold. But the physique transforms, she suddenly didn't like the idea of me competing.

She resisted the process and the whole situation became a nightmare, tried to talk me out of competing, take the semester off uni and drop down to part time work...... Nope, not happening.

Long story short, borderline mental breakdown, 5 weeks out we separated.

Stuck to my guns and pushed on, won both state titles and 2nd at nationals, kicked ass at uni and got a promotion at work... None of which would have happened if i was easily manipulated and bent over to the insatiable needs of a female. :star-w:rs

little slice · Apr 10, 2017

Feeshoils said:
LOL's hard at "Relentlessly hen peck you into into changing the fundamental aspects of who you are"

Being 21 at the time, I experienced this first hand in the midst of comp prep.
When we first met, she knew i had plans to compete and she loved the idea... that's the problem... they like the idea of doing a show, more than the actual process of doing a contest prep.

Start of the contest prep, partner loved the fact i was going to compete again. Thought it was amazing that i could study full time, work full time and still prep for a show and she was excited to see the process and see my progress.

When she found out PEDs were involved, she changed the game up, said i don't need them and she doesn't want me taking anything (yet she could take recreational drugs and that was fine to her), all the emotional blackmail was laid down on her behalf.

As the weeks went on, the prep gets harder, uni gets more hectic, tiredness sets in and fatigue takes hold. But the physique transforms, she suddenly didn't like the idea of me competing.

She resisted the process and the whole situation became a nightmare, tried to talk me out of competing, take the semester off uni and drop down to part time work...... Nope, not happening.

Long story short, borderline mental breakdown, 5 weeks out we separated.

Stuck to my guns and pushed on, won both state titles and 2nd at nationals, kicked ass at uni and got a promotion at work... None of which would have happened if i was easily manipulated and bent over to the insatiable needs of a female. :star-w:rs

that's not quite what I was getting at..

essentially, a woman will try to change you, to see if she CAN. she is testing you, to help her discern whether or not you are a viable mate.

if she can change you from a strong, muscled young man with passion and a vision... into a doughy piece of furniture, you will have shown her that you are not suitable.

the goal of course, is to recognize this, and not acquiesce.

what you experienced sounds more like the girl getting increasingly insecure as you got shredded and tan. women typically want to be the 'attractive' one in relationships, so they have options, and you don't.

the hen pecking got even more severe as you got leaner and leaner... I bet you were getting more and more attention from the other ladies, which made her feel threatened - as you were not married to her, and could therefore leave her easily.

some women will up their game when they feel insecure - they will eat better, work out, and just overall put more effort into their appearance.

or, they will try to nag you into being less.

the problem is, married women don't feel threatened by other women, because they have the full power of the state behind them. they have no reason to up their game, and consequently, rarely do.

jeetsun7 · Apr 10, 2017

Feeshoils said:
LOL's hard at "Relentlessly hen peck you into into changing the fundamental aspects of who you are"

Being 21 at the time, I experienced this first hand in the midst of comp prep.
When we first met, she knew i had plans to compete and she loved the idea... that's the problem... they like the idea of doing a show, more than the actual process of doing a contest prep.

Start of the contest prep, partner loved the fact i was going to compete again. Thought it was amazing that i could study full time, work full time and still prep for a show and she was excited to see the process and see my progress.

When she found out PEDs were involved, she changed the game up, said i don't need them and she doesn't want me taking anything (yet she could take recreational drugs and that was fine to her), all the emotional blackmail was laid down on her behalf.

As the weeks went on, the prep gets harder, uni gets more hectic, tiredness sets in and fatigue takes hold. But the physique transforms, she suddenly didn't like the idea of me competing.

She resisted the process and the whole situation became a nightmare, tried to talk me out of competing, take the semester off uni and drop down to part time work...... Nope, not happening.

Long story short, borderline mental breakdown, 5 weeks out we separated.

Stuck to my guns and pushed on, won both state titles and 2nd at nationals, kicked ass at uni and got a promotion at work... None of which would have happened if i was easily manipulated and bent over to the insatiable needs of a female. :star-w:rs

Good for you! The inherent problem here was that she wasn't fully into you creating success in your life through your plans. She got insecure and jealous and did not fully support you because it was threatening to her. Fuck her.

Ashop · Apr 10, 2017

Most all my close lady friends over the years are into fitness in one way or another.

Feeshoils · Apr 11, 2017

little slice said:
that's not quite what I was getting at..

essentially, a woman will try to change you, to see if she CAN. she is testing you, to help her discern whether or not you are a viable mate.

if she can change you from a strong, muscled young man with passion and a vision... into a doughy piece of furniture, you will have shown her that you are not suitable.

the goal of course, is to recognize this, and not acquiesce.

what you experienced sounds more like the girl getting increasingly insecure as you got shredded and tan. women typically want to be the 'attractive' one in relationships, so they have options, and you don't.

the hen pecking got even more severe as you got leaner and leaner... I bet you were getting more and more attention from the other ladies, which made her feel threatened - as you were not married to her, and could therefore leave her easily.

some women will up their game when they feel insecure - they will eat better, work out, and just overall put more effort into their appearance.

or, they will try to nag you into being less.

the problem is, married women don't feel threatened by other women, because they have the full power of the state behind them. they have no reason to up their game, and consequently, rarely do.

I realized that i got somewhat side tracked in my story there..

When i was younger, i made the mistake of being easily molded by my gf at the time and it turned me into a pussy, thinking that was what i needed to do for the sake of keeping her happy. Looking back at it now i realize that i was young and stupid for doing that, all lessons learned though.

I recognized (via remembering previous experiences and telltale signs) the "shit tests" of my ex trying to see if she can change me into a loser, starting very early on. Despite her efforts to shape me into the demotivated, skinny fat, unemployed loser that resembled every ex partner she had, she failed dismally at every attempt.

Its very true what you've said in many of your posts LS, and you've said many things which I've heard others say in regards to females and their stupid games. I've seen many Men, both married or not feel that they should train less, socialize less or simply be less for the sake of not making their partner upset or to prevent drama.

Fuck that, might as well just hand your balls over while you at it. There's 2 girls in that relationship.

SRhealth-Rachel · Apr 11, 2017

Feeshoils said:
I realized that i got somewhat side tracked in my story there..

When i was younger, i made the mistake of being easily molded by my gf at the time and it turned me into a pussy, thinking that was what i needed to do for the sake of keeping her happy. Looking back at it now i realize that i was young and stupid for doing that, all lessons learned though.

I recognized (via remembering previous experiences and telltale signs) the "shit tests" of my ex trying to see if she can change me into a loser, starting very early on. Despite her efforts to shape me into the demotivated, skinny fat, unemployed loser that resembled every ex partner she had, she failed dismally at every attempt.

Its very true what you've said in many of your posts LS, and you've said many things which I've heard others say in regards to females and their stupid games. I've seen many Men, both married or not feel that they should train less, socialize less or simply be less for the sake of not making their partner upset or to prevent drama.

Fuck that, might as well just hand your balls over while you at it. There's 2 girls in that relationship.

The most appropriate and delightful relationship should let you both more motivative and become better:lightbulb: