Do you still deadlift?

[gauge22-v2]

It's not as good for hypertrophy, but do any of us train solely to get bigger muscles? No, it's also fun and just an expressive activity. And for this purpose, I think deadlifts are excellent. I'm totally down with what you're saying here; it's worth doing for the manliness factor and for the enjoyment of training even if it's suboptimal for hypetrophy.

On a related note, my friend who's a client of Luki's before he was bodybuilding he worked with Pete Rubish for powerlifting coaching. Pete is fairly aggressive with PEDS, 1g test, 300 tren ace, 300 npp and this was a cycle he progressed to within 6 months of starting steroids. His deadlift went from 220 to 250 in one year doing dedicated powerlifting training. There was no nutrition as part of Pete's program. The next year working with Luki, he lowered his PEDs, focused on diet, and trained like a bodybuilder. He still had a lot of pchain work in the form of ham curls, SLDLs, barbell rows, and hip thrusts. His deadlift went from 250 to 290 in the same time period and he just missed 300. Bodyweight was around the same for both deadlift attempts. The relatively better deadlift progress despite not training the lift was from better nutrition and from walking around with less fatigue while still training the muscles involved in the deadlift hard.

I hope to hell that those weights are in KGs

 

[gauge22-v2]

Regarding deads (SLDLS) for hammies:

Do you do these first? Or do you do them after leg curls of some sort?

 

[scmtnboy]

Regarding deads (SLDLS) for hammies:

Do you do these first? Or do you do them after leg curls of some sort?

I do them first generally because even after I max out the seated cybex curl machine for around 15 reps. Also I’m training with my kid and I want him to hit as high numbers on the biggest lift of the day.

 

[3BILLS]

I do them first generally because even after I max out the seated cybex curl machine for around 15 reps. Also I’m training with my kid and I want him to hit as high numbers on the biggest lift of the day.

Whata dad

 

[bjjgear]

RDL or SLDL only for me

 

[Siggy]

I'm deadlifting still at 8 weeks out lol. I'm 186lb and hitting 420 for a topset of 4-6 with a 8-12rep 80% back off. My eccentrics are controlled and I go for a soft tap and go.

I believe that the taps were the main factor that ruptured my disc. Careful.

If I could go back I would just lift the weight then immediately drop it. No taps, no controlled descent.

 

[Flex500]

Snatch grip deads really are awesome. I do feel them big time in hams but man it crushed upper back. Thanks for whoever recommended those I totally forgot about them.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Yep. Rarely. Maybe 7-8 times in the last 10 years. After I had my distal biceps reattached I pretty much stopped doing dead’s. I double overhanded 685 for 3 a few nights ago not too bad for never doing them I guess.

 

[d4ve]

Regarding deads (SLDLS) for hammies:

Do you do these first? Or do you do them after leg curls of some sort?

My glutes and hams made big strides even during a prep when I added a posterior leg day and did SLDL second to last. Full workout was typically

• Lying leg curl: pyramid 20-15-12-10-8 final set double drop with partials
• Seated leg curl: pyramid to rest-pause set
• 45 deg. Back (glute) raise: work up to a big set against bands + holding a DB, usually double or triple drop ending with just body weight
• SLDL, “quiet” style (control eccentric enough to where the weight barely makes a sound) - top 6-10, backoff 8-12
• Hammer hip press: pyramid to 15-20 bilateral, then alternating 5x5 cluster unilateral

I’ve stopped doing heavy pulls right now, but for growing glutes on this day, they were productive.

Here’s a video from 3.5 weeks out of last years nationals prep. DL variations are the one thing that feels better when this light and lean. Start position is perfect with a smaller midsection.

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[danieltx]

If y'all think @d4ve's deadlifts are impressive you should see his wife's!

 

[d4ve]

If y'all think @d4ve's deadlifts are impressive you should see his wife's!

AGREED. Here’s a set she did last winter, this was around the start of her Chicago Pro prep (which she won).

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[TomJ]

Regarding deads (SLDLS) for hammies:

Do you do these first? Or do you do them after leg curls of some sort?

I currently have them after my other hamstring work.

The reason for this is, if i have them earlier, i have to load up too much weight to meaningfully feel it in my hamstrings when they are fresh which severly taxes my lower back taking a lot of gas out of the tank for the rest of my session.

Ive found putting it at the end, prefatigued, im able to meaningfully load my hamstrings and take sets to failure with much lower relative loads.

 

[Siggy]

I currently have them after my other hamstring work.

The reason for this is, if i have them earlier, i have to load up too much weight to meaningfully feel it in my hamstrings when they are fresh which severly taxes my lower back taking a lot of gas out of the tank for the rest of my session.

Ive found putting it at the end, prefatigued, im able to meaningfully load my hamstrings and take sets to failure with much lower relative loads.

Have you tried smith machine RDL for hamstrings?

 

[TomJ]

Have you tried smith machine RDL for hamstrings?

I have but my gym has a pretty shitty smith and im not a big fan of it for rdls

 

[Sectør]

Like others have stated I only do RDLs and SDLs.

My highest conventional pull is 625x3 (belt and straps) which isn't really impressive by many standards, but I haven't pulled conventional since I had a spinal fusion. Not worth risking injury, plus I find it extremely taxing on the Central nervous system when there's other exercises that are better for hypertrophy for specific, targeted muscle groups.

I rotate between quad and hamstring focused legdays every other leg day.

I still hit quads and hams both days, but one of the days I'll start with hamstrings and RDLs into lying leg curls, and the other day I'll start with quad movements like pre-exhausting the quads with leg extensions into variations of leg press, or sometimes ill just start with leg press into leg extensions, depending on whats available, how my knees are feeling, and then i'll transition to variations of leg curls. I don't Deadlift on my quad focused days, only the hamstring focused days.

I found heavy RDLS twice a week was really taxing on the CNS and made recovery a lot more difficult, and took away intensity from my workout the following day, so i stick to 1x a week now

 

[Sectør]

AGREED. Here’s a set she did last winter, this was around the start of her Chicago Pro prep (which she won).

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thats damn impressive. Holy F

 

[copypastemuscle]

I believe that the taps were the main factor that ruptured my disc. Careful.

If I could go back I would just lift the weight then immediately drop it. No taps, no controlled descent.

My coach is a physio so I'm sure I'll be ok lol

 

[traininsane11]

I managed to get my deadlift up to 350kg/770lbs (unintentionally stiff legged) when I was doing powerlifting but stopped then when I decided to do bodybuilding

However tempted to add them back in again because they’re fun and I wonder if fun might sometimes outweigh “optimal”

 

[madg]

I like deadlift but never did them

I think is one of the reasons my waist so small

I do RDL though for hams i love it

 

[3BILLS]

Yep. Rarely. Maybe 7-8 times in the last 10 years. After I had my distal biceps reattached I pretty much stopped doing dead’s. I double overhanded 685 for 3 a few nights ago not too bad for never doing them I guess.

Free weight reg deads with 685 ? 7 plates a side