Do you use orals year round?

[Mufasa123]

Long story short, I thought I had hemachromatosis due to high ferritin on bloodwork (turns out that high ferritin was caused by a bad shot).

No idea how long ago (access wasn't nearly as good as today) but how were bloods and liver enzymes? Did cysts form separately from any increase in liver enzymes?

 

[Chipper Jones78]

Long story short, I thought I had hemachromatosis due to high ferritin on bloodwork (turns out that high ferritin was caused by a bad shot).

Darn brother - sorry to hear this bad luck.

Next steps? What happens now?

 

[bbxtreme]

Long story short, I thought I had hemachromatosis due to high ferritin on bloodwork (turns out that high ferritin was caused by a bad shot).

This was just in the last two years right? I really thought everyone here knew as you’ve shared all of this in detail on here. Except a pic of that wicked scar- seeing that makes me glad I only use superdrol one week a year now.

 

[slesh]

Long story short, I thought I had hemachromatosis due to high ferritin on bloodwork (turns out that high ferritin was caused by a bad shot).

Man that’s wild that you actually went in for something else. Thank god you did but wow.

 

[slesh]

This was just in the last two years right? I really thought everyone here knew as you’ve shared all of this in detail on here. Except a pic of that wicked scar- seeing that makes me glad I only use superdrol one week a year now.

I knew about the adenomas but I had forgotten the genesis of why/how he discovered them…

 

[qbkilla]

I know there was a thread a while back about taking them only pre workout then not taking them on off days. Anyone have thoughts in if this would be effective /healthier than daily for a shorter period?

Instead of drol ed for 4 weeks, say eod for 8 weeks...assuming the person lifts eod

 

[bbxtreme]

I know there was a thread a while back about taking them only pre workout then not taking them on off days. Anyone have thoughts in if this would be effective /healthier than daily for a shorter period?

Instead of drol ed for 4 weeks, say eod for 8 weeks...assuming the person lifts eod

I would say cut your dosage in half and use them pre workout only. This is my strategy when I use them outside of a contest prep 10 weeks out.

It’s maybe 25mg of anadrol pre workout for 6 weeks. I can’t say I really miss using any more than that. I’d rather push injectables higher and maintain my GI system.

 

[aHarness]

I know there was a thread a while back about taking them only pre workout then not taking them on off days. Anyone have thoughts in if this would be effective /healthier than daily for a shorter period?

Instead of drol ed for 4 weeks, say eod for 8 weeks...assuming the person lifts eod

Well, are you halfing the total mg in this example or no?

 

[qbkilla]

Well, are you halfing the total mg in this example or no?

I only did it personally for a brief period but I didn't. Just rather than 50 drol Ed, 50 (eod) on workout days. So basically half the MG on a weekly basis. I guess another approach could be to both half the dose and do eod, probably better for health but that'd be a pretty low total weekly dosage

 

[control]

I would say cut your dosage in half and use them pre workout only. This is my strategy when I use them outside of a contest prep 10 weeks out.

It’s maybe 25mg of anadrol pre workout for 6 weeks. I can’t say I really miss using any more than that. I’d rather push injectables higher and maintain my GI system.

How many hours before your workout do you take anadrol?

 

[Fleezy]

No idea how long ago (access wasn't nearly as good as today) but how were bloods and liver enzymes? Did cysts form separately from any increase in liver enzymes?

bloods were fine. liver enzymes were elevated, but they had always been. liver blood work will not detect adenomas.. only imaging will

Darn brother - sorry to hear this bad luck.

Next steps? What happens now?

nothing happens now.. just no more orals or tren.

plenty of test and eq tho

i wouldnt call it bad luck per se.. you are risking developing these tumors whenever you use oral steroids... and possibly tren.

but definitely orals.

it's like a jack-in-the-box tbh.. seems like you will develop them eventually the more times you roll the dice

This was just in the last two years right? I really thought everyone here knew as you’ve shared all of this in detail on here. Except a pic of that wicked scar- seeing that makes me glad I only use superdrol one week a year now.

last march.

no point in using orals at all really IMO.. go crazy with as much test as you can handle.. but tren and especially orals? not worth the risk IMO

Man that’s wild that you actually went in for something else. Thank god you did but wow.

yep. the lord works in mysterious ways

 

[anarchocapitalist]

Apparently 1 in 10 people who smoke will die from lung cancer. Steroids are the same. Some people can abuse it and walk away. Some people can't.

 

[TheReverendMR]

I know there was a thread a while back about taking them only pre workout then not taking them on off days. Anyone have thoughts in if this would be effective /healthier than daily for a shorter period?

Instead of drol ed for 4 weeks, say eod for 8 weeks...assuming the person lifts eod

I don’t know with regards to health, but this is pretty common amongst powerlifters

 

[KillerStack]

Whats the highest dose of Dbol you have used and for how long? I dont believe for one second you did 6 continuous months of DBol with no break at 100 milligrams and came out unscathed. Calling BS on that.

And if you did, you had some bunk ass Dbol.

Lol bunk Dbol. Ok look, I took up to 150mg of Russian Akrihin Dbol for a year straight, were some Naposim in there as well. Went off for a few weeks and went on again, but not quite a year. I'm not a beginner, this was in circa 1997. Then I was a beginner.

I didnt come up with the idea that Anadrol is safe at 100mg for years at a time, there is at least one medical study that shows it.

Can I see the study? It's not like there are masses of Anadrol studies, there are a couple of abstracts and I haven't seen any full papers. Perhaps I'm wrong. Anadrol is not safe per se but I've done a year long cycle of it no problem, I'm not saying it can't be done. The few abstracts I've seen, very, very small scale, had some participants drop out due to too high enzymes iirc. However comparing Dbol and Drol head to head like that, you can't do that, there aren't any such studies. If I were to *guess* I'd guess they're pretty equally toxic and dbol will generally make you feel "healthier" lol.

 

[Siggy]

Lol bunk Dbol. Ok look, I took up to 150mg of Russian Akrihin Dbol for a year straight, were some Naposim in there as well. Went off for a few weeks and went on again, but not quite a year. I'm not a beginner, this was in circa 1997. Then I was a beginner.


Can I see the study? It's not like there are masses of Anadrol studies, there are a couple of abstracts and I haven't seen any full papers. Perhaps I'm wrong. Anadrol is not safe per se but I've done a year long cycle of it no problem, I'm not saying it can't be done. The few abstracts I've seen, very, very small scale, had some participants drop out due to too high enzymes iirc. However comparing Dbol and Drol head to head like that, you can't do that, there aren't any such studies. If I were to *guess* I'd guess they're pretty equally toxic and dbol will generally make you feel "healthier" lol.

The idea that Anadrol is less toxic than Dbol becomes reasonable when we see the many anecdotal reports on this board of people who have taken 100 mg of anadrol for several months at a time, one or two saying its been many years straight.

Theres also the Anadrol medical study which I can not find. It was posted on this website within the last year, maybe the person who posted it can link it again. It was a pediatric study, the peds had taken 100mg for either one or two years straigh, I cant remember.

Before this conversation, in over a decade of researching steroids I had never heard anything remotely like someone taking 150mg of Dbol for a year street with nothing but a two week break.

I haven’t even heard or read of anyone taking anything close to 100mg for 6 months straight. The medical study with the largest DBol dose I have ever seen is linked below, they gave 11 men 100mg of Dbol for 6 weeks.

I have heard of people taking 100mg of DBol alternating one month on and off, or maybe 50mg for 4 months straight, but that’s it. Im sure there are many people that have taken larger and or longer doses who understandably didn’t advertise their liver failure or liver tumors.

Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training - PubMed

1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[TheReverendMR]

Lol bunk Dbol. Ok look, I took up to 150mg of Russian Akrihin Dbol for a year straight, were some Naposim in there as well. Went off for a few weeks and went on again, but not quite a year. I'm not a beginner, this was in circa 1997. Then I was a beginner.


Can I see the study? It's not like there are masses of Anadrol studies, there are a couple of abstracts and I haven't seen any full papers. Perhaps I'm wrong. Anadrol is not safe per se but I've done a year long cycle of it no problem, I'm not saying it can't be done. The few abstracts I've seen, very, very small scale, had some participants drop out due to too high enzymes iirc. However comparing Dbol and Drol head to head like that, you can't do that, there aren't any such studies. If I were to *guess* I'd guess they're pretty equally toxic and dbol will generally make you feel "healthier" lol.

Holy shit dude. Never heard or read anything remotely close to that. Ever. That’s wild

 

[Siggy]

Lol bunk Dbol. Ok look, I took up to 150mg of Russian Akrihin Dbol for a year straight, were some Naposim in there as well. Went off for a few weeks and went on again, but not quite a year. I'm not a beginner, this was in circa 1997. Then I was a beginner.


Can I see the study? It's not like there are masses of Anadrol studies, there are a couple of abstracts and I haven't seen any full papers. Perhaps I'm wrong. Anadrol is not safe per se but I've done a year long cycle of it no problem, I'm not saying it can't be done. The few abstracts I've seen, very, very small scale, had some participants drop out due to too high enzymes iirc. However comparing Dbol and Drol head to head like that, you can't do that, there aren't any such studies. If I were to *guess* I'd guess they're pretty equally toxic and dbol will generally make you feel "healthier" lol.

Still cant find the 1 year study, but here is a 6 month 100mg Anadrol study. Pretty good thread linked below too.

Effect of Oral Anabolic Steroid on Muscle Strength and Muscle Growth in Hemodialysis Patients - PMC

Sarcopenia is common in hemodialysis patients. This study examined whether the anabolic steroid oxymetholone improves muscle mass and handgrip strength in hemodialysis patients and possible mechanisms that might engender such changes. Forty-three ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is Anadrol toxicity overblown and a myth?

One of the studies, 24 weeks on Anadrol! Looks like it is a safe compound and all the bro lore about its toxicity, liver cysts, jaundice are overblown https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3562853/ Who here likes Anadrol and runs it for many weeks? Do you agree?

www.professionalmuscle.com

 

[aHarness]

I only did it personally for a brief period but I didn't. Just rather than 50 drol Ed, 50 (eod) on workout days. So basically half the MG on a weekly basis. I guess another approach could be to both half the dose and do eod, probably better for health but that'd be a pretty low total weekly dosage

So yes, you did half your total mg otherwise.

Well then to answer your initial question, yes taking less drugs total is “healthier” than the opposite.

 

[qbkilla]

So yes, you did half your total mg otherwise.

Well then to answer your initial question, yes taking less drugs total is “healthier” than the opposite.

So insightful as always

 

[Flex500]

bloods were fine. liver enzymes were elevated, but they had always been. liver blood work will not detect adenomas.. only imaging will


nothing happens now.. just no more orals or tren.

plenty of test and eq tho

i wouldnt call it bad luck per se.. you are risking developing these tumors whenever you use oral steroids... and possibly tren.

but definitely orals.

it's like a jack-in-the-box tbh.. seems like you will develop them eventually the more times you roll the dice


last march.

no point in using orals at all really IMO.. go crazy with as much test as you can handle.. but tren and especially orals? not worth the risk IMO


yep. the lord works in mysterious ways

Holly crap man I'm glad you are doing well! I had no idea this happened and not sure how I missed it. Glad all is well though and so sorry you had to go through that.