Do you use orals year round?

[madg]

I wish it could be done, because i love oral winstrol. It never bothers me on liver enzymes (i take UDCA with it), but lipids take a huge dip. I don't get other sides from winny but i think if you run it year round you'll eventually get serious side effects.
On a side note, if liver enzymes are in range it doesn't mean that you eventually wont develop a liver adenoma.

my fave oral by far too

I loved using it younger

Insane stack with deca for mass or tren for shred

Winny ftw

 

[Freedom69]

I stick to orals only on a prep . Winny or Anavar to be specific . Used to love my dbol and anadrol back in the day . Nothing has gave me that massive strength as dbol or anadrol

 

[Siggy]

I stick to orals only on a prep . Winny or Anavar to be specific . Used to love my dbol and anadrol back in the day . Nothing has gave me that massive strength as dbol or anadrol

Mkay

 

[AllLoadedUp]

10 mg superdrol for 30 days is pretty ideal. That's what I focus on if I choose to use the oral of it. A lot more manageable at that dose and length. Can do some interesting stuff for to your muscles on just 10 mg's (fuller/harder/pumps).

Yeh you get that really tight feeling in your muscles. I love that but it can be annoying sometimes. Makes stretching more of a bitch.

 

[totalrecomp]

Your all grown men so do as you please, it just seems to me the goal should be to get the most amount of muscle with the least amount of stress possible.

Well all the young guys at the gym told me they stress less about hiding tablets at home vs inj's, AND they all had pretty sick biceps veins and really filled out their gym shark shirts, so.........tough call.........hmmmm



Joking aside I was HYPER concerned with legality, still am, and back in 2000 there was not the legal options available to a 17-18 year old guy, via "HRT" clinics so I mainly used orals like M1T, 1AD, 4-diol, SD, Halodrol, and the like. I would run 4-6 week cycles(longer with non-17AA) with equal time off. Would I have made better progress with proper inj cycles? Of course. Was I further along that I would have been otherwise? Absolutely. Do I have, at 42, any major health/organ issues? Nope. Would I recommend? Nope.

For 99% of folks on here, with essentially unlimited access to top quality "options" I don't see the benefit of year round use orals vs cycling them in and out at certain times for certain purposes.

 

[PRorER]

I was taught that orals are more harmful than 90% of injectables. Do I still believe this? Yes and no. I haven’t had any blood markers thrown off but most orals affect my digestion. DAO and an anti-histamine make a huge difference tho along with your typical NAC, milk thistle, etc.

I don’t see the point in running an oral year round, maybe A-drol for strength purposes, maybe if you compete and have a handful of shows throughout the year. Definitely safer options but if you can tolerate it for that long AND have little affect on blood markers, good for you

 

[KillerStack]

One advantage of high dose orals, which very few here will agree with, is that you can take a really toxic/insane dose one day and by next morning you are almost at baseline again, iow it doesn't just build up in your system daily as you keep hammering high doses. I don't know about you guys but often at some point I start to feel toxic and bogged down, "overloaded" when doing "grams" and then you have to wait weeks to come down. For this reason orals made me feel "better,"... if it wasn't for the goddamn horrible heartburn that often develops later for a lot of guys. JMHO lol.

 

[Battousai]

Only thing thing I cycle on and off frequently is anavar, but still, not taking it all year round.

 

[Jerry5000]

I think this is common sense, if you do it year round, how many years are we talking about? Most likely it's doing damage that you will pay for later on. Right now I am at the point of "later" after 10+ years of being on, (not orals) and there are some issues I have that aren't good. Everything comes with a price, a negative. Was it worth it? no not really. If I was going to do year round orals then blood work would have to be a regular thing along with a Livcare supplement and NAC.

 

[gains4000]

Lol do not listen to this retard and run orals year round

Just because you feel okay doesn’t mean your insides aren’t melting ‍

 

[Cerberus777]

Ill do 8 weeks on 8 weeks off pre workout only 3-4 days a week low doses (25mg var, 50tbol a little halo something to help with drive). Then if im going to be some where I want to look my best i might do a week or 2.

 

[Tank4411]

I do 50 mgs anadrol pre workout on lagging body parts or parts I want bigger…basically 3-4 days a week. Ran it like this for four weeks, then the next four weeks ran it at 100 mgs blood work came back and liver enzymes were elevated but I want to say around ast and alt were in the 70-80 range…. Hopped off for four weeks… retested….ast and alt were 31 and 40…

 

[Sectør]

Lol do not listen to this retard and run orals year round

Just because you feel okay doesn’t mean your insides aren’t melting ‍

Wish you a speedy recovery man. Hindsight is always 20/20

I trust you’ll approach future cycles (or trt) with a more health oriented approach. Did they say what your ejection fraction % is at by chance? Also, what did they say about your liver?

It’s none of my business and you can tell me to fuck off, just curious what observations they’ve had since I’d imagine they’ve run pretty extensive bloodwork on you in the hospital.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

"I feel fine, so I'll just take orals year round..."

Next thread:

"I can't figure out why I have this terrible acid reflux all the time?!"

 

[bbxtreme]

Lol do not listen to this retard and run orals year round

Just because you feel okay doesn’t mean your insides aren’t melting ‍

But really though. I try to drive this point in here all the time and I really just think it glazes over people.

Wishing you a speedy recovery man.

 

[Mute]

"I feel fine, so I'll just take orals year round..."

Next thread:

"I can't figure out why I have this terrible acid reflux all the time?!"

I snorted while laughing reading this

 

[gains4000]

But really though. I try to drive this point in here all the time and I really just think it glazes over people.

Wishing you a speedy recovery man.

Wish you a speedy recovery man. Hindsight is always 20/20

I trust you’ll approach future cycles (or trt) with a more health oriented approach. Did they say what your ejection fraction % is at by chance? Also, what did they say about your liver?

It’s none of my business and you can tell me to fuck off, just curious what observations they’ve had since I’d imagine they’ve run pretty extensive bloodwork on you in the hospital.

You guys are awesome, thank you. I’ll update everyone.

I always told myself “if I feel good then I don’t care how much drugs I use”.

That ends up backfiring x 100 once the accumulated effects hit at once.

 

[Mufasa123]

That ends up backfiring x 100 once the accumulated effects hit at once.

This right here all day. "Accumulated effects" and the equivalent to not moderation but "excess" in many walks of life. Keep hammering the body and you are writing a check that may eventually get cashed.

Do something unhealthy for long enough...the body will become unhealthy.

Also, best wishes for a smooth and speedy recover. Not sure I saw the exact nature of the issue but I like to think we look out for each other as best we can.

 

[Elvis755]

I use orals as infrequently as possible. They’re a good tool when performance drops at the end of prep and cosmetically to create a look. The strain on my organs, GI and appetite makes me avoid any other time. I don’t see them as a great tool for adding actual muscle long term.

 

[pickapeck]

Maybe this is misplaced but most of us would be able to cruise on a TRT (top 1/3 - 1/4 of normal range (300 - 1200ng/dL) dose and hold for 3-4 months no problem and get healthy. This year around shit with orals is never a good idea especially at today's doses.